SYNTHESIZING PSILOCYBIN
Dr. Dave explains how to make the active ingredient in magic mushrooms.
Tue, Oct 10, 2006 1:27 pm
FROM DR. DAVE'S EMAIL
Although psilocybin is a relatively simple molecule in the world of organic chemistry, it has a couple of features that make it problematic to synthesize. The starting material must be an indole molecule substituted with an oxygen atom at the 4-position. That is the place that will ultimately become the phosphate ester portion of psilocybin. Indole with an oxygen atom at the 4-position is either very costly, or above average in difficulty to make yourself.
Construction of the basic framework of the molecule proceeds in a fairly standard manner once you have the necessary indole in hand. Psilocybin is essentially N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) with a phosphate ester attached at the indole 4-position. Thus, the synthesis is very much like that for making DMT. The product at this stage is DMT with some sort of protected oxygen atom located at the 4-position. We used what is called a benzyl group to protect the oxygen atom. You need to protect it in order to prevent it from participating in the chemistry until it is time for it to be involved at the very end, so to speak.
At the second to last step, you "unmask" the oxygen atom, which leaves a hydrogen attached to the oxygen to provide an OH function, called a hydroxy group.
The most substantial problem occurs when introducing the phosphate ester into the molecule. You must attach the phosphate to the OH group on the indole ring. In Albert Hofmann's original synthesis, he used a reagent to do that which is not available commercially. But unfortunately the reagent itself is unstable, and if you purify it and concentrate it, it can actually explode. Furthermore, the yield, or amount of product you get from that reagent is very low. When you have invested money and effort into making a molecule, you hate to lose most of it at the very end of the process.
Naturally, we did not wish to use that reagent, both for safety and for economic reasons, nor did we imagine that any future manufacturer of psilocybin for medical purposes would wish to use it either. My technician set about examining a large number of methods for attaching phosphate groups to similar OH groups. Finally, we decided to use a material called tetrabenzylpyrophosphate. You can purchase it, but we needed more than we could afford, and so made our own. Importantly, it is a stable white crystalline compound. It allows you to attach a phosphate to the OH, with the phosphate "protected" with two benzyl groups, so the product you obtain is psilocybin, but with two benzyl groups attached to the phosphate oxygen atoms. These benzyl groups come off very easily at the very last step.
So, we used that reagent to attach the dibenzylphosphate to the OH on the DMT skeleton. The chemistry is sensitive here, as you must use a powerful reagent called butyl lithium and keep the reaction cooled to -78 degrees, but we were able to attach the dibenzylphosphate group to the 4-OH group.
In Hofmann's original synthesis of psilocybin, after he put on the dibenzylphosphate group, something happened that even he wasn't aware of. It turns out that because the tryptamine side chain is so cramped for space, so to speak, that it attacks one of the benzyl groups on the phosphate, and a benzyl group moves onto the DMT side chain nitrogen. Because it has the same molecular weight, you can't tell it happened if you analyze the elemental composition, which is what Hofmann did. But the dibenzyl phosphate is a thick liquid, whereas after one of the benzyl groups moves from the phosphate oxygen to the side chain nitrogen, it is a crystalline solid. And that is exactly what Hofmann isolated in his original synthesis.
The same thing happened to us. Unfortunately, we thought that the amine side chain was catalyzing the removal of one of the benzyls by a water molecule, and optimized our synthesis to prevent that from occurring. After we published our work, a Japanese group using our method for putting on the phosphate group got the same crystalline compound. When they looked more closely, they realized the benzyl was just moving over to the side chain nitrogen. They just let the final product stand in solution, so that one of the benzyl groups would completely leave the phosphate and move to the side chain. They crystallized that product, and then removed both benzyl groups: the one remaining on the phosphate oxygen atom, and the one on the side chain amino group.
One new thing we did was to crystallize psilocybin from boiling water. At first it seems counterintuitive, because the conventional wisdom is that psilocybin is very sensitive, but in fact psilocybin is a very stable molecule. We initially were very careful not to heat solutions of psilocybin up, but after several experiments we realized that the molecule is very robust, and ended up obtaining the purest material by recrystallizing it from boiling water to obtain nice white needles.







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josephs coat
Jun 3 2008, 12:37 am
dont be down.... be up, up, and away:)
he will bring happiness in the pipe, he'll a ride away on his silver bike, and a part from that he'll be so kind in concenting to blow your mind. fly jefferson airplane it'll get you there on time
also. open your mind. no judgements on anything. no thoughts. observe the observer.... where am i, what am i, who am i, when am , why am i
yo.
Mar 16 2008, 10:11 pm
tallpaul
Jan 20 2008, 5:43 pm
the bay area
Jan 12 2008, 2:05 am
Amsterdam Tour reminders
Dec 30 2007, 6:18 pm
Mushroom Times
Dec 30 2007, 6:07 pm
__no__one__here
Dec 28 2007, 1:29 am
A Peice of Peace.
Dec 20 2007, 9:14 am
that
Dec 11 2007, 1:20 pm
Mack
Nov 30 2007, 10:49 pm
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Nov 12 2007, 9:42 pm
WhoCares
Nov 8 2007, 5:39 pm
ninja
Oct 31 2007, 3:05 pm
ninja
Oct 31 2007, 3:02 pm
ninja
Oct 31 2007, 3:00 pm
ninja
Oct 31 2007, 2:58 pm
but can u get 5 differnt kinds?? and its bad ass to know that u can purify psilocybin
4:20
Oct 18 2007, 6:30 pm
a friend with weed is a
Oct 8 2007, 3:59 am
and the rest of you for payng up the ass for mushies
i get 5 for 1/8 oz. for25 dollars ahahahahahahah
I LOVE BC!!!
a friend with weed is a friend indeed!!!!
funkapotamus420
Sep 13 2007, 2:23 pm
fuck you all
Sep 11 2007, 7:38 pm
Jimson Weed
Sep 10 2007, 2:29 pm
Big Country
Aug 25 2007, 10:40 pm
Martyr
Aug 11 2007, 2:16 pm
AUStin TX for life
Jul 12 2007, 9:48 pm
AUStin TX for life.
