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Busted Letter #117

Cost of roach: $2.25; cost of getting caught with roach: $1,663 and counting

Mon, Sep 17, 2007 2:16 pm

My seventeen-year-old son was leaving a friends house (in NJ). He was driving his sister’s car. Less than one mile from his friend’s house he was pulled over for not having his headlights on. When asked for his license, registration and insurance he told the officer that it was his sister’s car and he'd have to call her to find out where the registration and insurance card were and that his license was in his car.

Of course the officer then asked my son to step out of the car and asked if he had anything on him or in the car that the officer needed to know about. My son’s response was "no sir.” The cop then asked if he could search the vehicle. My son said no because he was in a hurry and needed to be home by 10PM (the stop occurred around 9pm). There were five cops on the scene and they called for a K9 unit from a different township in a neighboring county.

The K9 arrived about an hour and a half after the traffic stop. The dog proceeded to severely scratch all four doors of my daughter’s car and then the car’s interior. The dog detected something in the center console. They found a very small roach inside the compartment and charged my son with driving without headlights, failure to produce documents, and possession of a controlled dangerous substance in a motor vehicle.

After picking up the car at the impound lot (which cost $163) I notice the damage to the car and went right to the police station to see what they were going to do to repair the car. The cop filed a report concerning the damages and said he'd see what he could do.

When I asked the cop why a K9 unit was called to the scene, their response was that the officers on the scene detected the smell of marijuana. I asked why they sought permission to search the car if in fact they had probable cause. The office then became angry with me and asked, "shouldn't you be more concerned that your son is smoking marijuana?" I explained that that conversation will be between me and my son and that my conversation with the police was intended to 1) make sure that my son's civil rights were not violated by being subject to unnecessary detention and an illegal search and 2) to inquire about the damages to my daughter's car.

Needless to say, we have retained an attorney (at a cost of $1500 dollars) and will vehemently fight the charges, however, it is comical to think that five cops and a K9 unit were wasting their time and tax payers’ money to make this giant bust of a seventeen year old for a old roach that he wasn't even aware of in his sister’s car.

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bigmikey

Jun 25 2009, 9:41 am

Hey EVERYONE! Just busted myself recently and it totally blows! I looked online and found L.E.A.P.(Law Enforcement Against Prohibition). There is a HUGE movement going on to legalize and regulate ALL drugs. They are not condoning drug use. But, they do believe it is your personal right to do drugs if you want. They are also declaring that the "war on drugs" is a huge failure and that it needs to end. They have a petition you can put your name onto that will be sent to President Obama and there is also a pre-drafted letter that you can have emailed to your local state representative. Both are strongly urging for legalization.

This is NO JOKE and is completely on the up and up. Check out their web site and GET INVOLVED!!! You can find all the video proof you need on the web site to prove it is true. Some videos of actual news media and discussions in the senate on a bill to legalize ALL drugs. They are fighting in Congress and the UN and traveling all over the U.S. to help educate people on the failed drug policies. THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WIIL ALL HAPPEN A LOT FASTER IF EVERYONE GETS INVOLVED. Put your bongs down for one minute and do some networking and tell EVERYONE to voice their opinions.

I urge everyone to go online and look up "Law Enforcement Against Prohibition" and at least check it's validity. I know that after getting busted myself, I was feeling really guilty about the whole ordeal. But after reading through this site for a while I was feeling very disturbed and not because I was wrong but, because WE ALL SHOULD HAVE THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT GOES INTO OUR BODIES!!!

WE HAVE AN OUTLET PEOPLE, ONE THAT WILL END THIS INSANITY!!! DO THIS NOW AND TELL EVERYONE!!! IT IS TIME TO TAKE OUR RIGHTS BACK. WE ARE NOT WRONG!!! THE LAWS ARE WRONG!!!!!

cop hater

Feb 3 2009, 12:53 pm

way to go #117. Lying sob's. cop's suck. I play softball with one. After the game he pounds 5-6 beers and drives home to beat his wife.

kinghelwig

Dec 17 2008, 1:03 pm

MassHaze,you have to stop letting these people get to you,you really sound frustrated,most of the people on here dont know what is up anyway,most are kids with big filthy mouths,chill and smoke a couple of hits and move on,you'll feel much better,I come here for the entertainment hope that helped.

yeay!!!

