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JORGE'S RX: Bubbling Issue

Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:01 pm


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Bubbling Issue
I take issue with an answer you gave recently concerning whether or not to keep a plant’s roots submerged in aerated nutrient solution. Keeping the plant’s roots submerged in aerated solution is not only “technically” possible as you suggest; deep-water-culture systems promote healthy, explosive growth and yields, can cut down on finish times, and are simple to construct and maintain. Perhaps you should do some research and update your “Indoor Bible” rather than dismissing a simple, cutting-edge technique based on such a silly argument. Try a search on overgrow.com for “DWC” or “bubbler” and see for yourself.
DWC
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Dear DWC,
Ask a dozen growers which is the best system to grow the biggest buds the fastest and you get 20 different answers! I went to the site and found an article on the “Bubbler” listed on the main page. The article was easy to read and packed with descriptive, accurate color photos.

The article outlined the basics of building and growing hydroponically in net pots full of Geolite (expanded clay) suspended in 5-gallon buckets. The buckets are filled with nutrient solution to within one inch of the bottom of the net pot. The roots grow from the net pot into the nutrient solution that is aerated with an aquarium air-stone.

Several buckets are attached to a single “controller bucket.” The yield varies between 0.35 and 0.44 grams per watt (per 30 days of flowering), according to the article. This commentary was very interesting and surely good information to all who have interest in growing in this type of system. Not having to bring in more growing medium for each crop and growing just a few plants to avoid severe legal problems make up for the extra noise generated by air-stones and the lower yield.

However, so as not to mislead readers, the “bubbler” system yields sited in the article hardly make one think it is cutting-edge, promotes explosive growth and yields, or can cut down on finish times. A productive grow show yields a minimum of 0.5 GPW per 30 days of flowering. When fondled by a master grower, a very productive garden, planted with a heavy-yielding variety such as “Chemo” from Serious Seeds, can yield up to 1 GPW (“World’s Greatest Grower,” Mar. ’02 HT). Cutting down on harvest time is most often a function of genetics, fertilizer dosage, bright light and restricted root growth. For a picture of a bubbler system in Indoor Marijuana Horticulture, The Indoor Bible, see photo “A” on page 10 of the first color section.


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farmboy

Jun 3 2009, 3:04 pm

can anyone tell me how to save clones with root rot?mucho important to save my genetics.help!!!

B. Bud

Jan 16 2009, 9:36 am

General Hydoponics makes a drip bubbler system that works really good. All you have to watch is PH and PPM its called the waterfarm. They can stand alone or in a system. Very simple.

Doper29

Dec 31 2008, 9:03 pm

You can make one for 50-60 bucks. Get a 20 - 30 gallon storage bin from walmart with 2 aquarium pumps w/ hoses and airstones. Then drill holes for the hoses 1/4 inch fits like a glove and saw out where your pots will go with a power-saw or something. Presto homemade dwc.

BudMan

Dec 29 2008, 7:49 pm

If the website overgrow is under investigation by the the cops and you cant order shit from it, then my next question for any of you guys or gal's out there is how in the hell can i get my hands on the Deep water Culture system or A.K.A Bubbler or the Bubble pots? B/c if i recALL, i remember "Better Grow Hydro" use to sell something like that, but for some reson they don't anymore. So if anyone cAN FIND OUT WHERE TO GET IT HIT ME UP! Chris23231004@yahoo.com

ajblalock

Aug 7 2008, 1:21 pm

Please dont use ezhydrokit.com. After doing satisfactory business with them in the past, they have recently stole my money order and never sent my products, their phone is disconnected, dont answer emails, and their security certificate is no longer valid on their website. Just a warning for all!

Worlock7

Dec 28 2007, 7:33 am

Keeping roots damp is important.If you want wet roots, with water running across them, the Plants love this.

The water must be oxygenated
The water must not be staganet
Add H2O2 to keep down microbial growth.

The growth rate using water culture is fantastic. But it takes some learning to get it right, and a good pH EC meter.

I know this is old but...

