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Busted Letter #109 – In Need of Advice

Fri, Mar 23, 2007 3:39 pm

Last Thursday I was contacted at work by the local authorities, explaining to me that the alarm had gone off at my house and that when the officers had shown up, the front door was not fully closed.

They then proceeded to enter my house to make sure it was clear and found in my basement my one un-flowered plant and four recently rooted clippings. I have never sold or entertained the idea of selling my personal use weed.

I had to admit ownership so as to protect my wife from prosecution, and was charged with possession, cultivation, and intent to sell. The police were actually very respectful towards me and my property and I was equally respectful towards them.

I am 25 years old and my record is spotless but I really don't know what to expect. I never even smoke out of my basement, and my plant was in a closed off and latched room.

My first appearance in court is on Friday. Does anyone know of any other cases that are similar to mine? A very small amount of grown plants but the same charges as bigger growers? I'm just trying to gain perspective on what might happen at my court date.

I have heard only horror stories about public defenders but I’m not sure if I will be able to afford my own lawyer. I’m quite desperate for help so, if anyone can, please comment with advice.

Thanks.

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Lemonhead

May 21 2009, 11:05 am

Slick,
I believe that after 9/11 there were laws/acts/policies put in place that effectively allow entry into homes without a search warrant. So, if the house itself was unlocked, they could legally go in, and because of the circumstances (said alarm, access to a locked room would not be out of the question since "lookingf for break-in perps would be looked at as reasonable in a court of law.
Having said that, I'd like to point out that I am NOT a lawyer and am, to be honest, likely talking out my ass. But that is my understanding at any rate.
Good luck y'all!!!

anonymous

Feb 16 2009, 11:33 pm

If in fact it is your 1st offense you will get 6 months to a years probation DONT SMOKE!!

busted 2

Dec 13 2008, 5:49 pm

i am seeking others who would enter in a class action suit against electric companies for alowing law inforcement agencies to examine my consumption without a warrent,if interested,contact me.i live in wasilla alaska,and matanuska electric association is responsible for violatng my rights

mamaredd22

Sep 8 2008, 1:56 pm

smokabol and chill take it like a man or be the BITCH

anonymous

May 29 2008, 3:29 am

just think, had you locked that room all this would never have happened. lock your grow rooms!

SLICK!

May 19 2008, 8:34 pm

ok. i'm not sure where you live but i'm from the south and down here if that happened the cops would have to obtain a search warrant and go back and search your house to charge you for your plant because they didn't come into your house looking for weed. you should have been asked when they contacted you for your permision to enter the house. as for the lawyer thing, if you can contact one and just ask his/ her advice on the situation sometimes that can be a big help, they can point out laws that you might not even know existed and give you advice on how to present your case in court.

dalebud

May 10 2008, 10:05 am

thats crap cops could be hittin the crackheads but no i got some herbal shit from hightimes and im pissed anyone wanna pay for a headache herbal smokeshop sucks and are liars BEWARE... herbal suck shop

Bean

Jan 31 2008, 1:17 am

This same thing happened to me and you can google it if you want. It is Boone county Kentucky. Basically man you are fucked. The way its going to go is the judge is going to strike any thing you got down in regards to the alarm and do they have permission and is it constitutional for them to enter on alarm. The law is written already in case law that any police officer can enter a dwelling if they have been summoned there by anything in regards to safety. The fact that your alarm is corresponding with the company and the police station. When your alarm went off, it was telling the police that there was chance that the address is in distress or something around it is in distress. Sometimes if people are kidnapped in there house they will set the alarm off to alert police. Even though the alarm was probably off when the kidnapper knapped. That law will never change because of the agreements with the security company and it will never change because if it did it would create a major issue in cases like that. Say the kidnapper said he was there with permission of the owner but in fact a kidnapper. The police could bring up the fact that the person set the alarm off while she was present in the house. That one thing indeed will convict a kidnapper without a doubt. I pleade to cultivation 5 over. I had 1 plant and 3 clippings. By the time we reached the station. Meraculously there were 5 plants and it became a felony. Shady motherfuckers

knowing

Jan 9 2008, 11:20 am

if the cops hadnt entered your home and searched and you were robbed, then you would be upset and file a complaint. Your alarm went off which gives them the legal right to be on your property. They found the items in plain sight, not searched your home. You need to plea out, and likely you will only get probation. STOP SMOKING WEED

unkowen

Sep 11 2007, 12:38 am

they entered your place with out a warent but there was an alarm that went off humm sounds like a catch 22 but i'm willing to bet that you'll be fine judge will see that since they entered your place with out the intent of finding anything (like of your person)

justin

Sep 9 2007, 5:02 pm

wow unlucky eh? i live around new orleans and i had some fiya kb... i had 2 little flakes in my bag(dont know y i dint throw the bag away) but them to little flakes they sad equaled up to .25 of a gram.... they lied.. but louisiana the amount is nothing... it can be 10 lbs it can be 1 thc hair... probation/drug court.... up to 2 years... its licks balls eh?

snowman

Jun 19 2007, 10:50 pm

depends on what state but sounds like a fine to me and maybe community service thats it bro dont sweat it

Kermit the Frog

Jun 3 2007, 1:19 am

theyre gonna slap ur hand tell u its ok an give u a hell of a fine so start putting back about 2 grand an hope ur ok an pay that fine i was busted with a ounce in a motor vechicle i gave them cops hell i was higher than a georiga pine!

sir smokes a lotz

May 31 2007, 2:50 pm

hey man if you drink orange jusic then you r ok for like when ever but ya i went for a drug test but i passs

ur mom

May 29 2007, 12:46 pm

fuckin stupid ass bicth u never grow in ur own fuckin house for that reson and it probely wont be that bad for a first time ofender it wasent for me

Charlie Loves Valerie

May 21 2007, 2:20 pm

i love my wife more than mary jane

May 18 2007, 1:16 pm

anyone know of a professional botanist or where i can find one?

a friend

May 16 2007, 5:28 am

.... The intent to sell charge will never hold up in a jury trail if there is no physical evidense of such activity (ie, scales, baggies, etc...) They trow this charge in as a plea barganing tool. Usally saying they will drop this charge if you plead guilty to felony cultivation (or most serious charge).Under the circumstances, If it were me, I would not accept any plea bargain unless they were willing to drop all charges except MISDEMEANOR cultivation. then you would probably be lookin at probation givin this is your first offense. Otherwise I would plea not guilty and request a public defender and a jury trial. This is your bargaining tool! The state does not want to spend money on a jury trial it is not sure it cant win !!! A public defender is paid by the state to represent YOU. Although the usally "work" for the state. Dont go into his office saying "I heard this...". Go to his office with specific statutes in hand !! Do your homework, If you can sell your case to your defender, he is more likley to fight for you !!! (Or at least get you a better deal) If it is possible, hire your own attorney out of the high times legal directory. Theese lawyers are usally affiliated with NORML and have alot of experience in theese kind of cases. Best of luck to you brother and hold your ground !!! I hope this is helpful to you and if you have anymore questions let me know !!!

a friend

May 16 2007, 5:12 am

It is illegal for anyone not licensed to practice law to give anyone legal advice, so anything I write her is not advice but rather a "What I would do if it were me"! With that being said, the first thing I would do would be to ceck NORML's website. State laws vary greatly from state to state. Some stes go by cultivation weight and others by number of plants. NORML's site breaks the laws down by the state you live in. Secondly, Check the state statutes on thier state site. They will have all laws (not just penalties) listed on thier site. Also sounds like it wont be that bad. Prosecutor will probably try to get you to plea bargin. Avoid this unless they make a really sweet deal as it sounds like you have a good chance at beating the rap! search for statutes. many states have "Search and seizure" guidelines set as trial rules. Without a warrant you can file a "motion to supress evidense" or even possibilty of "motion to dismiss" if search is found to be unlawful. However expect state to argue that the alarm was grounds for officers to legally be there. There is something usally called " motion for discovery" filed by your attorney. This is evidense and witnesses the state intends to call to court. If there was in fact an Alarm there has to be a record of it! If no record of alarm exists then your attorney can file a "motion to dismiss." As this is your first offense they will try to pressure you into a plea bargain. Remember one thing: no matter how nice officers are to you, they are NOT your freind !!! Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law !!! They act like your freind and then testify and twist your words in court!! they do this as an intial way to collect evidence !!! Dont speak about details of case to anyone other than your attorney !!! This will severely decrease your chances of getting charges dropped.....

manditory5

May 14 2007, 11:35 pm

the mandatory 5 year sentence is for 100 or more plants. 100 to 1000 plants is 5 to 40 years. for f'n weed! aspirin is more toxic than pot! good luck, man. im going thru some similar crap. i just posted a busted letter too. i dont see it though.

str8pimpinb*i*t*c*h

May 14 2007, 7:39 pm

i got busted by the damn cops friday night and went to jail and just got out today for possession with intent to deliver and i only had a hit in my pocket the cops hate my family my dad has a track recored longer than a mile so when i get pulled over not only do they hit me with the books but they throw me in jail for nothing cuz of my last name well anyways my dad got me a laywer paid 25,000 for me to get out but now the pigs are tryin to say i had a qp on me what the fawk do i do?

darrin

May 13 2007, 10:20 pm

special k has a point. no warrent no case. and anything obtained with out a warrent can't be used against you.

special k

May 13 2007, 9:40 pm

first off it doesnt matter if it was a break in. they have no right to go looking thru your house. and secondly they were in the basement. with out a warrent they have no case.

Tim

May 13 2007, 7:26 pm

You dumb ass

steve

May 9 2007, 7:26 pm

if your basement was latched and locked, especailly from the outside of the room, then this wouldn't have happened a burgurly cant and wont lock himself in a rooom with the lock on the out side. saddly you'll gonna pay for this, and depending on where u live, ya get the same charge for like 49 plants, even if its just 4, 50 and up is min. mandatory 5-10 yrs or soo.

captn420

May 9 2007, 7:09 pm

dear fellow potster i got popped with a piss test at work and i drive trucks its now on my licence and its screwing me up from getting another driving job any sugestions on this topic

Helpful stoner

May 7 2007, 9:12 pm

Calihorsegirl: theres a bunch of things your boyfriend can do to avoid pissing positive. #1 is simply going to your local GNC store and getting the "Detox" mixtures; which completly flush your system if you follow the directions carefully (might want more than one just in case). Also, if your "Sweetie" doesn't smoke on a daily or frequent basis and has only done it a few times, prune pills and ALOT of water can do the trick. Just remember to piss alot!

calihorsegirl

May 6 2007, 9:26 pm

Help!! My sweetie has to take a drug test in 12 days and we want to know what we can do to help him pass his test. Thanks.

Nor-Cal Smoker

May 6 2007, 1:23 pm

Hey, Da Kine, wandering where you been hiding. Hope to see you at the new busted letter. Peace

da kine

May 5 2007, 8:20 pm

Hello?! Happy cinquo de mayo! late

da kine

May 5 2007, 8:20 pm

Hello?! Happy cinquo de mayo! late

da kine

May 3 2007, 1:59 pm

Wow, I don't think I've seen it this quiet on here before. Well I hope all is well with everyone. I'll check back later. late

Apr 27 2007, 4:33 pm

well,so far riverrunner,you are the only one who says he isnt,and you know from where? pot tv?ok,that could be fake real easy,so the score is my good freind who says he is NOT free,and you,yes one to one,well,has anyone tried to call him up?

Spence from OC

Apr 26 2007, 3:37 am

Money is the answer...in cali it isn't a big deal unless you have a mass amount of bud....get a great lawyer...it's worth it where u from

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 25 2007, 3:32 pm

Hello, Hello, Hello.......Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me......Is there anyone home?

river runner

Apr 23 2007, 4:27 pm

I Surf anonymously ! Hope you all do as well.... Yo - wh, Mark Emery is not in Jail,go to pot-tv.com - and watch the latest video submitted of the "4/20 celebration" in Vancouver British Columbia ,and see for yourself.I personally believe The BC3 will NOT be extradited. Towards the end of May i do believe - the BC3 go to Canadian court,and the Canadian system is a lot different than ours,....Peace Mon ~

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 23 2007, 1:20 pm

We all wonder the same thing, Iloveearth. It is just not right to see that kind of stuff happen. It's all about $$$$$

iloveearth

Apr 23 2007, 12:45 am

i understand the need for laws,, they are SUPPOSED to protect us, and everyone has to have a job, right? as in, cops, lawyers,politicians, me, you, everyone, right? so why do pot smokers get more time in jail then murders? why is smoken a doob worse then shooten someone in the head? i would rather see a guy toten a bowl then an uzi, wouldnt you? he's happy, he's not goin anywhere fast, he's not gonna shoot me, cuz he's feelen right, so,, can anyone answer that for me?
huh?
thanks for listenin!

Apr 22 2007, 4:13 pm

yes,it is very slow,ill guess ill check out some other art,but will keep checking this one,good day to you,n.c,

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 22 2007, 1:19 pm

Well, I guess there is nobody around! Guess I'll check back later.

Apr 21 2007, 10:36 am

really dead out here nor-cal,we must be off the main page for a reason,hightimes must have a reason,m.e. would be a good busted story,no one has any proof that he isnt in prison,no proof at all,smkabol

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 20 2007, 6:13 pm

That is really screwed up.