Aug 4 2008, 7:20 pm

Great news pops...cuz i hate to see a waste of time and money on situations like this...good luck on getting the money back cuz we all know how that goes..all they want is there money and quotas... they should be protecting the city from real crime rather then petty things such as these which i agree can be handled at home...cuz it starts with the parents anyways..

Busted #117

Apr 21 2008, 8:53 am

This is an update to letter #117 (cost of a roach $2.25 cost of getting caught with roach $1663 and counting). The evidence collected during the search was ruled inadmissible and the prosecutor was forced to drop the charges. The judge stated that my son son was detained for an unreasonable amount of time without being charged. The prosecutor said that it was only 20 minutes before the K-9 unit arrived when the distance from the one township to the other was more than 30 miles. Now we are in the process of getting the local police department to pay for the damages done to my daughter's car by the K-9. Thank you

El Magico

Mar 19 2008, 4:18 pm

Sounds like a sound strategy to effect the total eradication of drug use in this country. I mean, all we need is 7 cops, 5 cars, with 1 K-9 unit for every roach-toting teenager in America. Anyone have a few extra trillion dollars laying around? Maybe we will find the solution to the scourge of marijuana in a bunker somewhere in Iraq, right behind the W.M.D.s.......

Police

Feb 28 2008, 10:05 pm

I am a cop and I find roaches on teens all the time. I tll them if fuck me I will let them go. So then I fuck them and still lock them up.

Anonymous

Feb 20 2008, 5:02 pm

I am 18 years old and got busted yesterday for a roach in my car.

I am worried about my record and what place will hire me for being considered a "criminal".

I had no bad intentions and I did nothing wrong.

When will America show us TRUE justice?

I pray that you're situation works out well, and I would hope that everyone could pray for me as well.

Budz4Life

Jan 8 2008, 7:49 pm

Fck legal rights, America's twisted government, and the 5 piggies it took to nail your son. It was a roach- he didn't commit murder. Any half-decent person would have turned their back. Fight like hell and good luck.

4mr_Smokr

Dec 18 2007, 5:04 am

Just like the rest of ya's, I have an opinion & here it is: if you don't want to be arrested, don't break laws! Both me & my other half used to bone up HARD! We then bought a house. We saw good people have bad things happen to them for smokin/growing pot & made a decision to stop until it was no longer a felony, especially one which can take yer house, yer wife, yer kids & yer dog too! I just wanna point out to all of you "it doesn't cause health problems/kill people" fact staters: smoking pot, or tabacco can help form blood clots, which can kill you, which is a nicer way of being because it can also cause strokes which can leave you about as useful as a cucumber that craps a lot. Don't believe me? Ask a doctor, a hemotologist knows lots about blood, & can give you insight to this. I did my thesis on the wonders of marijuana & was all sorts of uppity about it being harmless & then learned through personal experience, as well as finding out others that have "sticky blood" that partook of "sticky bud" developed clots. So just keep that in mind & if you come from a line of "strokers" pop a St. Joseph's aspirin along with puffing the nugs. NJ is not a "pot friendly" state, but there are plenty others that are worse off, so educate yerselves & either lay off the puffin' or start stuffing boxes with your goods to make for a move to a friendlier, kinder state.
I also wanna bring to your attention that not all cops are of the hard knock sort. Most are the equivelent of Wienies with hats & badges, but some would rather go after criminals than "smokers" but some "smokers" make it all too easy to be found & some are of the terribly stupid sort & are blatant. Don't be stupid, smoke in/on private property & don't partake while driving. 'Nuff said.

Green Hit

Dec 4 2007, 3:52 pm

When a guy has a gun and a badge, he can do pretty much whatever he wants, including breaking the laws he is sworn to uphold.

law student canibana

Nov 23 2007, 2:08 pm

The police can not search a vehicle unless they have the consent of the REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE; persons in possession of the car can not give admissable consent because they have no discretion over the possession charge. This is Canadian law, so NJ may be different. consider civil action if your son is found not guilty. NEVER GIVE CONSENT, NEVER SAY YES TO A COP, NEVER SAY ANYTHING AT ALL, NEVER SAY ANYTHING AT ALL, NEVER SAY ANYTHING AT ALL: WITH ONE EXCEPTION: i WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO MY LAWYER BEFORE MAKING ANY COMMENT ON THIS OR ANY OTHER ISSUE FCUK THE POLICE, ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR LAWYER, AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD ONE WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO RAISE HELL AND TAKE A CASE TO TRIAL