Mar 22 2007, 6:44 am

I just switched back to soil because I lost 3 BIG mother plants that I decided to flower. I grew them from seed in bubble jugs with lava rock. All was great until last 2 weeks of flowering. And then Root Rot and near dead at the salvage job I call harvest. It makes no sense. They made it from tiny seedlings all of a sudden to croak?! I flushed and changed the containers once a week. Used reverse osmosis water. {Hauled home 13 gal at a time in jugs.} I tested temp, Ph, fert levels... I had thought maybe it was the sugar I added to the water for the last 2 weeks. But after reading this at least I don't feel like I killed my baby girls. Granny

muni

Jun 13 2006, 7:27 pm

I read that a problem with dwc is that with the advantage of large root production your plants will take in a lot of water, but not necessarily all the nutrients in it, so your concentrations can get rather high and you have to pay attention.

grow jo

May 15 2006, 7:48 pm

jon, i dont suggest using mecury vaopor at all, use metal halide they make converion bulbs for mecury vapor balast.

jon

May 11 2006, 12:41 am

hey jo, could i squeeze a 100watt mercury vapor lamp as a grow or to flower my plant light?

madtown thug

May 6 2006, 1:04 am

hey jo i'm off to smoke some.if you see this hit me up in bud and bondage.damn i never get you when you on line.you in the states dude???

grow jo

May 3 2006, 10:06 pm

mile high guru, hey sounds like you got some serious over fert and high ph chek it out.:)

mile high guru

May 3 2006, 1:01 am

Thanks for the info on overgrow. What happened anyway? I too am having serious probs with the DWC way of growing. Mad fungus and root rot. Big time yellowing and leaf drop.

MADTOWN THUG

Apr 30 2006, 5:21 am

HEY BINKY YOU THERE.WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT CLONES BEING MORE PONTET EVERY TIME YOU CLONE. TRUE FALSE????

madtown thug

Apr 30 2006, 4:25 am

hey blue overgrow got busted and the dudes that run the site are in the pin foo. stay away from there.spred the bad news man.budd smokers stick together.stay safe. 420 FOR LIFE!!!!

grow jo

Apr 15 2006, 9:55 am

growing purple, sounds more like a drainage problem. check your drainage make sure its really good and if not adjust it.

growingpurple

Apr 1 2006, 1:03 am

overgrow is shut down and owners in jail. but anyway i use the water culter bubbler system and big problems root rot and severe yellowing anyadvice would help! i use 5 gallon containers and follow instuctions on bottle for feeding using generall hydroponics, am i using to little to much what the @!$#$ is going on not all are doing this on container is doing great besides a little leave twisting please help rip overgrow.com

BLUE|?MOON

Feb 1 2006, 11:57 pm

Something is up with overgrow......Anybody have a clue what's wrong with there website?

to william wonder

Jan 21 2006, 8:12 am

your plants look very nice on overgrow!

to jay

Jan 21 2006, 8:07 am

well if you dont want ur plants being found then u should dig them up if possible..and plant them else where. if the plants have buds on them then just plant them in a well shaded area for 6-8 weeks..they should be done by then

Jay

Jan 20 2006, 8:04 pm

I have a few plants one is about 5.5 which is purple haze the others are between 2 and 4 feet tall they are only regs. and are growing on property which recenty went up for sale and has already been bought. I fear that people will find them so i would like harvest them asap. I have never grown before.And wouldt no where to start on harvesting. How do i harvest them. And is it even possible to harvest plants that arent fully mature. also how long does in take.


I need help asap
I need help asap
I need help asap

William Wonder

Jan 14 2006, 9:52 pm

I have 15 years growing experience. 7 in soil, 8 in SWC(Shallow Water Culture)...that's bubbling in sterlite tubes. These tubs are not intercontected. See my gallery at Overgrow.com under William Wonder.

While it is true that, "harvest time is most often a function of genetics." One can grow at least twice the plant in the same amount of time using bubblers. Besides the fantastic robust growth bubblers provide, perhaps their greatest benefit is the low cost and ease of use. Cheap and simple to set up and maintain. But, keeping water temps reasonably low is key. Bubblers work best when used at a location where you can keep the water temp down. If the water seems warm to the touch, it is very easy to get root rot. Chillers can solve this issue. Using this method in the Southern half of the US during summer is probably not a good idea.
Without a doubt SWC and DWC are the state of the art of indoor growing today.

mat

Jan 6 2006, 9:19 am

lol serious seed's chemo i don't think thay did a strain called chemo

WARTHOG/THE/DOGIT

Nov 10 2005, 8:26 am

IT,S A GREAT DAY TO BEGIN. THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP. WARTHOG

BIG_RX

Oct 19 2005, 12:04 pm

I've been using the bubbler system for 2 yeas now and I have had many wicked harvests. I think that the bubbler system is one of the best systems around based on how easy it is to maintain and monitor your plants. Never mind the fact how little it costs the buds from this system are awsome I highly recomend it

hydrofome420

Jul 4 2005, 9:11 am

You want to see bubblers in action go to overgrow . com
and look at the gallery listed under this name.