Apr 20 2007, 5:41 pm

thank yo n-c.,a good freind of mine who is a care provider for four people up here knows a reletive of marc,who is in prison and has been convicted of tax evasion.marc is a resident of n.y. state,and his lawyer is the only person he can have contact with has as part of the exridition deal has decided to keep it out of the media,so it is OUR job to let people know!!!!its life for him.bummer man,goverment sucks!what a stink,well glad im being heard,so FREE marc emery!!!

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 20 2007, 3:28 pm

I haven't heard from it's me for a few days, maybe he is hard at work.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 20 2007, 3:28 pm

I am here and can read what you have posted. I agree to some point but, I don't want to see the wrong people killed for the right thing. Maybe what you say about M.E. is true but, I wouldn't know. If it is then that really fucking sucks.

Apr 20 2007, 2:05 pm

I think Im the only one who sees my comments!!!is there anyone here? am I being heard? please confirm,nor cal ? are you getting this?you dont have to agree just tell if my post about m. e . is here,is TRUE!smkabol

Apr 20 2007, 2:02 pm

420 is not a day of peace!!!!every one should go out and buy guns and ammo,stock up.terrerist tactics I say!!!the american people will become terrerist because our gov. dosnt do the will of the people!!!!they,bush,dea will feel it!!! I say this strait up,I havnt had ANY weed for three weeks and this is how I am,f. word peace!!!!!us gov. you will pay if weed isnt legal,totaly legal,lets take it to them and it will make whats going on in iraq look like kindergarden,no peace untill its done!!!!!smkabol

Charlie/midnight toker

Apr 20 2007, 1:37 pm

to all the weed smokers happy 4/20 and ya'll take care when ya'll smoking the sweet sensemilla.i ♥ val

Apr 20 2007, 1:15 pm

DEA AND BUSH,YOU SUCK,I HOPE SOMONE ELSE GOES OFF IN DC AND KILLS A BUNCH OF YOU!!!!!THE RIGHT PEOPLE THIS TIME,JUDES COPS,DEA,I HOPE THEY DO YOU!!!!!!

Apr 20 2007, 12:06 pm

revolution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apr 20 2007, 12:04 pm

its me,where the hell are you???

Apr 20 2007, 12:03 pm

I am buying more guns,ammo!!!people do the same before you cant!,smkabol

Apr 20 2007, 11:56 am

Im not going to say who I know,except that we know the sound of m.e voice!!!!we know!!!!!spread the news!!!!revolution!!!!smkabol,this is weed hero

Apr 20 2007, 11:53 am

half my comments are not getting thru!!!!!damm you hightimes!you are censoring me!!!!piss on youdea,bush I hope somone goes off on you and kills your ass like that guy back east,except I hope they kill the right people!!!!!smkabol

Apr 20 2007, 11:28 am

he has not called anybody!!!!!he never renouced his us citenship,he never WAS a canadian citizen,he wasnt born in canada and they exradited his ass,hes in jail,NO weed ,cigs,no phone calls and you can believe it or not,I dont care,its me,are you by?

Apr 20 2007, 11:17 am

its not false,river runner,2 and a half months,just because its not on the news,its from a GOOD source,so far your the only one who says its not true,im sure its me will back it,its hush,hush......our gov. wants to keep it secret,just go to his web site,you cant get a hold of him and he hasnt made an entry,well you just dont want to believe it,smkabol.,,,also the dea has this very blog under CLOSE scurtiny,also canabis cafe and has been plucking growers right off the web,I would be VERY carefull if I were you.if you dont believe it why cant I call my friend anymore?because they got him,is true

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 20 2007, 10:30 am

HAPPY 4/20 FELLOW STONERS! HAVE A VERY STONY DAY, I'M GOING TO.

river runner

Apr 20 2007, 3:20 am

Hey,wh – is everything ok ? why are you spreading false information ? - happy 4/20 all day long ~ ♪♫ ~  ~ ♪♫ ~ Peace ~ ♪♫.

Apr 20 2007, 2:24 am

marc emery has been in us prison for 21/2 months,turns out he is a resedent of new york state and was exridited,he will spend the rest of his life in prison,just like al capone,tax evasion so its me,pay your taxes,along with his buddy,tommy chong,I KNOW this is true now,smkabol,and of course no one here ever got seeds in the mail!

Apr 20 2007, 2:20 am

hey

You guys are retards

Apr 19 2007, 2:32 pm

If the cops are called to the house from the Alarm company becuase it is going off it is their responsibility to enter the home and make sure it is secure for the home owner. If they did not follow up and there was an invader the police department would be held liable. If they were securing the home and found the plants in the open they are not required to obtain a search warrant. Their intent was not to search the home for illegal drugs or weapons they just happened to come upon them during their standard procedure.

dopeheadh8r

Apr 19 2007, 1:57 pm

do you retards really not have anything better to do than spend all of your time on here? its the most ridiculous thing i have ever seen

dgaf

Apr 19 2007, 1:36 am

anything the police find without a warrent they cant arrest you for it

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 18 2007, 12:26 pm

I can't wait to hear your story, Da Kine! My mother-in-law recently tried to escape a psychiatric hospital. She climbed one of the trees outside. The next day, staff had it cut down. The things people do when they aren't in the "right" minds.

da kine

Apr 18 2007, 8:02 am

Nice to see you river runner. I'm glad to hear that all is well in your land. Well I have no big plans for 4/20 because I am working but I will celebrate after work in grand fashion. No more chasing the bag for me!!!!!!! Oh it is beautiful! Time to get ready for work. Speaking of, I run a kitchen at one of the countries foremost pshychiatric institutes and I was witness to my first escape attempt yesterday. I'll share the story later. A good story for tonight......late.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 18 2007, 1:28 am

Good to hear from you River Runner. I have been wondering about you the last few days. Glad to hear things are going alright. I also thought Salvia wouldn't do anything. I thought since you could buy it legally it had to be a rip off. Boy, was I wrong. Never again. Anyway, happy 4/20 to you.

river runner

Apr 17 2007, 10:25 pm

Hope everyone is looking forward to a nice weekend of Peace ~ Pot ~ & appreciation for Planet Earth ~ Under one vibe of conciseness. ☺ -Share&Educate. meet up with fellow Stoners in Peace and Respect.I for one will be thinking of the many people behind bars for Non-Violent Drug crimes. Well Back to work! i only have me - myself & I to take care of all the Girls,and at the moment im in the process of making oils,tinctures,butter and a little bit of hash 20g or so maybe.I kinda save up everything through out the months, and it builds up fast at times.lifes Good! other than that i recently hit a few WideSpread panic shows and they were of the Chain !! . on another note - I Grow Salvia but i do not smoke it.Everything has its place i guess,The times i have smoked Salvia,afterwards it feels as if i am drained of allot of energy,i do not like the feeling,my first comment after coming down the first time was "If as a kid my mother gave me that stuff to me and told me it was Pot just to scare me it probably would have worked and i probably would have had no desire to smoke more" - The first time i smoked that stuff,i went straight to "Leave it to Beaver f*##*# Land" - (B/W land) - then i quickly went to into carnival colorful land.But thats not it!!! my friends looked at me and laughed because im already a big Joker not to mention we all did not believe it was going to actually do something (should have never put into the bong like i was told NOT to do) but ayways you Know the saying "To much of everything is just Enough" well thats me at times - so they all just stood there and laughed at me in dis belief that i was actually trippin so hard,so fast.anyways thats my salvia story - all you Out Door Cali Growers you make me droooooL !!!!....Peacepotmicrodots.

88mm

Apr 17 2007, 7:25 pm

Don't forget, 4-20 is also Hitler's Birthday as well as the anniversary of the Columbine tragedy.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 17 2007, 1:35 pm

Dude, if you knew who or where I was, then maybe I might be concerned but, you don't so I'm not worried.

And if you are Jimmy, the guy I called an idiot on March 29th on this page, I really apologize for hurting your feelings. I just thought it was bad advice to try and take a plea deal. Anyway, I apologize if that is what pisse you off. If not, I don't know what to say cause I haven't done anything wrong to anyone. So peace, love and potato salad, Bro!

FUCK THE NOR-CAL SMOKER!

Apr 17 2007, 1:12 pm

you're already dead.enjoy 4/20 while you can haha.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 17 2007, 12:04 pm

Only 3 days to 4/20. What are your plans?

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 16 2007, 11:43 pm

Where is everybody?

88mm

Apr 16 2007, 11:19 pm

I made a grand....

Corporate Nagra

Apr 16 2007, 7:37 pm

Damn, the Dow is up 108 points today. How did you all do?

Nappy Hoe

Apr 16 2007, 7:17 pm

What happened at VT was a tradegy. So, any bets on how long it will take Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson to capitalize on this tradegy?

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 16 2007, 2:30 pm

It is sad to see the state of mankind. I can't believe the way people treat each other. This guy in Virginia, who shot all these people, the guy who threatens me on this site, etc. It is sooo sad to see that people can't treat each other better. I am also guilty sometimes of not being so nice but, I don't understand the way these people think.

Hey, Da Kine, I hope you are doing okay, I know the weather is awful out there.

Take care guys, and thanks for supporting me, I really appreciate it. It does give me faith that there are still some good souls left out there in this big, mean, ugly world.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 16 2007, 2:04 pm

Yeah, they even pulled one of my responses to him that I posted this morning. I think it was only a few minutes after you posted. Anyway, he deserved it and I don't care if they monitor what we post cause I got nothing to worry about.

its me

Apr 16 2007, 2:01 pm

No,They pulled All Of That Freaks Threat On You Nor-Cal,And They Even Pulled Mine For Some Reason????????? Whatever,I Was Just Standing Up For One Of The Reg's Here,Anyways..Really Over Cast here Today.......Cough,Cough,COugh.......

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 16 2007, 1:23 pm

They have changed the page again or something. Not sure what is going on. Maybe when it hits 200 comments it switches over or something.

da kine

Apr 16 2007, 8:25 am

Have any of you guys ever ordered seeds through the mail? If so, what company did you use, what were the average germination rates, and were you happy with the end product? Any info would help. I'm glad to hear that The Year Round is so vigorous it's me. Good luck with the crossing efforts. Nor-Cal, I'm glad to see that you survived the weekend. I have to get ready for work cough, cough, cough, I'll check in tonight. late

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 15 2007, 11:09 pm

You mean a busted letter?

haystacked

Apr 15 2007, 11:02 pm

how do u make one of these like wright 1 of these

its me

Apr 15 2007, 10:28 pm

Sounds Like a Great Day,Love That Wreck,I Am Starting About 50 Ny Sour Diesels From Seed Right Now,Will Be Turning All The Ladies Into Full-time Mothers For Some Friends Down South,They Eat The Diesel Up In L.A. And Pay With Arms And Legs.Hope To Get Around 35 Girls Out Of The 50,This Diesel Came From a Friend Down In Grass Valley,Its Diesel X Kush,And It Is Beautiful,All Super Small Nugs.............

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 15 2007, 8:50 pm

Spent the day a little farther up the hill with my brother, husband, and dad and we made clones all day while the kids ran a muck. It was a good day. That is great news, it' me. Sounds like a success!!! Can't wait to hear about the results when you finish. We started 40 more plants to day. Different strains, ones we've been doing for the past couple of years. We are doing some train wreck, white widow, cali. big bud and something else, it slips my mind right now. I am tired. We rode the dirt bikes a little today, also. Think it is time to clean up and eat dinner. Catch up with you guys a bit later.

its me

Apr 15 2007, 6:55 pm

Hey Nor-Cal Smoker Where Ya At?I So Hot Today,You Would Almost Think Summer Was A Week Away,AND I HAVE The GREATEST NEWS...........................................The Year Round Has Started To Flower As Of Yesterday,Fucking Crasy,My Records Show 38 Days From Start,They Average About 2 1/2 ft,Looks Like They Will Pretty Much Be One Main Top,I Tied About 20% Of Them To The ground At 18",And The Rest Are Growing Straight Up With All Lower Branches/Leaf Cut And Cloned.So If What I Am Seeing Is Right They Will Finush In Late June,Right When The Sun Is At Its Strongest/Most Hours (17 1/2 of unblocked sun here )And These ladies Will Be In FULL BLOOM........Just Fucking Crasy Man,I Have A Really Nice Early Girl From last Year I Plane To Cross With The Y-R.Got To Run..........................Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough

bob

Apr 15 2007, 2:08 pm

Wh the reason why we must live with the sins of our farthers, is beacause they are raised with the fact that white people once stole them from their native lands and forced them to work some with less favorable conditions than others. Nad the fact of the matter is when the abolished slavery of african americans they made us all slaves to corperations.

Welcome to the age of the "Wage Slave". Our new masters may not be able to beat us but they sure can pull a pscylogical number on you with threats of unemployment loss of medical care and an and ever increaseingly unceartin finical further. They want more for less from us and if we refuse to accept they hire two illegals to take our spot our outsource the whole operation.

Michael Munoz

Apr 15 2007, 5:14 am

Dude that sux!

All i have to say is spark up like 5 blunts and smoke them all so u can forget about all that shit for a while.....I would!

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 15 2007, 12:20 am

I know, wh, and you are sooo right. He feeds off of it.