grammer specialist

Nov 3 2007, 1:50 am

you spelled lleagle wrong?? its illegal

Leagal Eagle

Oct 27 2007, 10:32 am

If the pigs kept your son waiting for an hour and a half, it is all over. The cops CANNOT legally detain you tyo wait for a dog any longer than it would take to write a normal ticket!!Your son should have been asking every 5 minutes: " Am I free to leave ?"..and iof he was told NO then he was being detained against his will. There is NO WAY that the cops can justify keeping a motorist under detention for an hour and a half just to wait for a dog; that equals false arrest even before the dog arrived. When you feel that you are not free to leave voluntarily, you are under arrest. An attorney should be able to get this dropped fast.

WFH

Oct 24 2007, 12:46 am

A forenzic scientist once told me the smell of marijuana doesn't qualify for probable cause. check your state laws to be sure.

Stoner Sailor

Oct 23 2007, 8:23 pm

Easy not all cops are bad, some are fools some are not. It sucks the kid got busted, but he was dumb enough to get busted so sad. What the heck was he smoking and driving at the same time anyway. Smoke in your house with friends.

bacon cooker

Oct 23 2007, 1:10 pm

Pigs got nothing better to do with there time. They are losers; glorified Mall cops with nothing better to do. 99% of their time and cases involve issuing speeding tickets to people going 5 miles over the speed limit to make money for their town's treasury. All they basically are is IRS treasury agents with guns who do some light, occasional police work. Small town cops are the worst. Nothing to do, and they are very conservative and rascist to begin with.

The Paper Boy

Oct 22 2007, 10:27 pm

Thatweedman, shut the fuck up. The boy's rights were clearly violated because he refused a consent to search the vehicle, so the cops brought out a goddamn K-9 unit to search the vehicle anyway. For what reason? The cops wanted to show off their authority and declared probable cause and claimed they smelled marijuana. In an old roach. In the console of the car, under things. No possible way.

thatweedman

Oct 22 2007, 8:54 pm

masshaze

i dont know what the fuck your doing but all i can see is you bitching. hey the kid got caught, thats a bitch. pots illeagle, thats a bitch. do we all wish it was lleagle? yes most of us. but look at reality. pot is sadly illeagle and its not gonna change anytime soon. so why dont you shut the fuck up because your pointless jibber jabber is annoying the shit out of me. it holds no value of substance. you analyze everyones word and find something to disagree with
go smoke a fatty and
SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Oct 22 2007, 9:27 am

this is to njams13, i am not one to take sides of the po,po, but i am one to put right were right is, i cant tel u the amont of times i was stop and serch just becase... i ges i might look a little suspect, but that ant the point, the point is they want to look like there working so they go after the smallest thing they could find because they cant handel notin big, see what i mean? so am not agreein with masshaze because she takin up for the po po but she puttin right were right is, and until they legal weed, what can we do? we cant beat the law, so all we can do is try to get them on side.

Oct 22 2007, 9:02 am

yea! you guy below masshaze, your the reason y its hard for tru weed smokers like myself, u must be smoking that other shit! here is some advice, DON'T LASE IT! WEED IS GOOD ON ITS OWN.

Oct 22 2007, 8:54 am

river runner, spokin like a tru brother mon, kep kickin ass bro.

Oct 22 2007, 8:45 am

its me again, i just found this web page so am jus reading up on all the comments, and i think that,that masshaze person have a lot of good points, but i think "they" meannin the ones in charge dont want to legal it because, well think about it if it was easy to get then "they" wont be gettin such big money from big people who sell it for them to look the other way.

Oct 22 2007, 8:29 am

i think that person that said weed is the least of our problem has a good point,it is the lest of our problem.

Purple Fujii

Oct 22 2007, 2:41 am

price of LB on front $600 price getting caught $10,000. Bond 12.5 %. Narcs care if ya handicappe, priceless. :P

Sum Hommie

Oct 14 2007, 9:51 pm

Your an incredible lady, if only my mom was as concerned about my rights

MassHaze

Oct 9 2007, 4:55 am

Yeah I re-read that and I totally read it wrong the first time. My bad.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Oct 8 2007, 11:44 pm

Go back and check my earlier posting, I believe it says that I agree with you and that the person below you was ignorant!

Anyway, sorry if it came across differently!