Let the pictures speak for them selves

BUDDINI

May 26 2005, 12:36 pm

I experinced explosive growth by pumping oxygenated nuts` over my root ball from above in a Hydrofarm bucket.
Roots were constantly being drenched. Growth rates were typically almost nearly one inch per day, during vig/veg.
Buddini

dankygrower

Apr 16 2005, 12:47 am

i was wondering if anyone could tell me what intervals i should set my drip setup
i am planning on putting it on a timer and setting it on an on-off cycle but i'm not suure how to set it up -any help on this would be much apreciated.

RonaldMac

Apr 11 2005, 8:13 pm

I have been inquiring about hydroponic growth and I just cant get the answers I need. What is the best suggested material to read as far as hydroponics for beginners.

gweet

Mar 28 2005, 8:47 pm

whats the dirfference between a male and a female like which one can i smoke
and what are they botb for

purplehashis

Mar 28 2005, 5:38 pm

how would i tell if im growing a male or female?

DANISH_DYNAMO

Mar 19 2005, 3:55 pm

Before anyone dismisses DWC go to http://www.overgrow.com/edge/ in the 'search' bow up top type in 'DWC' or 'bubbler' (Without the quotes) and then read and inform yourself, maybe even ask the hundreds of people successfully growing using DWC if it is corrent that DWC does not yield great, and does not promote explosive growth, then read the answer to the readers question up top again, and see if you can trust what is written, knowledge is power, don't believe everything you hear.

blizz

Mar 4 2005, 10:03 am

look for some one who has grown either "mazar" from dutch passion or " biddy early from magus genetics some one plz get back to me

norton420

Feb 19 2005, 11:56 pm

ya, i was just on this site a couple hrs ago and clicked on a link-something with weed in the name(ya i know ,no help there)that had some grow tips about budding.it said to try to keeping the light off the last 2 days. can anyone help me stoned ass on either point?

gods weed

Feb 1 2005, 11:35 am

ive tried some dank ass shit, but nothin beats aero white widow, geez i could only take in 2 bowlz and ive been smokin sience 11 years old, nothin beats the dro, the best of the west.

huyjy

Jan 28 2005, 12:23 am

leave good responsible weed smokers alone dont try somthin this despiret i cant believe i even worry about getten caught by you guys to cops get into where they take shit open a bag and grab a nugget look close this plant looks like it was grown in the clowds of heaven

dont do it

Jan 25 2005, 11:37 am

dont trust this guy, he sounds like a fukin nark. trust me on this one.

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Jan 22 2005, 8:35 am

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WonderBoy

Jan 18 2005, 6:02 am

Dreamer, just keep dreaming. Anyone that kows anything can tel you dont kow shit about what you talk about

Dreamer

Jan 17 2005, 3:50 pm

I run a DWC/drip system in my bathtub. Same strain (Shishkaberry) and pheno that I grow in soil last time.

The DWC grow yielded 1.2 GPW and the soil .8 GPW. The stems were massive!

The only difference besides the system was the nutes (soil/hydro) I used PBP for soil and Supernatural for hydro. 400 watt HPS.

wheck www.overgrow.com if you need more convincing :)

lapriest

Jan 16 2005, 9:49 pm

killer, you can go to the site I mentioned in the previous post. It has some great lights that I use, and they work VERY well. Good luck !

killer

Jan 16 2005, 7:57 pm

want to know how much a medal halide light is an ware can i get this helpe me

Lapriest

Jan 14 2005, 6:21 am

You can also go to www.ezhydrokit.com They sell all your hydro needs. From rockwool to nutrients like Base, Grow, Catalyst, and Bloom. Plus, boosters. They will even give you instructions on how to mix it. I also like using Dark Energy nutrient. Stinks bad but produces well. They also sell ordor blocks that takes care of any ordors. No, I don't work for them, but this is what I use !

Nute Info

Jan 13 2005, 1:47 pm

Go to www.overgrow.com.
I'm sure you will find more than you ever wanted to know about fertz.

?????Any Info

Jan 13 2005, 12:04 pm

i need info from ANYBODY that knows about hydro nutrients, IF YOU HAVE SOMEWHAT EXPERIENCE, List a numerous types of the *BEST* nutrients you have ever tried in your life, ive tried some but i need a EYEOPENER, like CANNA OR ADVANCED NUTRIENTS...PLEASE HELP..........!!!!!!!!!!