Jul 12 2007, 9:44 pm
Pimp Z Da TexaN
Jun 28 2007, 8:58 am
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bigE
May 10 2007, 10:37 pm
toke n tx420
Apr 18 2007, 8:59 pm
lsd is good but i find that it dosent leave the boddy in a clean way it can take days months even years for all of the effects to leave your body. ie yoll be seeing traces for a while
L
Apr 15 2007, 9:11 pm
Scientist
Apr 14 2007, 11:36 am
Scientist
Apr 14 2007, 11:34 am
The Green Man
Apr 14 2007, 3:21 am
You have a PHD in chemistry yet you spell like you're a 14 year-old kid who learned English from internet chatrooms?
I think you're full of shit.
"...keep your useless opinions to yourself.this will be my last look at one of these sites."
Once again, I think you're just a 14 year-old troll who's going to keep coming back to see if anyone actually responded to you.
And so, here I am doing just that... to prove my point.
phd chemistry
Mar 31 2007, 7:44 am
Oppie
Mar 11 2007, 7:36 pm
spencevail
Mar 5 2007, 12:30 am
doobiedrew
Feb 26 2007, 8:50 am
p.s- you fuck off
ns1488
Feb 26 2007, 12:31 am
buds n bauds
Feb 19 2007, 10:53 pm
FIRST,
LSD can ONLY be naturally found in ergot alkaloids which are found when a certain grain starts to mold... how the fuck could a cactus produce a Lysergic Acid??? IT CAN'T!!!
If you have any psychoactive cacti (ie. peyote/peruvian torch/san pedro) then you are working with MESCALINE and similar phenethylamines...
LSD is a TRYPTAMINE.... NOT a phenethylamine.
KNOW WHAT YOU DIPSHITS PUT INTO YOUR BODY. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE!
PS. FUCK OFF
DaLLa$onThaRI$E52
Feb 19 2007, 9:38 pm
marawanna
Feb 3 2007, 12:07 am
mimosalab
Jan 26 2007, 4:25 am
why are they afraid to say that Dr. Hoffman utilized hydrazine?
the process is clever, please post a picture of the finished psilocybin.
someone come up with a 4-hydroxylation starting with dmt, i'll love you forever.
ya bro
Jan 15 2007, 6:04 pm
SMOKR N CIN SITY
Jan 11 2007, 6:13 pm
SMOKR N CIN SITY
Jan 11 2007, 5:55 pm
try this
Jan 7 2007, 2:26 am
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Jan 5 2007, 4:25 pm
odi-wan
Jan 1 2007, 10:03 pm
odi-wan
Jan 1 2007, 10:01 pm
jus chilin
Dec 26 2006, 3:51 pm
Wink
Dec 20 2006, 7:24 am
Chem dog
Dec 13 2006, 11:06 am
butane is not needed for this extraction. Butane eats PVC pipe, leaving residue in your final product. Butane is highly explosive. Under no cicumstances should anyone try the extraction posted below. You WILL blow up or poison yourselves. For a proper cacti extraction go to www.erowid.com and look that shit up.
Chem dog
Dec 13 2006, 11:02 am
DrYoster
Dec 13 2006, 12:56 am
Nice tread :)
Secondly I could use a little more info on the LSD tech
Why the red light?
What is the average yield of 3 pound of San Pedro because I got about 50 of them @ about 3 feet tall and I got 33 Peruvian torches of about 1 1/2 feet tall!!!
I would like to have a more comprehensive weight as per example “this will produce 1 gram of solution of LSD25 take this 1 gram and divide it in “X” amount to produce “X” amount of hits
I do understand that if you get just a bit of LSD 25 on you skin you will be “LAla gonzo” for a long loong loooonng time!
Next I would be extremely happy to get a tech that could explain to me how to extract the magic from a pound of shroom.I have access to a large amount of moonshine
But I understand that there is a water tech, also with the info it would be nice to get “accuracy” in how much is one dose “Milligram” and what is the approximate weight of one dose! Or 1000 doses and i'll do the hard division of 1000 by 100 and then by 10:)
Thank you in advance
DrYoster
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mr. p
Dec 11 2006, 10:16 pm
You can make LSD
Dec 1 2006, 3:41 pm
equal part vodka, and evap butane from vodka butane mix. mark glass! collect liquid LSD25 and keep cold and in dark place. Will show blue under UV/.
Sunkissedtoo
Nov 21 2006, 8:21 pm
macdaddy
Nov 12 2006, 10:03 pm
lsd guru
Nov 5 2006, 4:40 pm
slowmo chlomo
Nov 4 2006, 9:12 pm
trinity
Nov 2 2006, 12:22 am
nice white needles
Oct 30 2006, 6:08 pm
volkswagon
Oct 29 2006, 1:46 pm
ate805
Oct 26 2006, 7:43 pm
chemdog
Oct 25 2006, 11:31 am
WTF//////
Oct 24 2006, 11:27 pm
OoAhChi
Oct 17 2006, 7:41 pm
Kramit
Oct 13 2006, 4:09 pm
Rofl
Oct 13 2006, 1:34 pm
Mr_Spliff
Oct 10 2006, 5:14 pm
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