Nor-Cal Smoker

Oct 8 2007, 11:42 pm

To MassHaze: I apologize for my earlier comment, I made a mistake and meant to address the person below you. My apologies, I'm sorry!! I do agree with you!

Re:LSD

Oct 8 2007, 5:56 am

I think must of us got that a while back .....

L$D

Oct 7 2007, 7:29 pm

everyone needs to realize that the government doesnt giv a fuk about you,they dont care about your safety or your well being,the american people are expendable assets as long as they are making money off all the fucked up shit they do

L$D

Oct 7 2007, 7:27 pm

cigarettes kill more a year than homicide,suicide,ALL illegal drugs,aids,alcohol,and car crashes COMBINED does.marijuana kills 0,what the fuk is going on here?

MassHaze

Oct 7 2007, 3:50 pm

(to below)If you dont think people are getting rich off weed right now then you are delusional. The balance for money comes when industrial hemp is used for all it can be(to list all of it right now I dont hvae the patience) and the people who want to grow and smoke it can, or if they want to, buy it from a store. The medicinal properties also weaken the idea of a social breakdown. It just doesnt make sense.

If you are able to grow it in your front yard, then you would not be compelled to pay high prices at a store. People wouldnt make any more mnoney than they already are, and it wouldnt be a fuckin global conspiracy like it is now.

To assume every human in the country will be baked all day just because it is legal is ridiculous. Not everyone is drunk all day. You are assuming there is a bigger slippery slope than there is.

MassHaze

Oct 7 2007, 12:37 pm

how am I a hypocrite? If I got caught I would be pissed, too. That doesnt make it reasonable to shoot the cop or try to convince them that pot law is incorrect when they arrest me. Where in what way am I being a hypocrite?

If you are going to call me something at least back it up. Fucking A...

OneWhoWalksOnClouds

Oct 7 2007, 3:20 am

Man that is so lame but who drives without thier headlights on what a tard ass. dro hoe

masshaze your just a hypocrite

somerandomstoner

Oct 6 2007, 4:56 pm

Wow that sucks. I love weed

to ?

Oct 6 2007, 9:05 am

I don't get it ?

Oct 6 2007, 5:21 am

"america sucks " ??

yea like aaaa fox . (sly look )

john liles

Oct 5 2007, 6:05 pm

Thats because america SUCKS!!!

BUD420SMOKER

Oct 5 2007, 5:38 pm

Cost of Roach 2.25 WoW that must have been a fatty

MassHaze

Oct 5 2007, 3:44 pm

NorCal, you agreed with me. That makes you ignorant.

Damn every time I post something people have to come back with some random "FU" just because I offended some other friend or poster or something. Maybe you are even using different name handles to make it seem like someone else agrees with your hatred of me.

If you are going to call me an idiot, then DONT AGREE WITH ME. Not that I have been wrong or anything. Any reason why Im an idiot that you can come up with and I would be glad to know.

river runner

Oct 5 2007, 8:27 am

Cannabis is a beautiful plant with many uses - There will always be a market in some way or another,I say legalize we will all be better off.It's just a matter of when at this point,12 states tell me so,we just need the federal government to do the right thing and step a side.I brew my own beer,I have plenty of friends that say cool I'm going do that but never do,just like with the herb, some people lack the talent at growing simple house plants or do not have time/space,or the energy,just like we can all be growing our own vegetables in the summer,but still not every one does - buying local grown foods and goods is the single most Important thing allot of communities could be doing,but yet most the vegetables and food in your local grocery store comes from other regions,the Cannabis niche will need to be filled when it becomes fully legal, a lot of people are going to come out of the closet and feel safe & free to partake.I believe legalizing cannabis will open up a whole new vibe that will be kick ass.Just think being able to go downtown and smoke or vape freely passing the herb around during socializing with friends and not have to worry about being fined or arrested - That would kick ass.I spent 1 year in Amsterdam and surrounding areas back between 91-92,and yup it was kick ass..Anyways thats my 2Cents - back to the vape.Peace to all fighting the good fight - and my hat goes off to all the medical growers and medical club owners out west, you all are on the fore front and fighting very bravely - Peace~Mon......