The High Canadian

Apr 14 2007, 9:08 pm

hello all, i know i've been gone for quite some time, just checking in.. my event is well under way now, have bundles of flyers that have gone out, some have been posted others passed out and so on.. just did a short phone interview for a podcast in ottawa.. things are starting to roll over here, how have ya's all been.. its good to see you guys are still here! I'm wondering if any of you use msn or not, maybe we can all jump on that sometime and have a discussion or something?

i'll be back again,

Always,
THC

Apr 14 2007, 9:06 pm

nor-cal,the more it bothers you the more vash will keep doing it,ive looked WAY back and he has gotton that way before,hes sick,thats a good way to look at it,dont take it so personel,like water off a ducks back he is imature,smkabol,hes probly has a beef with all women,mabey his sick mother raped his ass,yes,that must be it

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 14 2007, 7:36 pm

Glad to see you are still around da kine. Thanks for your support, I have no idea of who this person is that is harassing me. I just don't understand still why I was targeted.

Apr 14 2007, 7:32 pm

I myself am getting tired of this imus thing,he should be able to say just about anything he wants,whos up at that time anyway? I know hell get another job,firering him wont change a thing.I have nothing against black people but they have even more slang names for white people than we know,with honky,whity and soforth has NEVER offended me so I dont know why the words nappyhead,the n word,spearchucker,blackie,jiggaboo,you get me? How long must the white people who were born generations after the people that enslaved them pay? Its all BULLSHIT to me,I dont understand??????

Apr 14 2007, 7:19 pm

That sounds good,da kine,glad to see you are still out here.Well day 15 and it is a lot harder than I thought,seems there was a TEMENDOUS amount of thc built up in my body as my wife and me are just begining to feel real jonesing.!!ive looked at some of my post during this period and man,am I way out there??!!!!all I can say is if there coming to get me,good luck with the claymores!in the back of my mind I know I have some cookies around and my wife didnt say anything about eating any,but I think ill flush them,they wernt very tasty when I made 6 months ago when I made them,tasted griity and a LOT like good weed as I recall.,my mind is starting to work in a very different way,I have a strange emagination.oh well,good vibes to all,smkabol

da kine

Apr 14 2007, 6:30 pm

Good day to all! So the topic is salvia eh? I have only tried it once and I was not pleased at all. A buddy gave me a gram one time and I smoked it in one sittiing. It was like taking a hit of acid and waiting for a trip that just never happens. I'm sure that it is only a matter of time before it is outlawed. So I was watching a documentary called "The Drug Years" on VH1 last night; it was a great show to watch while smoking a spliff of fine nuggets. You should check it out. Although I haven't come across this vance charachter while I've been here, I think he an eddie are one in the same. Nor-Cal, you know that you can report this to the editor and this man or woman will be contacted and possibly prosecuted, right? Just a thought.......or a ramble.......so baked. Time to cook dinner. I'll check back. late

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 14 2007, 12:03 pm

The only reason I can think of is because I have openly admitted that I am a woman. That is the only difference between me and others who visit here.

You are probably right though, it probably is VASH or maybe that other guy Eddie but, maybe they are one in the same. Who knows? Not me and truthfully I don't care, I just don't think it is polite to threaten someones life. Talk all the shit you want, but don't threaten me.

its me

Apr 14 2007, 1:12 am

10:11 West Coast Time,And It looks Like Our Nor-Cal Smoker Is Stoned As She Should Be..........Cough,Cough,COugh,COugh,Cough,Cough,cough,COugh,cOugh,COUgh,CoUgH,CoUGH,Ocugh,Cough..................Whew..................

Now Thats GOOD Oil.............Whew.............

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 14 2007, 1:05 am

I'm here, but, I kinda lost track of time. Guess I'm pretty stoned. hahahahaha

its me

Apr 14 2007, 12:41 am

9:40 West Coast Time,You Around Nor-Cal?............................................There Had To Put A Few Drops Of Oil In My Bowl..............................Cough,Cough,COugh,COugh,Cough......Be Back In A Few..........

semit hgih

Apr 13 2007, 11:58 pm

donald degroot

Apr 13 2007, 11:56 pm

are you out there? and from v c? sc?ill bet you are or you must have died.

its me

Apr 13 2007, 11:30 pm

Hey Nor-Cal Smoker, I Will Be Here At 10:00 P.M. As Well Smoking Some Oil I Made from Some Sour Diesel X Kush Trim i Got From a Good Ol'Boy From Grass Valley,Anyways Its a Beautiful Amber Color...Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough,cough.......

And Yes Nor-Cal Smoker,SALVIA SUCKS!!!!!! Tell Your Hubby I Think Throwing That Shit Out Was A GREAT Idea.....How In The FUCK Could Anybody Use That Shit For Meditation Beats Me???????? See You at 10 Nor-Cal Smoker....Cough,COugh,Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 13 2007, 11:10 pm

Salvia sucks, my brother-in-law turned me on to some. I didn't like it either. I have heard it is used for meditation but, I didn't like the way it made me feel. Like you said it seemed like it lasted longer than it really did and it felt like I had blacked out. I won't do that shit again either, and my husband threw out the rest of what we had too.

By the Way, I will be posting at 10pm pacific coast time while I'm smoking a joint, laughing my ass off about this punk who keeps threatening me. Bring it on. Remember, if you were able to figure out who I was, someone will be able to figure out who you are through the postings you've made, so.......I'm waiting!!

jointtoker024

Apr 13 2007, 10:40 pm

yo i don think they can do anything. I am not familiar with the law but i heard if they have a warrant then they can only look for that thing on the warrant or the thing the alarm went off for. im sorry if you cant understand what i am typing while trying to smoke. I keep on stopping in the middle of sentences and an not even looking at the computer. having too much fun watching how high.

its me

Apr 13 2007, 4:56 pm

Theres No Way In Hell This Guy Would Get 2 Years In The Pen For 5 Ladies,At Most Hes Looking At A Long Probation Period,First Offence With 5 Plants Aint Shit I Dont Care What State This Fool Is In,And Yes Hes A FOOL For Having a Alarm At The Grow Site,Dee Deet Dee,And This Ediot Hasnt Even Came Back To The Site To Answer Any Of Our Questions About Where In The Fuck He Is,Anyways.......Cough,Cough,Cough,COugh,Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough

DONT WORRY MAN

Apr 13 2007, 4:33 pm

FIRST OFF THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE YOU INTENDED TO SELL, NO PROOF! DROPPED! THEY THEY WILL TRY AND GET YOU FOR GROWING AN ILLEGAL DRUG. iF YOU ARE ILL PRESENT MEDICAL DEFENCE ON WHY... THIRD THEY HAD A RIGHT TO BE THERE IF STORY IS TRUE. bUT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE SAFE AND SECURE IN YOUR PROPERTY, WAS VIOLATED, THERE IS NO ONE HARMED IN THE CASE BESIDES YOU, LOL. It is your right to Liberty, the peoples will IF VOTED AS MEDICAL. iF NOT THEN YOU ARE FACING 2 YEARS IN PRISON IF YOU HAVE NO MEDICAL REASON WHY.... tHE JUDGE IS FORCED TO SENTANCE YOU TO 2 YEARS PRISON TIME BY LAW, AND EVEN IF HE FEELS FOR YOU , YOU STILL HAVE TO DO THE TIME, LIKE IF YOU RUN FROM THE COPS IN A CAR.......THIS IS NOT ADVICE, JUST THINGS i HAVE HERD, YOU NEED TO SEE A LAWYER FOR THE REAL SCOOP AND FOR LEGAL ADVICE. WISH YOU WELL...

Apr 13 2007, 4:02 pm

sounds like when I tried some angel dust in the 70s and found myself in the back seat of my super bee,my freinds said my car was in the middle of the road and I was crawling around in a fiel,they scooped me up and threw me in the back seat and cruised main street when I came out of it,FUCK that shit,WHY is salvia dormia legal???????what a fucked up goverment,people are going to die!!!!what the fuck??????

its me

Apr 13 2007, 2:51 pm

FUCK FEDERAL LAWS!!!! Sorry wh But Federal Laws Can KISS MY TAN ASS!!!!ANyways.........Have Any Of Yous Tried SALVIA Extract 25,I Tried Some a Few Weeks Ago And All I Can Say Is FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!Now I Know It Is Totaly Legal As It Should Be But That Shit Was Scary As Hell,That Shit Should Be Taken Off The Earth,Now My Wife Has Said That The Straight Leaf Is Really a Cosmic Trip But I Only Took One Bong Hit Of The 25 X Extract And I went To FUCKING PLUTO Or Should I Say Pluto Came To Me,I Cant Rememeber Anything After The Earth Left My Feet But My wife Said I Push Her Out Of My way And Ran Straight Into Out Fence At Full Speed,All I Remember Is Wakeig Up On The Ground Asking Where My Shoes Where Since I Guess I Had Ran Out Of Them,It Had Felt Like I Was Out Of It For Hours And Just Wanted The Trip To Come To An End,And My Wife Tells Me I Was Only Tripping For About 2 Minutes Or So,And Within 7 Minutes I Was Totaly Sober Again,I Flushed What i Had Left.Maybe I Should Have Given It Back To The Guy Who Gave It To My But That Shit Really Scared The Shit Out Of Me Man,And Get This,Everytime I Go Outside Since I Smoked SALVIA The Air Smells Different,Its Like It Opened Up Another Sence Of Smelling??? All I Know Is That I Would Never Smoke That SHIT Again!!!

Apr 13 2007, 2:03 pm

dont you worry a bit,nor-cal,this person has already broken fed. law three times and can and will be tracked down,it is stalking and threats of your life,you wont see him here soon,dont pay no att.,he has no idea who you are,just a reminder that we must be carefull on the web.smkabol

Nor-Cal Sm,oker

Apr 13 2007, 11:33 am

Good to see you too, Da Kine!

da kine

Apr 13 2007, 8:48 am

Good morning Nor-Cal, it's me, wh, and everyone else. I have been hard at work so I have not had any time to post the last two weeks. I'm glad to see you are all doing well. wh, it is nice to know that you fight the good fight in your own way. You seem like you have turned a corner in your life or something because you have never reached out like that before. You have always hit me as being a very secretive person. It's nice to see that we can all share some stuff with each other though. I have to get to work but I'm off this weekend so I'll pop in tonight. late

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 12 2007, 11:57 pm

He hasn't been smoking anything, he said last week he bet his wife he could quit for six months.

I personally would never voluntarily quit smoking, I don't ever NOT smoke, sometimes I reduce the amount I smoke but, only because it is stonier than what I'm used to smoking.

its me

Apr 12 2007, 11:47 pm

What Have You Been Smoking wh??? Sounds Like Good Stuff

Apr 12 2007, 11:15 pm

I do what I do to attone for my sins,I feel it is the only way I can GIVE back for the evil deeds I have commited 15 years ago when I finally got off meth.I AM paying for it now as my stepson is now in prison,and we are raising his kids and I am 50 and seem to be going thru a mid life thing trying to re=invent myself,making it a point to work circles around these young kids,nor- cal and its me thanks for listening as you really,really help me!I will sign off now as I am getting ready for my next field trip!!!

Apr 12 2007, 11:00 pm

Corporations that drug test MUST be put on normals black list naming them as NOT weed friendly,it is our duty.so they only get unskilled LOZERS to work for them.I only expose there sham drug testing,wich dosnt test for alcohol I might add!I have to go out and work again mon. for georgia pac. who grows there own trees AND recycles used cardboard to make new,and I think they are ok as they dont drug test mainly because they know it serves no purpose,but THAT dosnt give us back our beutifull redwoods of n.cal,which have been raped and looted for the last 100 years,THANK GOD they can never touch my wonderfull trees in big sur,which are the most southern big redwoods,I am very bitter about what they have done to nor cal coastal redwoodsCRYING shame!!!!!corporationsARE the gov. and we need to target them!!!!!

Apr 12 2007, 9:51 pm

well thank you both,I wish there was a way we could have a cup of coffee or somthing some day both of you.,Weed will be TOTALY legle some day soon I think!!!!! I have no pains or disablities and cant get a card,and besides I dont want to be a med, provider.Asperin came from a plant and IS a wonder drug,weed will be leagle soon! it has to be,even the tv stations are starting to be for the med. stuff up here,mabey I COULD go to jail and get on tv and score one more canibis,excuse my spelling I only finished the 12th grade!they could explain how my constitutional rights were violated on the web if that happened,Im more worried about my nieghbor,when I walk across my field which I OWN and paid for by doubled up my payments!all with money I got from working with my hands,I havnt recieved any moneys from lawsuits except to cover attorneys fees,which it was no trouble to find willing attornys in eugene to go after these scumbag corporated sheaple they get to run there petty operations.If I could only run a corp. myself I would be satisfied.Thank god Bill Gates smokes weed,There are NO drug test at microsoft.Anyway I can see my niebors electric meter from there,my field and it is spinning one turn a second approx.and he has propane AND wood heat,I just hope he has a card for his sake and is taking any heat I may encounter.thanks,smkabol and keep comunicating,good luck with that all year stuff,wish I could grow on my land and give away more,but I cant

its me

Apr 12 2007, 9:36 pm

Well,Now Im Waiting.........

its me

Apr 12 2007, 9:00 pm

Well All I Can Say Is wh Is That You Need To Move South,But Stay Out Of Humboldt,For Some Reason HUMBOLDT Has Turned Into Little Mexico Of Northen California,I Am Near Mendo And This Is The Spot Man,Our Wheather Is The Best Man,About 40 Miles Inland from The Coast So We Never Get The NASTY FOG/Grey Mold Problems. We Get The High HEAT,Upwords To 110 In The Summer,We Have Plenty Of Water If You Know How To Make Your Own Ponds In The Hills,My Pond Covers About 1 Full Acre And Looks Like A GREAT Fishing Hole But Is Only 3 Foot Deep,Anyways What Do You Mean When We Meet wh? When Is That Going To Be??? I Have a Freind In Salem That Is A Medical Grower And He Tells Me Its Pretty Cool Where Hes At,But I Guess He Got Robbed Back In Jan For His Whole Crop By His Trimmer,How FUCKED UP Is That? Anyways You Should Just Pack Up Your Shit wh And Move To Nor-Cal Baby.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 12 2007, 8:46 pm

Good for you wh, we need more folks like you out there. That is just awesome.