IWONDERWHAT

Jan 12 2005, 3:51 pm

Sorry, my last post was for burntbuds. Later

IWONDERWHAT

Jan 12 2005, 3:26 pm

Taking the larger leaves off the plant will take away from the plant's ability to utlize all the light you have on it. The larger "fan leaves" are a must fir good growth. If you use a hydro system as to the one mentioned in this article a good idea is also to be sure to use a anti-fungal additive to help the plant's stay healthy. Also advised to change the water and all additives at least every week "7 day's" to keep plants healthy and disease free. Power plant additives work very well for growth and If your cloning power clone is the best cloning hormone I've ever seen for a large amount of roots in just 5 to seven day's used in a cloning chamber with a bubble stone added.

Fudmukker

Jan 12 2005, 12:46 pm

I thought that is how the bubbler's operate, with the water within 1" of the bottom of the net pot,with the roots hanging down into the nute sol ?

lapriest

Jan 11 2005, 11:34 am

man,your in business, it sounds like you have it going on. Nice HPS/HID light with bat reflectors, must get nice recin on the buds of your girls. Why dont you concider yourself experienced??? is there a lack of knoledge,HAVE YOU WAITED TILL THE TRICOMBES TURN BROWN. MAIBE THATS ALL YOUR BUDS NEED, A COUPLE MORE WEEKS FOR THEM TO GET BROWN...HAVE YOU TRIED SUPERTHRIVE, or any hydro products from Advanced Nutrients, CAnna, Voodoo JUice, TRY EM, YOul LovE tHe REsUlts So wiLL your PlaTs, and then you can feel good about calling yourself pro.

lapriest

Jan 11 2005, 1:07 am

Burntbuds, I've never tried that, but a good maniucure not only helps it bush out more, it also helps with a bigger yield. I've been growing for about 10 years now. I don't consider myself an expert by far, but my harvest is usually pretty good. Hightimes does have a link that can lead you to a book that has cutting instructions for best results. You may want to read up on it for better information.

lapriest

Jan 11 2005, 12:58 am

I use a drip system. I have net pots submerged in water with a pump that constantly pumps water to my plants 24/7. (I'm using rockwool) My water is filled with measured out nutrients. I use a 2700 shop light. One is soft white, the other is regular white. My light has bat wings. My cedar grow room is lined with mylar. I use exhaust fans. My Northern Lights & Skunks display a beautiful rootball when I'm flushing during my water changes. My point is that I know alot of people prefer outdoors, but I grow non stop year around indoors, and could'nt be happier with my results.

dwc

Jan 4 2005, 12:09 pm

DWC is somewhat complicated becaused the amout of oxigen needs to be raised and just like the EBB AND FLOW technique, you will need to drain the solution for oxigen, but DWC is very affective in yield and gives much life to the plants, but if misused, you wont get that organic hash taste when you burn it.THERE are many other ways to get the drow in your system,but so far ive tried DWC, aeroponics, drip technique, and a couple of experiments. DWC turned out giving me the most and one of the least expencive, the only problem is keepeing the water temp down.

dope_n_toker_grower

Dec 21 2004, 1:45 pm

man that shit sux ass i could make that shit under the sun in canada

burtbuds

Dec 20 2004, 6:01 pm

is it true that if you pick some of the larger leaves from the plant it will help it too bush out more?

dont ward off a comment

Dec 17 2004, 12:29 pm

it might kick u back

jonnieweedseed

Dec 17 2004, 12:29 pm

u suck ass shit heads think u r so smart spell it back

Datavirtue

Dec 16 2004, 9:27 pm

Your lame conclusions and appearant lack of experience with hydroponics really shows to those who know and grow.

Dripin away

Dec 16 2004, 12:09 pm

i have a drip system on my plants, it is easy and affective. easy as 123, first pump on one side, second on the other, one gives,other gets. Rockwool to holp the roots and good hydro juice, thats all you need. Just refresh roots every 5-15 min. depends if your light is HPS or HID> WELL GOTA SMOKE ME A SLIFF TO KEET THE HIGH.

easy dro.

Dec 16 2004, 12:02 pm

there are many ways to get what you want out of hydro, dwc and drip technique are far yet the easyest and the least expensive, but using it out door could be a bitch. Its all a matter of right time to refresh the roots, what your using and whats the temp.

Grower_Gone_Wild

Dec 15 2004, 5:04 pm

I've been using DWC for awhile now, its fast, simple, and most of all effective hydroponics.

See you all on overgrow.com

some unknown person

Dec 15 2004, 12:19 pm

It's all about the tap root, god damn it!

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