Nor-Cal Smoker

Oct 5 2007, 12:17 am

Thank You, MassHaze!!
There are plenty of us that would be more than happy for marijuana to be legal. Yeah, the price would go down and that would be a bummer for some dealers, on the other hand a lot of us wouldn't care anyway because we grow our own. Cigarettes are legal and if anything they've only gotten more expensive as time goes on, along with alcohol...which doesn't lose it's value just because it's legal.

To the dude below MassHaze....you are just plain flat ignorant!

MassHaze

Oct 4 2007, 8:58 pm

The below statement is like trying to read a schizo argue with themself between two personalities.

To the below pseudo-enlightened one, would you rather be arrested than be free to smoke what you want at low prices? If the only thing drawing you to weed is the fact that it is illegal then you arent a stoner, you are a moron.

Make up your mind and stop posting. You dont get what we in the industry call "it".

re-dumbassfounded SD!

Oct 4 2007, 8:23 pm

you stupid idiot! yes you! save a donut,kill a cop is just a joke! get it? ahhahaha!weed will never be legal, thats the fun of it, if it were, it would become too easy to get, the price would drop, and finaly it would just become blasey boring,then alot of people would just quit and start drinking, you asshole, who the fuck do you think you are, you think you can just show up here and scold us,???? we have paid our dues and can say whatever the fuck we want. Of course you are welcome, please go buy a hightimes magazine, two would be good.

Stoner Sailor

Oct 4 2007, 4:20 pm

Lesson learned here, do not break traffic laws when carring weed in your car. Too bad so sad, but he deserved to get busted. Keep the smoke in the house, not in the car where the cops can bust you. I mean what did you expect them to do?

Dumbfounded in SD

Oct 4 2007, 6:24 am

I can't believe how stupid some of the comments here are. I've seen countless posters demonstrate they no nothing about the actual law, and would rather believe heresay and third-hand info rather than researching the law itself. Do yourself a favor people....Knock it off with the completely inaccurate or highly stupid (save a donut, kill a cop) type comments. poeple like you are major reasons why marijauan is not legal. Too many postsmokers are blatant idiots. you make the rest of us look dumb by association. If you don't have anything inteliigent to say, why say anything? If marijauan is ever legalized, it won't be because of people like you

To Masshaze

Oct 3 2007, 6:07 pm

Good job .

MassHaze

Oct 3 2007, 5:48 pm

NJams13, now that I think about it, your name makes plenty of sense. N is for nonsense, which you prattle on with. Jams is to jam a half-assed point into wherever you can to sound like you are intelligent(you are right, mind-altering chemicals like tetrahydrocannibinol arent drugs), and 13 is for your age. Makes sense.

Im glad I ripped that bowl or else I wouldnt have had the spare time to think about it. BLAZE ON!

MassHaze

Oct 3 2007, 5:42 pm

Well, I guess I will try to respond to whatever valid point njams13 and "?????" had, which there were very very very few. In fact, there were NO valid points. This should be fun.
Jersey cops are fuckheads. I know this. That doesnt make you any LESS of a dumbass for getting caught with miniscule amounts of pot. I defend no cops, but I unlike the people who ripped a bowl before posting instead of me who will after, understand that they have a job and process to go through. They didnt just pull over some kid, plant drugs on him, and attack him with a dog. It was a stupid 17 year old coming back from a friends house with no lights on and got caught with more than he expected. Act like a moron when getting pulled over and expect them to fuck you over. I live in AZ and our Sheriff is a douche. You DO NOT FUCK AROUND when they pull you over.

The validity of the pot law is battled out in court, not at a traffic stop you stupid fucks(njams13 and whichever dickless moron ????? is). I cant wait to see you try to decriminalize with ideas like you have.

to : NJams 13

Oct 3 2007, 6:57 am

"its the duty of mine to prove and make aware to those of you missing it that the punishment for the roach is heavier than driving with no lights "

Thank you for that inspiring insight . I'm sure the kid has this info by now .

Re: NJams13

Oct 3 2007, 6:03 am

LOL .. you're funny kid .

shutchinson

Oct 2 2007, 10:25 pm

drinking kills,cigarettes kill, crack kills, meth kills,what the hell is wrong with pot? dont make since.