Apr 12 2007, 8:42 pm

all I see here is zip,its me our laws here in oregon are alot different here,you can still go to prison here for weed,I am kind of jealous of your situation there in cali where I was born and lived the first half of my life in ventura co.

Apr 12 2007, 8:38 pm

When we meet its me,at least you will know what I look like with my white hat!!!!that will be sweet!!!!peace and smkabol

Apr 12 2007, 8:36 pm

Our goverment wants to keep weed illeagle to pacify the workers that are scared of it at the same time ENABLEING the ones that want it to easily DEFEAT the piss test by allowing syn. piss to be sold over the internet,people wake up,its all a sham!!!!!!

Apr 12 2007, 8:26 pm

well,I am waiting.....

Apr 12 2007, 8:22 pm

so come on its me,do you think Im full of shit?its true,all of it,smkabol,I am weed hero

Apr 12 2007, 8:18 pm

ok,here it is: I have spent my whole life growing pounds of weed,and going to work for at least ten corperations and being a model worker and GIVING my weed away for free to anyone who wanted some,and a lot of people would take it!!!!!by being honest in my principles and turning in all the alcy managers I have efectivly disrupted their workforces without breaking any laws for sales and have been fired at everyone of them spreading the FACTS about the good things that pot can do.I have won a lot of discrimation lawsuits that were settled out of court. I am a corp.terrorist,a radical and everyone knows me in my comunity,so there you have,I work for you.....smkabol

Apr 12 2007, 8:06 pm

So,you do know who I am and what I look like its me?good,I am still thinking how I can say what I am doing without going to prison,how to word it without incriminating myself......Thinking...smkabol,its me I sence hostillity in your post and I dont like it,didnt mean to start a tiff with you in anyway....peace man,smkabol

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 12 2007, 8:04 pm

I am very interested in who you are. I hope that you decide to tell us because I hate it when someone tells me they have a big juicy secret but, then never reveals what it is.

So, come on and tell us, we're waiting.

its me

Apr 12 2007, 7:05 pm

Whats This wh????If You Have Something To Say Just Say It,Dont Play Games Man.If You Really Want To Be Free Then Start Talking Like You Are,I GROW 216 MARIJUANA PLANTS EVERY YEAR!!!And FUCK ANYBODY WHO THINKS ITS WRONG!!!!And Marc Emery Is a FOOL!!!! He Goes On American T.V. And Says He Sends Seeds Into The U.S. And Says He Has Helped Loads Get Into The States,NOW I KNOW HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT HE WANTS TO BUT WHAT HE HAS SAID HE HAS DONE IS 100% ILLEGAL IN THE STATES,When And If They Get Him On Our Soil He Will Get Royaly FUCKED BY OUR SYSTEM........BUT He Will Only Have Himself To Blame,If You Are Outside Of The U.S.A. And You Say On American T.V. That Your Have And Are Helping American Marijuana Growers Break Federal Laws Then You ARE AND WILL BE FUCKED!!!! I Mean He Had A GREAT Thing Going For Him Until He Challenged The D.E.A. To A Pissing Contest.I Know For A Fact That Those Fucked Can Piss For Ever!!!Anyways Hope Marc Never Lands On Our Soil But He Thinks Hes Some GANJA GURU,Whatever Man.Your Just Another Grower To Me Man.Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough.......Cant Wait To Hear Your Story wh,You Still Wearing That WHITE COWBOY HAT???

Apr 12 2007, 4:11 pm

The truth will set me free!!!!!!

Apr 12 2007, 4:10 pm

Freinds,I will reveal who I am and what I have done,and why I am doing it in the next few days,and why I am called weed hero.I will confess everything and who I really work for,until this point in time,I havnt been able to,now I am deciding how to break the news to the world,but I have been very afraid to,considering what they want to do to Marc Emery.Interested?smkabol

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 12 2007, 11:33 am

Hey, Wh, that was really me. Sorry about the foul language, I was just upset because this fool targeted me for no apparent reason. I'm half way over it now. What can I do about it? Nothing that's what. Oh, well

Hey, Da Kine, we miss you!

Apr 12 2007, 10:22 am

well,pretty much dead out here,where are you,da kind?I dont think im clever,and my scriblings are purely plagierisms!!!!but what if?this is where my mind goes anyway,with or without the weed,Im the way I am.my babies will produce about an oz. apiece approx.smkabol

Apr 12 2007, 12:20 am

you see where this is going>>>> Einstien said:he didnt know how world war 3 would be fought,but he knew how world war four would be fought,WITH STICKS AND STONES!!!!!!!!call me a doomsdayer if you want,but that is where were headed and I believe it has been destroyed and man has developed hundreds of times.( the earth,mankind)smkabol,or not

Apr 12 2007, 12:14 am

The year 2107: In a world named earth,in a country that his brothers all his life how america had been divided long ago and his fathers father had many tales he had told to his young grandson that still filled his head,he was sorry the old man had died recently.Horse did not know his father long as he had died in a border skirmash while in the freedom army,defending the border that divided the north american continent.
It had been ten years,to the day when horses family recieved the sad news.As the border ran north to south and his father was killed in the southern part,there was no way for them to view the remains as they quickly putrified. That was ok by him as the memories of his dad were good ones. Now for some time he had a notion to go to school and learn how to be a healer,medicine giver,but the journey was far,and food was scarce,and had to be collected and preserved for the journey.While he was out one day doing just that he came across a farmers field of marajauna,he thinked they called it,he recalled how his grandfather said that was one of the reasons for the war that divided america,weed.The western part was where horse was from,the eastern part was a nice place to visit now that the border had been stablized and the war was long over. Of course the two sides were friendly now and travel was permited,but never the less the two sides were apart,and kept there borders heavily gaurded.

Horse was frustrated,it was hard to find the small game and mine the salt to preserve it as the sale of salt ileagle,for that matter selling anything was forbiden as there was no such thing as money,he would have to trade for it and no one was willing,it was just easier to make it or mine it himself,as he bent down to sharpen his spear,he noticed somthing red in the dirt beside a rock. He picked it up,yep he recognized it!it was a sacred mushroom with white spots!He k

Apr 11 2007, 11:08 pm

if anyone would like me to whip up a little story just let me know,I have dreamt up a couple of doozies,smkabol

Apr 11 2007, 9:23 pm

nor-cal,dont lower yourself to his level,not used to you using that kind of talk,is that really you? shocking,smkabol

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 11 2007, 7:16 pm

I don't know who this fool is, all I can say is that he must be mad about something. But, I didn't do nothing to nobody, my karma is clear.

Apr 11 2007, 6:02 pm

yes,its 2.56pm,western,im fine its me,my two babies are 5" diamiter and 1 and a half ft. tall at only 5 and a half weeks into flowering with a 600 watt hps hung verticaly beside them,what a trip!!!!!,lots and lots of crystals!!!!!

its me

Apr 11 2007, 5:04 pm

2:02 P.M. West Coast Time Here,Whats Up wh? Who The Fuck Is This Punk Talking Shit About Nor-Cal Smoker? Yeah I Also Believe It To Be Nash/Vash/Bitch-Boy,Fuck You Punk,Nor-Cal Is Cool And You Are A Fool,HaHahHhAhahHHAhahhahAHaHHhhHaHHAhahaHahHHAAHHHahh,Cough,Cough,Cough,COugh,Cough

Apr 11 2007, 4:13 pm

I dont know who this hate monger is butt it sounds like vash to me,who is a little boy,swat,swat!!!I will not post for another hour in case he tries to sign my name,smkabol,what a child!!!!

Apr 11 2007, 4:10 pm

I believe it was Sir Isacc Newton who put a mouse and a plant under glass and watched them survive! four rabbits in your grow room should provide the perfect amount of co-2,as well as poop!,but thats not gonna work outdoors!smkabol

Apr 11 2007, 10:51 am

hello everyone,im back from that stinking mill,did all there welding,done ,am home for a week.I have about a week clean,feel great,I needed a break from the weed,will win my wifes bet no problem,she is menopausle and she quit at the same time but she is coming off it hard,says her whole body hurts and has no energy,But she says she feels a little better every day,does anyone know what to do to make her feel better coming off the weed????? smkabol

its me

Apr 10 2007, 9:01 pm

Your Very Welcome Nor-Cal Smoker,Dont Know Who This Other Fucker Is? Might Just Be Lame Ass Vash/Nash,He Does Pop Back In Every Few Months Or So Just To Talk Smack. Hope You Can Find Your Rabbit Dung,Shouldnt Be That Hard To Find,You rBest Bet Would Be Somewhere In The Valley,Down By FRESNO, I Know They Have Mass Farms Of Every Kind In That Area Of The State,Good Luck.Cough,COugh,cough,Cough,Cough,Cough

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 10 2007, 8:12 pm

Thanks it's me---for the good ideas, that is. I really appreciate it. My dad used to use rabbit poop for his crops when I was younger and he still swears by it but, we have been unable to find enough in the past couple of years. We have use other homemade fertilizers but, would like to try another one with the shit if I can.

its me

Apr 10 2007, 7:30 pm

WOW!!! Where Did That Come From? And How Do You Know Her Fool??

its me

Apr 10 2007, 6:44 pm

Rabbit Shit Huh??? Never Heard Of Anyone Using That,I Would Look Into Rabbit Farms,Just Google Rabbit Farms And You Should Find What Your Looking For,Or You Could Call One Of The High Socity Places That Sell Rabbit Stew And Other Rabbit Meals, I am Sure They Could Give You a # Of Where They Buy There Rabbits And So On,I Bet Within 4 Phone Calls You Will Have What You Are Looking For, I Make My Own Mix Myself,Whats Good About The Rabbit Poo???

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 10 2007, 1:48 pm

I need it for fertilizer.

Nor-Cal Smoler

Apr 10 2007, 1:47 pm

Hey, does anybody in Cali. know where I can get a couple tons of rabbit shit? I am willing to travel to pick it up but, can't find enough of it anywhere around where I live. Any info. would be greatly appreciated.

its me

Apr 10 2007, 2:25 am

Glad To Hear Your Hard AT Work,Wish I Could Give You Some Of These (YR) & The Mothership X Wallberry,Its So Purple Your Looking For The Green Spots, Anyways I Am Getting really Tierd,I Think I Am Going To Go To Ya-Hoo To Play Some Nuckle Then Off The La-La Land,Hope Your Crop Is A Great One.Cough,Cough,Cough,cOugh

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 9 2007, 11:52 pm

I just put 80 outside this past weekend. And will start about 40-60 indoor plants on the 20th. Superstisious, I guess. Things are looking good.

its me

Apr 9 2007, 7:38 pm

Hey Nor-Cal Smoker,Are Your Ladies Outside Yet?I Have Been Very Hard At Work In The Last Week,Have Moved About 4 Tons Of Soil So Far,My Girls Are About 2-4 ft. And The Year Rounds Are Looking GREAT. They Have Been Up For About 30 Days Now,I Should Start Seeing Flowers Soon,Cough,Cough,COugh,Cough,cough

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 9 2007, 1:17 pm

I live close to Lake Tahoe, but not too close because the weather is a little better down the hill.

mendomaddness

Apr 9 2007, 12:31 pm

nor-cal smoker what county u live in.its all about the mendo green

SorToro Times

Apr 8 2007, 10:45 pm

Nothing is going to happen 25 and spotless record the judge is going to throw case out probally comunity service

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 8 2007, 11:35 am

Yeah, I didn't get to sleep in at all the kids were up before 7a.m. Oh well, it only happens a couple times a year right?

smokey m3

Apr 8 2007, 10:13 am

so u got the short end of it. u will be ok it is not that big.have the wife with u at court. oh and some money so u can get bailed out of jail.sorry for your luck. BUT GOOD LUCK.

da kine

Apr 8 2007, 8:39 am

Thanks Nor-Cal. Happy easter everyone. I'm sure that any of you with kids aren't sleeping in today. Well I have to work today so I'm off for a while. Enjoy today's feasts everyone. late

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 7 2007, 11:31 pm

HAPPY EASTER, STONERS!!! HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY!!!

88mm

Apr 5 2007, 11:59 pm

Looking back on it now, getting stopped at the border was as inevitable as a smoker's cough.

The night had started off reasonable enough, inhaling some smoke with the friend of a friend.

With clouded judgment that was obscured by the buzz, we decided to go North for a night on the town.

Being told to pull over and come inside to talk to the Border Patrol was the jolt that we should have seen coming. At any rate, everyone was too high to come down for any reason at all. Still, we kept our cool.

After background checks were completed on everyone, and a cursory interview recorded with each individual, we were granted permission to enter the country.

Throwing caution to the weed, most smoked up as we reached our destination. The night of a life happened for some.

As we crossed the border later to go back home, all of us were pulled out of the car and strip searched while they found the bud, the weapon, and the pipe. You haven't lived until you have had a cop grab your nuts at 2 in the morning.

Lessons were learned that night, the most important one being this: No matter how high you get, keep your composure and you may get out of it yet.

mendomaddness

Apr 5 2007, 3:13 pm

what state do u happen to live in? i live in nortern cali and if that happend to someone around here it whouldn't even make it passed the D.A it would mostlikely be thrown out or a petty fine. But if u live in cali it is really easy to obtain a 215 card and when u went back to court it whould all be droped

da kine

Apr 4 2007, 9:35 pm

SPIKE

Apr 4 2007, 6:44 pm

the angle of the dangle is equal to the heat of the meat which is proportional to the motion of the ocean!=undulation!!!!!!!mental masterbation,I love it,good job wh!!!!

Apr 4 2007, 4:42 pm

I have to admit that it looks a lot better than some of the other crap left here,well thank you,nor-cal

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 4 2007, 2:23 pm

Nice story WH!! I like it!

Apr 4 2007, 2:03 pm

Once upon a time there was a man who created his own country within america,he did this by hard work,he saved his money, earning it with sweat and toil,being most frugal he saved mostly what he earned for years,yes,ten years stashing his money in the form of gold not in any banks,but in the ground. Then when he felt he had enough capital,he just started buying low,selling high,everthing he could.,weed,anything.He had people working for him in no time and there numbers grew one hundred fold,not one of them knew him,or knew who he was,but he knew who his workers were and what they were doing.He used discises,viels and notes left in places to command his people,they did not mind as he payed well.He amassed such a large sum of wealth and loyal followers that he was able to hire lawyers for his people that got caught,influence the goverment which he despised,to set them free,thus nullifing the represed goverment stupid laws.His people loved him,though they did not know him,just that he had really,really good weed weed.the end,smkabol,im down to a shitty roach a day of bunk leaves and this is where my mind is,going back to work fri. after two weeks off.my story is about what the goverment calls a drug ring.

Andrew

Apr 3 2007, 5:44 pm

ohio has unsrict laws for marijuana! but were do u live?

important question

Apr 3 2007, 5:36 pm

This is off topic, but I was wondering if anyone knows which state has the least strict weed laws for possession and distribution? Is it Vermont, New Hampshire or another state? Please post. Thanks

kopkilla

Apr 3 2007, 5:34 pm

yo nigs my eyes be rollin like i just smoked a bowl of widow after reading that bullshit from "cont" or what ever be the fuck his name i dont know i'm goin bak to my bong. peace out whitebreadz

The High Canadian

Apr 3 2007, 3:00 am

Hey guys, haha been a while.. how goes everything these days?

Finally my planning is soon under way to reap the rewards of the long wait, getting the posters made on the weekend most likely, got some donations going from some local headshops and the like, things are looking good.

What have ya's been up to these days?

in my off time when im not studying or trying to organize this stuff, i've been drawn to the "conspiracy" of 9/11. I have watched several documentaries and picked up this book, and its very interesting, have any of you read about the 9/11 conspiracy? I was a little scared when i first watched the documentaries, its crazy that this could very well be.

well have a good night all,

Always,
THC

Apr 3 2007, 12:20 am

also ive heard of big bud,a bc strain made with n.lites trippy sounding stuff,ah,tapering off,down to a joint of leaves a day.

Apr 3 2007, 12:17 am

yes,nor cal,I think so,but we call it berry-berry and it smells like black berrys,but it was a pain in the ass,low yield stuff and I am sure it was my fault,but at the time all I had to work with was seeds produced from accidental hermes from this dude,anyway I still got some seeds but I dont like the stuff.dr. atomic still has this berry-berry stuff,it was very popular 10 yrs ago.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Apr 2 2007, 6:26 pm

Has anybody grown the "BB" strain? Was told it stands for either "Blue Barrel" or "Big Bud". Wandering if it is any good and if it grows well outdoors. Any info. greatly appreciated. THANKS!

da kine

Apr 2 2007, 9:07 am

Shit, another monday..............can't we just do away with mondays. Maybe there is a pill out there that skips over mondays when you take it. Time to go to work after a great weekend off. Hey wh, good luck with your six month cleansing! I'm starting to agree with you all about this guy being in jail. Why hasn't he answered, it's been a week or so right? Maybe it's just a quick story whipped up by the HT staff to keep us busy. Either way it raises points and makes for good conversation. I hope you all have a great week. Back to the grind........cough cough. late

Apr 2 2007, 2:19 am

I believe there are people that make a good living just by suing employers! try it,it will take a long time but discrimination is a good one,just let it out that you like weed and then when your boss comes up with a dumb reason to can you,then sue them,you could possibly sue three or four of them at the same time,you would have to be in cahoots with a lawyer,mmmmmmmmmmm,thinking this would make a good movie,use all the money for PRO pot adds mmmmmmm thinkingmmmm,,,smkabolive made a bet with my wife,no weed for 6 months!guess I can do it,I have before.mmmmmmmmmph

Smokin In MN

Apr 1 2007, 4:26 pm

You had a alarm and the police were responding to your alarm, you by having the alarm gave them indirect permission to respond to the alarm and secure your premises. You fucked yourself by having a alarm, get a good lawyer and take a plea. First offense with a few plants will probably get probation.

DCfromNJ

Apr 1 2007, 12:07 pm

Get your own lawyer.

Those public pretenders work for the prosecutor's office and will make sure you get time and alot of it.

You need to find a big time pot attorney in your area and maybe he will not charge you so much because of the love of the herb.

Do not use a public pretender or you will get hard time and stiff fines , so your gonna pay either way make sure it is to a good lawyer!!

Mar 31 2007, 4:39 pm

people of the world:you cant hide from good weed,its coming to a town near you!stop fighting it,weed will be VERY trendy very soon as all the old fossils are dying!gone with the old ways,pot the ALTERNITIVE to booze,bla,bla,bla,hahahahah!!!!!smkabol!!!

river runner

Mar 31 2007, 1:49 pm

Yup - Must a been a combination of the Good Sweet Sticky Soil Grown Buds and endless cups of Coffee and the need for knowledge,i have a life don't worry,hahah.anyways i guess i did get carried away,i guess i could have SUMMERIEZED it i just felt it was all valuable info - (it is a separate case),something i found posted on the Enet while surfin around.anyways sorry for such a long post if it made yer eyes bleed.you gotta admit it had more info than the busted letter given,with conclusion,(if homie who wrote busted letter shows up and reads some of that it might help him).Wheres is homie anyways? if your up shits creek,stand strong brother-man -they will not own you FOREVER!...Peace~Mon.

Mar 31 2007, 12:06 pm

hes a long windwd bastard,!!!! I can say it with two words,your screwed!!!! its me,they got him dead to rights,geting a lawyer is good,but dont try to fight them,itll be worse,so make a deal!! just make sure youHIRE a good lawyer,not a public defender,and try to cut a deal!!!!!!your guilty.

da kine

Mar 31 2007, 10:03 am

Morning everyone. Finally, a weekend. I hope all is well for you guys. Is that case a separate one or is it this one here?

88mm

Mar 31 2007, 2:42 am

uh, that's cut and paste...

da kine

Mar 30 2007, 8:42 pm

Oh.............my eyeballs are bleeding.

its me

Mar 30 2007, 5:13 pm

Looks Like Somebody Needs a Life,What Did You Type 10,000 Words.You Could Have Just Got To The Point,Or Like Nor-Cal Said "SUMMARIZED" It Up Some. Anyways My Trip To The City Went GREAT!!!Will Tell You All About It Later,Got To Go For Now............Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough,COugh

Nor-Cal Smoker

Mar 30 2007, 4:04 pm

good info. but, couldn't you have summarized or left a web address for the rest of us to check it out? It's almost information overload to try and read all of this.

somthingIfoundsurfinEnet

Mar 30 2007, 2:39 pm

Starts at the bottom - then scroll upward to each paragraph untill you get here..

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Mar 30 2007, 2:35 pm

[6] We assume, without deciding, that the "new" evidence was within the government's control and potentially subject to disclosure. But see infra Section II.B.4 (noting that government did disclose essential information, later reiterated in Lemieux affidavit, at pretrial suppression hearing).
[7] As noted above, see supra p. 4, Tibolt not only challenges the pretrial determination that Palazzola's warrantless search was valid, but cites Franks v. Delaware as authority for a direct challenge to the subsequent search warrant , which was premised entirely on the fruits of the earlier warrantless search. A defendant is not entitled to a Franks evidentiary hearing, however, absent a "substantial preliminary showing (1) that a false statement [or material omission] in the affidavit [supporting the search warrant application] has been made knowingly and intentionally, and (2) that the false statement [or material omission] is necessary for a finding of probable cause." United States v. Scalia , 993 F.2d 984, 987 (1st Cir. 1993) ( citing United States v. Rumney , 867 F.2d 714, 720 (1st Cir.), cert. denied , 491 U.S. 908

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Mar 30 2007, 2:34 pm

892-93 (Mass. Ct. App. 1990) (invalidating search where police did not even suspect an ongoing crime, but were merely investigating a "missing person" report, after waiting over three hours before investigating missing person's apartment); State v. Morgavi , 794 P.2d 1289, 1292-93 (Wash. Ct. App. 1990) (invalidating search based on police observation of "a car in front of the garage, opened and partially broken doors to the garage, an open back door to the house and an open side door to the garage," but distinguishing cases where "the police were summoned to the premises by concerned neighbors who had witnessed the burglaries and the flight of suspects"). We think it clear that the activation of an alarm system is an external "sign" of a possible forced entry.
[5] Although the Dombrowski residence bore a "JK Security" sticker, and the Tibolt residence an "ADT Security" sticker, there was no evidence that Palazzola had been informed by the dispatcher that JK Security had reported the alarm. Further, while dispatchers sometimes write the name of the reporting security company on the incident cards, see infra Section II.B., the investigating officers do not receive these cards for completion until after their investigation of the alarm report. In any event, Tibolt has not raised this matter. See supra note 3.

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Mar 30 2007, 2:34 pm

[4] Tibolt cites cases involving various external indicia of a "break," see , e.g. , Commonwealth v. Fiore , 403 N.E.2d 953, 955 (Mass. Ct. App.) (upholding warrantless search where outer door found broken off hinges), cert. denied , 449 U.S. 938 (1980), but no alarm system activation . See Erickson , 991 F.2d at 530, 533 (noting that government, on appeal, had conceded that no "exigent circumstances" had been shown, given the absence of any activated security alarm; no visible sign of forced entry; witness reports that suspected burglars had departed area 30 minutes before police officers' arrival; and officers' failure to "knock and announce" before entry); United States v. Moss , 963 F.2d 673, 677, 679 (4th Cir. 1992) (invalidating search because "the Government has formally conceded that this is not an 'exigent-circumstances case' and does not seek to uphold the search here on that basis," given that police officer observed "no [external] indication that any illegal occupant was inside" the cabin); Commonwealth v. Bates , 548 N.E.2d 889,

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Mar 30 2007, 2:33 pm

[3] On appeal, Tibolt asserts no direct challenge to the objective "reasonableness" of Palazzola's putative mistake -- purportedly caused by the juxtaposition of the Dombrowski mailbox and the entrance to Tibolt's second driveway -- in investigating the Tibolt residence, instead of Dombrowski's, for a burglary in progress. Rather, he questions only whether Palazzola, despite his protestations to the contrary, knowingly used this fortuitous circumstance as a pretext for conducting a warrantless search for drugs as part of an ongoing task force investigation targeting the Tibolt residence. The only evidence of such a ruse, however, was presented in his post-conviction motion. See infra Section II.B. At the pretrial hearing, the inquiry into Palazzola's state of mind necessarily turned, for the most part, on the trial court's observation of Palazzola's demeanor, and its credibility determination, matters uniquely within the province of the trier of fact. United States v. Zapata , 18 F.3d 971, 975 (1st Cir. 1994).

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Mar 30 2007, 2:33 pm

FOOTNOTES
[1]
The warrant application related the following grounds: (1) an intrusion alarm was reported by J.K. Systems to the Gloucester Police Department; (2) Officers Palazzola and Williams responded to the alarm report and found a door open; (3) the officers entered the home to check the premises for intruders; and (4) a marijuana-growing facility was found in the cellar.
[2] The government would have us characterize this warrantless entry as a so-called "community caretaker" search, a warrant exception applicable to searches "totally divorced from the detection, investigation, or acquisition of evidence relating to the violation of a criminal statute." Cady v. Dombrowski , 413 U.S. 433, 441 , 447-48 (1973). In light of our alternative disposition, we need not consider the "community caretaker" exception. But see id. at 439 (noting "constitutional difference" between search of home and search of automobile); see also United States v. Bute , 43 F.3d 531, 535 (10th Cir. 1994) (reading Cady as applying only to searches of automobiles, not homes); Erickson , 991 F.2d at 532 (same); United States v. Pichany , 687 F.2d 204, 209 (7th Cir. 1982) (same).

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Mar 30 2007, 2:31 pm

We discern no principled basis for treating the Franks claim differently than Tibolt's direct challenge to the warrantless search. To the extent the "new" evidence underlying the Franks hearing request was available prior to trial (i.e., the Lemieux affidavit) by the exercise of due diligence, Tibolt's post-trial Franks request based on that evidence is untimely. See supra Section II.B.4. The marginal probative value of the incident cards in undercutting Palazzola's pretrial testimony is insufficient, by itself, to support a " substantial preliminary showing" that the evidence, if disclosed, would have altered the decision that there was probable cause to issue a search warrant. See supra Section II.B.3; see also , e.g. , United States v. Hiveley , 61 F.3d 1358, 1360 (8th Cir. 1995) (noting that "the 'substantial showing' requirement needed to obtain a Franks hearing is not lightly met").
The district court judgment is affirmed .
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Mar 30 2007, 2:31 pm

In all events, we need not rest our decision solely on the "credibility" ground, since the district court found also -- with respect to the information in the Lemieux affidavit -- that Tibolt had not met the first two prongs of the Ortiz test. See Natanel , 938 F.2d at 313 (failure to establish any of the four Ortiz factors defeats motion for new trial). The court further found that Tibolt had not shown that this "new" evidence was either unknown or unavailable at the time of the pretrial suppression hearing, nor that Tibolt had exercised due diligence to discover the evidence earlier. See Tibolt , 868 F. Supp. at 382 ("What is more, the government proffered at the suppression hearing the fact that Tibolt's home had been the subject of a local drug investigation before the search, and made available to Tibolt one of the officers involved in that investigation for questioning."). At the pretrial suppression hearing, moreover, the government disclosed to the defense that Officer Williams participated in a previous task force surveillance of the Tibolt residence, and that "at that time there were some reports of possible drug activities involving that house." (Emphasis added.) This disclosure certainly should have alerted Tibolt to the probability that an informant was involved. Yet Tibolt failed to pursue information relating to whether the warrantless search of July 27, 1992 was a mere "ruse" designed to fabricate a showing of probable cause. Since the finding that Tibolt failed to exercise due diligence was not clearly erroneous, see Zapata , 18 F.2d at 975, he may not rely on this evidence to mount a renewed attack on the warrantless search or the search warrant application. [7] (1989)).

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Mar 30 2007, 2:27 pm

3. The Incident Cards
We cannot say that the district court ruling constituted a manifest abuse of discretion. The district court found, inter alia , that the police incident reports would not suffice to undermine Officer Palazzola's credibility; hence, were not likely to result in an acquittal. Tibolt , 868 F. Supp. at 382. Nor are we persuaded that Palazzola perjured himself at the suppression hearing. Rather, he testified simply that he could not remember having been at the Dombrowski residence prior to July 27, 1992. In fact, the incident cards show that he was sent there on but one occasion -- three years before the pretrial suppression hearing. Further, this incident card did not even compel the conclusion that Palazzola went to, or secured, the Dombrowski residence on that prior occasion . Thus, the district court was entitled to find that the incident cards did not undermine Palazzola's claimed lack of memory. Cf. Natanel , 938 F.2d at 313 (noting somewhat lesser burden on new-trial movant where evidence shows witness's prior testimony was "deliberately false"). Given their marginal direct probative value, we cannot say that the incident cards alone were sufficient to generate a "reasonable" probability that Tibolt would be acquitted upon retrial. Cf . Sepulveda , 15 F.3d at 1220 n.5 (noting that newly discovered evidence pertaining exclusively to a government witness's credibility rarely warrants new trial). 4. The Lemieux Affidavit

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Mar 30 2007, 2:26 pm

2. Standard of Review
The denial of a motion for new trial is reviewed only for manifest abuse of discretion. See United States v. Wright , 625 F.2d 1017, 1019 (1st Cir. 1980). The instant motion for new trial triggers a two-tier inquiry. First, to the extent the "new" evidence pertains to the disposition of the pretrial motion to suppress financial records, wherein the district court was the trier of fact, Tibolt confronts the daunting task of demonstrating that the district court committed clear error in determining that the "new" evidence would not have altered its pretrial factual findings. Zapata , 18 F.3d at 975 (noting that factual findings and credibility determinations relating to suppression issues are normally for the trier of fact). Second, Tibolt must show that the "new" evidence would so undermine the government's case as to give rise to a "reasonable" probability of acquittal upon retrial. Sepulveda , 15 F.3d at 1220. [6]

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Mar 30 2007, 2:04 pm

even if there is less than an even chance that the evidence would produce an acquittal. After all, if the evidence is close and the penalty significant, one might think that undisclosed evidence creating (for example) a 33 percent chance of a different result would undermine one's confidence in the result. And while Bagley appears to give little weight to other factors--such as the degree of fault on the prosecutor's part and the specificity of the defense request--it is not entirely clear that these variables must be ignored.
United States v. Sepulveda , 15 F.3d 1216, 1220 (1st Cir. 1993), cert. denied , 114 S. Ct. 2714 (1994).

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Mar 30 2007, 2:03 pm

1. Substantive Law
A motion for new trial based on newly discovered evidence will not be allowed unless the movant establishes that the evidence was: (i) unknown or unavailable at the time of trial, (ii) despite due diligence, (iii) material, and (iv) likely to result in an acquittal upon retrial. United States v. Ortiz , 23 F.3d 21, 27 (1st Cir. 1994); United States v. Natanel , 938 F.2d 302, 313 (1st Cir. 1991), cert. denied , 502 U.S. 1079 (1992). If, however, the "new" evidence was within the government's control and its disclosure was withheld, the third and fourth criteria are less stringent:
The usual locution, taken from Justice Blackmun's opinion in Bagley , [ 473 U.S. 667 (1985)], is that the nondisclosure justifies a new trial if it is "material," it is "material" only if there is "a reasonable probability" that the evidence would have changed the result, and a "reasonable probability" is "a probability sufficient to undermine confidence in the outcome." Id. at 682. . . . This somewhat delphic "undermine confidence" formula suggests that [a] reversal [and a remand for new trial] might be warranted in some cases

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Mar 30 2007, 2:02 pm

B. Motion for New Trial We turn now to the district court ruling denying a new trial. Tibolt contends that the "newly discovered" Gloucester Police "incident cards" and the Lemieux affidavit support a rational inference that Officer Palazzola committed perjury at the suppression hearing, in explaining that the misleading placement of the Dombrowski mailbox at the opening of the second Tibolt driveway, and his own unfamiliarity with the two residences, had caused him to go to the Tibolt residence to investigate the reported alarm at the Dombrowski residence. Tibolt maintains that the incident cards show that Palazzola had been to the Dombrowski residence at least once before and, therefore, should have recognized his mistake on this occasion. Further, he argues, the Lemieux affidavit suggests that Palazzola's "mistake" was actually part of an elaborate, conspiratorial ruse, manufactured by the Gloucester Police task force to enable a warrantless search of the Tibolt residence for drugs. Cf. Curzi , 867 F.2d at 43 n. 6 (noting that police may not justify warrantless search by manipulating events to generate "exigency"). Finally, in the affidavit supporting the search warrant application submitted on July 27, 1992 -- presumably premised solely on the fruits of the warrantless search -- the police failed to disclose their prior investigations of the Tibolt residence for suspected drug activities. Tibolt insists that the failure to disclose the prior investigations of the residence constituted a "clear violation" of Franks v. Delaware , 438 U.S. 154 (1978).

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Mar 30 2007, 2:01 pm

was an imminent risk "to the lives or safety of the public," Hegarty , 53 F.3d at 1374, or to an injured or immobilized resident. See , e.g. , Murdock v. Stout , 54 F.3d 1437, 1443 (9th Cir. 1995) (upholding warrantless search of residence following burglary report, where investigating officers found some signs that resident might have been at home when an intruder entered dwelling, and received no response to their calls, thereby creating a "fair probability that . . . a resident might be in need of assistance") (distinguishing prior circuit precedent in United States v. Erickson , 991 F.2d 529 (9th Cir. 1993)). Accordingly, the district court did not err in denying the motion to suppress.

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Mar 30 2007, 2:00 pm

For similar reasons, we conclude that Palazzola was presented with "exigent circumstances" permitting an immediate warrantless entry. Without entering, he could not know but what an intruder had managed to get into the residence, and even injured or captured a resident, then fled; or had been caught off guard by the police and remained in the residence with a forcibly detained resident. Even the authorities cited by Tibolt acknowledge the potential exigencies attending such circumstances. See Erickson , 991 F.2d at 533 ("In a wide variety of contexts, this and other circuits have upheld warrantless searches conducted during burglary investigations under the rubric of exigent circumstances."); Commonwealth v. Fiore , 403 N.E.2d 953, 955 (Mass. Ct. App.) ("It seems clear to us that a house break without more as set out in the affidavit raises the possibility of danger to an occupant and of the continued presence of an intruder and indicates the need to secure the premises. In such circumstances �(t)he right of the police to enter and investigate in an emergency without the accompanying intent to either search or arrest is inherent in the very nature of their duties as peace officers.'") (citation omitted), cert. denied , 449 U.S. 938 (1980)). Hindsight discloses, of course, that Palazzola was mistaken. Nevertheless, at the time , see Rodriguez , 497 U.S. at 186 , an officer confronted with these circumstances reasonably could have concluded that there

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Mar 30 2007, 1:55 pm

A security alarm had been activated, and when JK Security placed a call to the Dombrowski residence, it had received no answer. [4] These circumstances severely undercut any likelihood that the security alarm had been activated inadvertently by a resident. Moreover, upon his arrival approximately ten minutes later , Palazzola checked all windows and doors at the Tibolt residence. [5] Instead of finding all doors secured, as one might reasonably expect while the residents are away, he found an unlocked door on the rear deck and received no response to his efforts to communicate with anyone who might be inside. These circumstances significantly enhanced the likelihood of an intruder.

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Mar 30 2007, 1:53 pm

2. Standard of Review
As mixed questions of law and fact, the "probable cause" and "exigent circumstances" determinations require bifurcated review: whether a particular set of circumstances gave rise to "probable cause" or "exigent circumstances" is reviewed de novo and findings of fact are reviewed for clear error. United States v. Goldman , 41 F.3d 785, 786 (1st Cir. 1994) (probable cause), cert. denied , 115 S. Ct. 1321 (1995); United States v. Gooch , 6 F.3d 673, 678 (9th Cir. 1993) (exigent circumstances). Where, as here, there are no explicit factual findings, the record below is assessed in the light most favorable to the trial court ruling. See United States v. Baldacchino , 762 F.2d 170, 176 (1st Cir. 1985).
3. Application of Law
Tibolt does not challenge the factual findings implicit in the district court ruling, given that the evidence most central to the ruling -- the police descriptions relating to the alarm report, the locations of the mailboxes, the unlocked door -- is undisputed. [3] Moreover, these implicit findings unquestionably support the challenged legal conclusion that Officer Palazzola had probable cause to believe a breaking and entering had been or was being committed at the Tibolt residence.

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Mar 30 2007, 1:53 pm

Exigent circumstances exist where law enforcement officers confront a "compelling necessity for immediate action that w[ould] not brook the delay of obtaining a warrant." United States v. Wilson , 36 F.3d 205, 209 (1st Cir. 1994) (citing United States v. Adams , 621 F.2d 41, 44 (1st Cir. 1980)); United States v. Almonte , 952 F.2d 20, 22 (1st Cir. 1991), cert. denied , 503 U.S. 1010 (1992). Although "exigency" determinations invariably are fact-intensive, see United States v. Donlin , 982 F.2d 31, 34 (1st Cir. 1992), "exigent circumstances" commonly include: "(1) �hot pursuit' of a fleeing felon; (2) threatened destruction of evidence inside a residence before a warrant can be obtained; (3) a risk that the suspect may escape from the residence undetected; or (4) a threat, posed by a suspect, to the lives or safety of the public, the police officers, or to [an occupant]." Hegarty , 53 F.3d at 1374. The "exigent circumstances" inquiry is limited to the objective facts reasonably known to, or discoverable by, the officers at the time of the search. See Illinois v. Rodriguez , 497 U.S. 177, 186 (1990) (upholding warrantless search where police officers reasonably, but mistakenly, believed they had obtained valid "third-party consent" to search residence from person with authority to consent) (citing Archibald v. Mosel , 677 F.2d 5 (1st Cir. 1982) (invoking "good faith" principle under "exigent circumstances" exception)).

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Mar 30 2007, 1:52 pm

Probable cause will be found to have been present if the officers at the scene collectively possessed reasonably trustworthy information sufficient to warrant a prudent policeman in believing that a criminal offense had been or was being committed. See Hegarty v. Somerset Cty. , 53 F.3d 1367, 1374 (1st Cir. 1995), cert. denied , No. 95-629, 1995 WL 625553 (U.S. Dec. 11, 1995); United States v. Zurosky , 614 F.2d 779, 784 n.2 (1st Cir. 1979) (finding probable cause where police investigated possible "breaking and entering" at warehouse), cert. denied , 446 U.S. 967 (1980) (citing Brinegar v. United States , 338 U.S. 160, 175-76 (1949)). "In dealing with probable cause, . . . as the very name implies, we deal with probabilities. These are not technical; they are the factual and practical considerations of everyday life on which reasonable and prudent men, not legal technicians, act." Illinois v. Gates , 462 U.S. 213, 231 (1983).

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Mar 30 2007, 1:51 pm

DISCUSSION
A. Motion to Suppress
Tibolt first challenges the district court's pretrial denial of the motion to suppress the primary evidence of money laundering: the financial records seized from his residence on July 27, 1992. He contends that there was no objectively reasonable basis for believing that a life-threatening burglary was in progress, even assuming that Officer Palazzola reasonably had mistaken the Tibolt residence for the Dombrowski residence. But see infra Section II.B. And he argues that inspection of the exterior of the Tibolt residence revealed no signs of forcible entry, and no open windows or doors. See Brief for Appellant at 27-29 (citing United States v. Erickson , 991 F.2d 529 (9th Cir. 1993) (suppressing evidence seized in warrantless search of residence where officers investigating burglar alarm observed no indication of forced entry)).
1. Substantive Law
A warrantless search of a private residence is presumptively unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment. See Payton v. New York , 445 U.S. 573, 586 (1980). The government therefore must prove that the initial search came within some recognized exception to the Fourth Amendment warrant requirement. See United States v. Doward , 41 F.3d 789, 791 (1st Cir. 1994), cert. denied , 115 S. Ct. 1716 (1995). Generally speaking, absent probable cause and exigent circumstances the Fourth Amendment bars warrantless, nonconsensual entries of private residences. See United States v. Curzi , 867 F.2d 36, 41 (1st Cir. 1989). [2]

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Mar 30 2007, 1:50 pm

. has provided information that led to the arrest and indictment of one William Tibolt . In the investigation the informant provided detailed information in regard to the location of an indoor growing operation that Mr. Tibolt had in his home. The informant provided the name, address as well as other persons that were involved in the marijuana growing operation. The informants [sic] also described the home and the interior as well as a room in the center of the basement that [sic] the growing operation was being conducted. (Emphasis added.)
But for the fact that it contains no indication as to the timing of the events described in it, the Lemieux affidavit might conflict with the affidavit submitted in support of the search warrant application of July 27, 1992, see supra note 1, which described JK Security's call to the Gloucester Police Department, the police response, and the officers' unexpected discovery of marijuana in the Tibolt basement. After hearing, the district court denied the motion for new trial. United States v. Tibolt , 868 F. Supp. 380, 381-83 (D. Mass. 1994).
II

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Mar 30 2007, 1:49 pm

Following the verdict, Tibolt moved for a new trial on the ground that he had uncovered "new" evidence relating to the suppression motion which would (1) impeach Palazzola's suppression hearing testimony, (2) suggest that the Gloucester Police deliberately planned to search the Tibolt residence, and (3) demonstrate a Franks v. Delaware , 438 U.S. 154, 155-56 (1978), violation. Gloucester Police Department "incident cards," which record the time, date, desk officer, and location of police assignments, disclosed that officers had been called to Old Salem Path on at least fourteen prior occasions to investigate security alarms. The cards reflect that there were three calls to "13 Old Salem Path" and ten others to "Old Salem Path." One card, dating from 1990, indicates that Officer Joseph Palazzola had been sent to the Dombrowski residence to investigate a security alarm. And two cards indicate that a desk officer with the initials "J.P." had dispatched other officers to "Old Salem Path." In addition, an affidavit by Officer Theodore Lemieux, dated January 27, 199 4 -- the day after the Tibolt suppression hearing -- and submitted in support of a search warrant application in an unrelated criminal proceeding, stated that
an informant-

somethinIfoundsurfinEnet

Mar 30 2007, 1:46 pm

Palazzola promptly called for backup, and Officer Thomas Williams arrived within five minutes. Williams likewise drove to the Tibolt residence rather than the Dombrowski residence, because he saw Palazzola's squad car parked next to the Tibolt residence. Williams immediately recognized the Tibolt residence as having been the target of a prior investigation by a Gloucester Police drug task force in which he had participated. Williams was unsure, however, whether the target (viz., Tibolt) of the task force investigation still owned the residence, or whether it was still under investigation for drug-related activities.
Palazzola and Williams decided to make an immediate warrantless entry through the unlocked rear door, then looked about for possible explanations for the alarm (e.g., any occupants, a burglar, "whatever"). Their search was limited in scope, eschewing drawers, cabinets and containers. The officers "secured" each room, to rule out the presence of intruders, captives, or injured occupants. After sweep-searching the upper floors, the officers discovered a well-established marijuana growing facility in the basement, then left to obtain a search warrant. [1] Later, armed with a warrant, the officers searched the Tibolt premises and seized incriminating financial records which Tibolt subsequently sought to suppress on the ground that the search warrant was invalid because the evidence relied on in the supporting affidavit was itself the fruit of the earlier warrantless search. After hearing, the district court denied the motion to suppress, without elaboration.

somethingIfoundsurfinEnet

Mar 30 2007, 1:44 pm

I
BACKGROUND
Around mid-morning on July 27, 1992, a security alarm activated in the Dombrowski residence located at 13 Old Salem Path in Gloucester, Massachusetts. As the security alarm company -- JK Security -- was unable to make telephone contact with the Dombrowski residence to determine whether the alarm had been set off accidentally, it telephoned the Gloucester Police to report the alarm. Officer Joseph Palazzola was dispatched to investigate the alarm report at the Dombrowski residence, which is next door to the Tibolt residence at 11 Old Salem Path.
Both residences are set well back from Old Salem Path and largely concealed from view. Two driveways -- separated by a tree and some shrubbery -- lead to the Tibolt home. The Tibolt mailbox -- bearing "11 Old Salem Path" -- is located immediately to the right of the first Tibolt driveway. The Dombrowski mailbox -- marked "dombrowski 13" -- is located a few feet left of the second Tibolt driveway, more than 60 feet before the driveway entrance to the Dombrowski residence at 13 Old Salem Path.
Upon observing the mailbox marked "13," Officer Palazzola mistakenly entered the second driveway to the Tibolt residence. He checked the exterior of the residence for signs of an attempted break, or burglary in progress. Although he noted no signs of forced entry, Palazzola found an unlocked door on the rear deck. He opened the door and called inside to alert any occupant, but received no response. Given that the police had been requested to investigate the alarm, that a door was unlocked, and that Palazzola had been unable to make contact with anyone inside the house, he reasoned that the alarm might not have been activated accidentally.

somethingIfoundsurfinEnet

Mar 30 2007, 1:40 pm

FOR THE FIRST CIRCUIT
No. 94-2221
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Appellee,
v.
WILLIAM R. TIBOLT,
Defendant, Appellant.
ERRATA SHEET
The opinion of this Court issued on December 29, 1995, is amended as follows:
Page 10, line 6, should read: ". . . at the Tibolt residence."
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE FIRST CIRCUIT
No. 94-2221
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Appellee,
v.
WILLIAM R. TIBOLT,
Defendant, Appellant.
APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS
[Hon. William G. Young, U.S. District Judge ]
Selya, Circuit Judge ,
Coffin, Senior Circuit Judge ,
and Cyr, Circuit Judge .
Anthony M. Cardinale , with whom Nicholas J. DiMauro and Law Offices of Anthony M. Cardinale were on brief for appellant.
William C. Brown , Attorney, Appellate Division, Department of Justice, with whom Donald K. Stern , United States Attorney, was on brief for appellee.
December 29, 1995
CYR, Circuit Judge . Following his conviction on a money laundering charge, 18 U.S.C. � 1956, in the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts, William Tibolt appeals two trial court rulings relating to incriminating financial records seized from his residence in a warrantless search. Finding no error, we affirm.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Mar 30 2007, 11:01 am

Good Morning!!! Glad today is Friday!

river runner

Mar 30 2007, 10:01 am

☻ ♫♫♪♪♫♫♫♫♪♪♪♫♫♫♫♪♪♪♫ ☺

river runner

Mar 30 2007, 9:55 am

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 river runner

Mar 30 2007, 9:53 am



bill

Mar 30 2007, 6:22 am

i only wonder how many more generations, years and days are the goverment destroying another natural resource..

river runner

Mar 29 2007, 9:28 pm

If you like reggae and you like "Lee Scratch Perry" - check out this web site www.blackark.com,Click on the YouTube video - Cool vibes,Good sounds,One Cool Brother - the radio station puts out non-stop Jams good Gardening/working music.The English guy in the beginning of video makes me laugh with his question and facial expression.Yup i know how it feels to burn that much weed.Ahhhhhhhhhh what a feeling late night bomb fire surprise.Come to think of it my freind said the same thing to me sorta the same way like WoW doouude did you just do that.AHAHAH - YUP - LET FREEDOM RING! Free the Weed give the people what they need,we would be such a happier society.LEGALIZE....

its me

Mar 29 2007, 2:20 pm

I Agree With You On That One Nor-Cal Smoker,Jimmy Does Sound Like a Real Idiot,We All Should Be Able To Grow All The Herb We Want,And FUCK A PLEE DEAL,The Only Deal Worth Taking Is ALL CHARGES DROPED,Or Its 12 In a Box Time.And You Just May Be Right Nor-Cal,This Guy May Already Be In The Can,Since He Has'nt Even Answered ANY Of Our Questions???? Anyways Have To Drive Down To Frisco This Afternoon,Its Going To Be a Beautiful Day,Its Like 75 Here Already Today,Hope Its Warm In The City,I Always Freeze My Ass Off There. Time To Smoke a Little Full Melt Bubble Then I Am Off To The City,Will Check Back In With Yous When I Get Back Tonight,Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough.....Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

jimmy

Mar 29 2007, 11:00 am

you fucked dog, why would you keep that shit in the house man, i mean that kinda shit you dont do near ya housae n shit you do it on someone elses property..well man i guess if givin the oppertunity, take the 7411 plea on possesion, and get like a year of probation. or go to jail...laterr homie

river runner

Mar 29 2007, 10:20 am

A TRIBUTE TO THE DOG
The best friend a man has in this world may turn against him and become
his enemy.

Those who are nearest and dearest to us may become traitors to their faith.

The people who are prone to fall on their knees when success is with us,may
be the first to throw the stone of malice when failure settles it's cloud upon our
heads.

The one absolutely unselfish friend that a man can have in this selfish world is
his dog.

A man's dog stands by him in prosperity and in poverty,in health and
sickness.

He will sleep on the cold ground when the wintry winds blow and the snow
drives fiercely,if only he may be near his master's side.

He will kiss the hand that has no food to offer,he will lick the wounds that come in encounters with the world.

He guards the sleep of his pauper master as if he were a Prince. When all other
friends desert, he remains.

And when death takes the Master in it's embrace and his body is laid away in the cold ground, no matter if all other friends pursue their way, there by his graveside will the Noble dog be found,his head between his paws, his eyes sad but open in alert watchfulness,faithful and true even to death...........

river runner

Mar 29 2007, 9:36 am

DOG - mans best friend,if you are going to Grow a good smart Dog is a must ! my Dog of 15 years a Golden Retriever past away a couple of months ago,she was the best,nothing got past her - NOTHING! not even little tiny bugs escaped her, she was a great judge of people as well.She is deeply missed.(*;*)

yeahhh

Mar 29 2007, 8:36 am

if he's a first time offender and doesn't have a violent past he MAY just have to go through some rehb shit, if his state has drug courts. But i'd lawyer up homie.

da kine

Mar 29 2007, 7:53 am

Good morning burners, how is it going? I've been working at this new job non-stop for a while now so I haven't really had a chance to post. I'm off this weekend though and I can't wait to go comcatose for a day or two. This guy can beat the sales charge as long as there is no scale in his house, no baggies helps too but isn't as important as the scale. The fact that he only had one un-flowering plant and four clones should help his case for personal consumption and not sales as well. The rest is not looking too good. They had every legal right to be in his house at that time. As much as I hate the cops, they were just doing what you paid the alarm company to have them do. Well, it's time to get ready for the daily grind. late

its me

Mar 29 2007, 12:40 am

Well Said Nor-Cal.Its Really Going To Be a Hot Summer This Year,I Should Have Already Got My Girls Outside,Wont Even Be Ready For Another 3-4 Weeks.The Year Round Strain Is Getting a Full 20 Hours Of Light With a Room Temp Of 70-73 Light On And 63-67 Light Off And 55% humidlty Light Off And 38-44% Light On,Trying To Get The Girls used To The Climite Up Here,They Are About 8-11 Inches Tall And Will Be Topped And Cloned Next Week,So I Know Who The Laidies Are.Seeds Have Already Made It To Humboldt,Grass Valley,Fresno,Sac-Town,Bakersfield,Chino,Salem,Portland,Seattle,Chicago And Even Sent Some To a Old Friend Amsterdam,He Got His Last Week,So As Far As I Know This Stuff Will Be Up And Down The West Coast This Year,And I Also Got This NEW Strain From a Friend a Few Nights Ago,He Said Its Called BULL-NANA,Its BULLRIDER X BANANA BUDS,Never Heard Of The Banana Buds But I already Have a Few Crasy BULLRIDER Strain,Anyways Got Some Work To Get To,Cough,Cough,Cough

Nor-Cal Smoker

Mar 28 2007, 11:40 pm

This dude is probably alread sittin' in jail. I mean if I wrote a busted letter asking for advise from fellow smokers, I think I would at least check in once in a while to see the fuck people had to say.

its me

Mar 28 2007, 10:35 pm

And For Somebody Who Is Asking For Help Where Are You Man???Many Of Us Have Ask You Where You Are?

its me

Mar 28 2007, 10:29 pm

To will And All Others Who Think This Guy Wont Be Charged Because Of The 4th Amendment,That Would Be Nice If We Lived In a Fairy Tale,This Guy Needs A GREAT Lawyer,And YES He Will Be Charged For: Growing And Selling Marijuana,Now If The Cops And D.A.'s Always Followed The Laws This Case Would Never Show Itself In a Courtroom BUT They Are Some Of Worst Scum On Earth And In Most Cases Where a Alarm Was Set Off And The Front Door Was Open And I Am Sure There Was NO RESPONCE When They Interd The Home Then They Most Likely Had Full Right To Be In His Home,If Not,Who's The Alarm For? Who Did This Guy Think Would Show Up If His Alarm Was Set Off???? DUH........... So This Guy Needs To Fine Some Loop-Hole To Get Out Of This,Other Wise Welcome To The System,Its Getting Really Crowded Here.

Mar 28 2007, 9:49 pm

yes,the police are chumps,but here in oregon the first case of the cops returning this med. growers stolen plants!yeah some tweeker stole this dudes stash and the cops caught him and returned the weed,so I dont think you live in a very tolerant state for weed.didnt you think over having your burgaler alarm on and what would happen if you were robed???????mmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,smkabol

Will

Mar 28 2007, 9:10 pm

Dude you didnt do anything wrong so ppl need to stop bitching about how stupid you are. Just exorcise your 4th amendment right. Since you didnt give them consent they cannot charge you for those plants. The plants will still be conviscated but you shouldnt get jail time.

FUCK THE POLICE

Mar 28 2007, 5:32 pm

SELL ALL YOUR SHIT AND LEAVE THE COUNTRY FOREVER FOR A PLACE WHERE MARIJUANA IS ACCEPTED.

YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!

Mar 28 2007, 3:53 pm

thats fuckin A!! right,its not the poolice fault, they were just doing there job,never,never grow weed with a burglar alarm,lesson learned. yes,they started out doing you a favor,checking your house! then they detected the smell,so they were supposed to ignore it?,you fool!you pay taxes,vote the laws so why dont you try to change them? you should just buy your weed now or move,smkabol

Mar 28 2007, 12:42 pm

the went into the house to make sure everything was secure, and when they went into the basement they could smell the dank plant...anybody whoes grown knows a plant smells and scent is enough for a fuckin pig to kick in a locked door.

riot smoker

Mar 28 2007, 12:34 pm

lets cause a riot and fuck up the canadian smoker!!!!

well smoke his ass!!!

Sky

Mar 28 2007, 12:36 am

You may be able to get off due to the illegal search? I think(depending on which state you live) have to be there for the police to enter your house even if the door was partically open.Which it may or may not have been. Anyways goodluck maybe you could get your medical card before??

ashleynicolle

Mar 27 2007, 8:50 pm

It's called the 4th amendment...any lawyer worth their soul could argue illegal search and seizure.... the problem with the arrest was that there wasn't just cause for them to go into an unlocked area of your house with consent or cause. was the fire in the basement? Probably not, so even the confession can be kicked out of court because there wasn't probalbe cause to search the premises. And without probable cause to search and enter the room, the confession is null due to the fact that the evidence would not be permissable in court due to how it was discovered...in the future, NEVER admit to ANYTHING! i don't care if they have video surveillance, a written transcript of your plan, or an audio sample, never admit wrong doing.

its me

Mar 27 2007, 7:01 pm

Now Come On wh,Thats Wasnt Cool,Nobody EVER Deserves To Go To Jail For a Plant Man,And 1 Flowering And 4 Rooted Clones Is About As Petty As They Can Get.Move To Cali ANd Get Your MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARD,I Myself Grow 216 Totaly Legal Girls.

Mar 27 2007, 3:19 pm

bong hits for jesus? ok,smkabol,what a bunch of crap! so grow a plant or two,make sure its locked up and somones always home!, thats why my lady dosnt work,she stays home when im not,dont you see,this person deserves what they get.

420 Celebrity

Mar 27 2007, 11:52 am

next..put a whole mess of locks and make sure you lock the front door when you leave your house.............get a dog to protect your house too.put locks everywhere and dont be stupid.

this is an experience for your ass to get smarter and know what to do when it comes down to grow some marijauana plants.........smoke safe :)

Nor-Cal Smoker

Mar 27 2007, 11:31 am

I back up what it's me said 100%. DO NOT TALK TO THE D.A., NO MATTER WHAT!!!! They will weasel a deal out of you if you don't get yourself a good attorney. Hopefully, you will let us know where you are so we can help you.

you

Mar 27 2007, 9:33 am

should be able to get the intent to sell unless they can prove you have sold something they can't get you on that charge anyway, although they may still want to try you for it to be dicks.

Mar 27 2007, 9:02 am

go to norml.org they have a list for every state and lawyers who speacilize in drug cases, may have to spend some money, but they outcome would be more positive then a public defender. Norml also has all the drug laws for each state so if you're not to sure what you're looking at going into court maybe you should check it out.

B.Kind

Mar 27 2007, 7:47 am

its me, is right a good lawyer can turn 168yrs into 4 months probation, trust me

its me

Mar 26 2007, 10:20 pm

88mm Dont Tell Him To Contact A D.A.!!!! ,NEVER EVER Contact Anybody,Thats What Your Lawyer Is For,Dont Talk To Anyone At The D.A.'s Office,Go Lawyer Shopping,And I Do Mean Shopping,Dont Hier The First Asshole Thats Says "hey you have a good case there" Shop Around,Talk To People In Your Area,AND WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU??? If You Would Have Said Your Location Maybe One Of Us Could Set You Up With a REAL LAWYER,Not Some Punk That Finished Last In His Class And They Still Call Him A Lawyer,Get On The NORML Web Site They Will Help You Find A Lawyer That Works In Drug Cases.And Yes This May Cost You About 5-10 K,So The Fuck What,Sell Everything You Own If You Have Too,You Cant Put A Price On A Clean Record.

88mm

Mar 26 2007, 8:52 pm

Write a letter to the District Attorney who is prosecuting your case.

Highlight the fact that you do not currently have a criminal record of any kind, as well as the fact that you are a productive citizen (job, credit history, family, etc.)

Offer regret that the situation has occurred, and indicate that you understand that this is a "life changing" moment for you.

Indicate that you have started attending Narcotics Anonymous Meetings to change your behavior.

Finally, based on the above circumstances, as well as your reactions to those circumstances, ask for DEFERED PROSECUTION.

This means that they defer the prosecution for 6 months or a year or whatever, and if you don't get in trouble again, they drop the charges.

However, if you get in trouble again, they will charge you for everything.

After that, go back to doing whatever you want to do, but I wouldn't want to have to talk to that D.A. at any point down the line...

It's worth a shot at least...

da kine

Mar 26 2007, 7:45 pm

It's good to see the page up and all of you already back. I don't know man, it sounds like you have a pretty good case as long as you find yourself a competant lawyer. They shouldn't have entered your house if there were no signs of forced entry, but.........if you left your door unlocked it could be seen as a reason to enter, especialy if you have an alarm sounding. As far as that goes it probably gets a little hairy but if they smell or see something while sweeping the house that may or may not be grounds for a probable search, at least as far as our fucked up laws are concerned. Everybody is right when they say to find a NORML affiliated lawyer or at least a good local one that had dealt with similar cases (and hopefuly won!). Good luck man. late

its me

Mar 26 2007, 7:40 pm

Well About The Cops Coming Into Your Place,if There Was Really A Alarm Going Off And The Front Door Was Really Open And There Was No Lock To The Basement And No Lock To The Grow Room And Your Not In CALIFORNIA Or ALASKA Then You Had Better Get A REALLY GOOD MARIJUANA LAWYER,Or My Dear Boy You Will Get FUCKED In So Many Ways By Our FUCKED UP COURT SYSTEM,You Will Forever Be In The System In One Way Or Another.Get A Lawyer Make Payments And Fight,Fight,Fight.Never Believe Anything A PUBLIC DEFENDER TELLS YOU,He/She Will Only Lie To You.

The206

Mar 26 2007, 5:32 pm

If you had a lock on the door to the grow room then they would have to have a warrant to go into that room. Also they entered your house with no such consent etc. so theirfore they have entered illegally and anything that they found shouldnt be alowed to be used in court. (I think)

Mar 26 2007, 3:31 pm

so kidnapp me!

Mar 26 2007, 3:30 pm

your so right,i could procure the mix oseeds from hell,might obtain that widow i want to try,hell would my rig be ok? wish i had some dependable beat-up thing for these affairs.

its me

Mar 26 2007, 2:46 pm

Fuck Man,your Only about What 6 Hours Away From There?And Its On A Week-End,You Can Make It.Never Heard Of The Mollasses Trick,May Just Give That A Try With My Indoor Girls,Dont Start Them For Another 3 1/2 Weeks.I Always Start My Indoor On 4/20 Since I Only Do Two Crops Indoors Each Year,That Gives Us Some Vacation/Travle Time Every Year.

Mar 26 2007, 2:28 pm

I would really like to go,ive changed jobs to a more FLEXABLE employer I fucking hope!!!!

Mar 26 2007, 2:26 pm

it does stink ya know,make the tea,then add a table spoon mollasses, and wait about a week then it is ready for dilution,application,I think I get more thc if I just use greenair nuts,as they are both the same hybird plant,one is control,the g.a. one,the other is bat tea.

its me

Mar 26 2007, 2:12 pm

wh,Are You Going up To The Seattle Hempfest This Year? And If Some Of You Dont Know THE 2007 OZZFEST IS TOTALY FREE,ALL 25 Shows Are 100% FREE,Check Out The Ozzfest Web Site For More Info.How Do You Like The Bat Tea? I Cant Stand The Smell.Makes Me Want To Blow Chunks Everytime I Mix My Soil.

Mar 26 2007, 2:07 pm

ive put them into thier own 5 gall,strong organic soil mix,supplemented waterings of fermented bat tea,thrive and green air newts,if I dont trim them I think I can get a pound! ive callcalated watts, and they are going crazy after only 2 and a half weeks,nice to hear about your thing

Mar 26 2007, 2:00 pm

greetins,its me, wel, its pissy rainy here with sunbreaks,ive two,I am going to experiment with them,see if they will fill there envirment!!

its me

Mar 26 2007, 1:50 pm

How's Your Morning Going wh? Nice And Sunny Here.The Year Round Has Sprouted And Is In FULL VEG In A 20 X 40 X 16 Greenhouse.1 per Every 9 Sq Ft.Will Keep You Informed.

charles the toker!!

Mar 26 2007, 1:45 pm

lets all grow some bombass marijuana.....does smoking pot make you have sex longer????

its me

Mar 26 2007, 1:45 pm

So Are You Going To Tell Us What State You Are In? Because All We Can tell You Is Get A PAID LAWYER And Fight This BULLSHIT CHARGE,Do Not Take ANY DEALS Unless The Deal Is NO CHARGES FILED!!!And Have Your Lawyer Ask: Did The Officer Check The Attic Too,And What About Every Closet,Was There A Foot Print On The FrontDoor ( damage from maybe being kicked in? ),Was There Any Sign Of Forced Entry??? And YES Shut That Fucking Alarm Off,Get A Good Dog.And If You Are In A State That Has Approved MEDICAL MARIJUANA Get Your Damb Card And Grow Legal Crops.Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough,Cough...............Got Some Sick Triples Out Of Canada A Few Days Ago,Whew, Very Strong HASH PLANT.Just Wish Those Canadians Would Grow Something That Doesnt Always Smell And Taste The Same.SOIL Is The Key.....

Mar 26 2007, 1:39 pm

you idiot! an alarm thats hooked up to the cops? this is bullshit, who could do this? only a moron,.

if you have a previously

Mar 26 2007, 12:54 pm

clean record that will help you talk your way out of this.

get a lawyer from the norml listings if possible.

FIGHT IT!

Mar 26 2007, 12:13 pm

GET A LAWYER AND TELL HIM TO BILL YOU!

A PUBLIC DEFENDER WILL SURELY GET YOU FUCKED!

ACUSE THE COPS OF SETTING THE ALARM AND BREAKING IN! WHY WOULD THAY OPEN A LOCKED BASEMENT?!

Mar 26 2007, 11:52 am

why would his door be open, I think your wife turned him in, how stupid to have a alarm when your growin weed, also what state? oh well, smkabol

Nor-Cal Smoker

Mar 26 2007, 11:44 am

I agree with River Runner, they had no right to do anything other than secure your house. It makes you wonder if the Basement door was locked, maybe so was your front door? I would take it as far as you can, and don't except a plea deal right away, or at all. Make them work for your tax dollars.

river runner

Mar 26 2007, 5:11 am

Sounds to me the Officers did not have Probable Cause to bust you for the plant in the basement.They were there to investigate a break-in.They did not have a search warrant to search home,they should have made shure house was secure and that was it,sounds to me like they being the scum-bags that they are took it a little bit further since they had no supervision watching over them and took advantage of the situation....Get a Lawyer fight it.....The pigs were probably in your wifes under-wear drawer cross-dressing and smelling her under-wear for all you guys Know........Cops are Scumbags! Like i said They deserve no respect,they invaded your privacy!

river runner

Mar 26 2007, 4:57 am

What State?....All states are different.I do not think i would have an alarm that sounds off and attracts attention.if your plant was behind a locked door in the basement.What in the hell were the pigs doing in the basement checking things that were locked.Did the officers after finding your plants continue to investigate break-in......cops are thieves they deserve no RESPECT!

In the same boat.

Mar 26 2007, 12:42 am

Yeah your state make a huge diff. Make sure any lawyer you hire has marijuana cultivation experience. Almost all lawyers will take any case and it is your job to make sure they are your best choice. Most lawyers will set up a payment plan if you have some money down and are a person of good faith. Good luck with your case....I have court tommorow for a much larger one. Peace

its me

Mar 26 2007, 12:13 am

Well,First Of All What State Are You In? That Really Matters Alot,Since Every State Has There Own Laws And 5 Plants Is A State Case,So What State Are You In? And Can You Afford A Real Lawyer,Because You DO NOT WANT A PUBLIC DEFENDER!!! NO MATTER WHAT YOU HEAR,NO PUBLIC DEFENDER.

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