NJams13

Oct 2 2007, 8:30 pm

For those of you like MASSHAZE,why dont you put a badge on your chest! your distgusting to type in defense of the cops. regardless of whether he should've had on his lights(in all actuallity it probably wasnt fully dark but sunset)or if he should've have known of the roach,it's the duty of mine to prove and make aware to those of you missing it that the punishment for the roach is heavier then driving with no lights,even though driving with no lights is considerably more dangerous.Also not to forget about the expense the police depertment which is supposed to protect caused for the family alone just buy scratching the car. Bottom line FUCK THE COPS who dare to say marijuana is a drug, and that is only because they're part of the society who know nothing else but to consider a drug simply because that's what the hypocritic laws have said for so long now and it's time to open thier eyes!

river runner

Oct 2 2007, 8:00 pm

The laws are wrong and the cops are corrupt suckers using there badge and gun along with these fucked up laws to do what they want to you if they want with out question.cops are criminals and are no better than any other criminal on the streets.FUCK THEM and there job..They are nothing but street armed thugs ruining lives handing out fines helping the courts collect revenue.Capitalism is organized crime.

big_bambu

Oct 2 2007, 7:16 pm

sitting here reading this shit......damn some people argue over anything.Once upon a time alcohol was illegal in this country, but some of the most influencal families got rich being drug dealers(bootlegging whiskey) such as the Kennedy family. so fuck the law, Grow , smoke sell, buy, if they want to bust you they will. play with fire, expect to get a burn occasionally. but deal with it.the day may someday come when pot prohibition ends, and if you're a bad ass dealer, then you can form your own factory just like jack daniels, or phillip morris. not saying fuck the laws or the cops or anything, but fuck thier laws on marijuana.A cop is a cop and they have a job to do. Good or bad, they still have a job to do, some of my best friends I grew up with became cops. Just because they're my friends doesn't mean they wont bust me. IT'S THIER FUCKING JOB. nothing personal. most of you people act like the cops got something against you personally.Well let's reverse the role.lets say that cops are actually the bad guys, and wearing a badge and a uniform was illegal. most of your dumbass kids are saying hell yeah, death to pigs...you are the problem with this country, and your parents shouldn't bred you in the first place. the rest of you people, keep smoking, and enjoy life

He Learned The Hard Way

Oct 2 2007, 5:41 pm

The best way to keep from getting searched is to keep from getting pulled over. He should have had his headlights on. I'm not saying that the cops are right by any means, but they are the ones with the badges and all you usually can do is just play the game. Smoke

Re:

Oct 2 2007, 4:59 pm

Heh , heh , ok.

river runner

Oct 2 2007, 4:54 pm

I meant Star trek not Star track - .

river runner

Oct 2 2007, 4:51 pm

Re: you have no idea who Voltaire was do you ?. Francoise-Marie Arouet November 21st 1694 ~ may 30th 1778 - better known as - (pen name)Voltaire - was a French enlightenment writer,essayist,deist & philosopher known for his Philosophical sport,and defense of reform despite strict censorship & harsh penalties for hose who broke them. Just letting you know my comment had nothing to do with Star Track.Anyways back to work it's harvest time in my neck of the woods inside & almost time for the outside girls to come down.It's going to be a sweet winter of leisure.

Oct 2 2007, 4:39 pm

are they ..................

Re: River Runner

Oct 2 2007, 4:28 pm

Wasn't meant to be an accusation . Chill .
- Voltaire
-Mr. Spock ...........my attempt at humor . *

*Disclaimer : I acknowledge that I am not good at humor .
Questions will be asked in the form of a question. Hight Times is not responsible for the accuracy or views represented in comments posted by myself .

river runner

Oct 2 2007, 3:31 pm

Re: - Do you think the Governments war on drugs is justified morally,if so you are sadly mistaken & must live in a bubble of a false reality always doing what you are told never questioning the facts.The US Government has ruined more lives than whatever drug/herb you want to do has ever ruined. & what is the Mr.Spock comment about ?. hmmmmm.

Re: River runner

Oct 2 2007, 3:09 pm

That all depends on your perception of reality-Mr. Spock

If you really want to bring it done to its most common denominator : Who determines what is right and wrong ....?

?????

Oct 2 2007, 12:12 pm

masshaze get a life u idiot.

river runner

Oct 2 2007, 11:59 am

It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong - Voltaire

Oct 1 2007, 4:25 pm

Jersey may be bad , but you should pend some time in Virginia . About as fucked up as they get ..

WhatExit?

Oct 1 2007, 2:17 pm

Jersey is the worst police state I have ever lived in. That's one reason I moved. This is a really common story actually. Jersey cops are ready to break out K-9's at the drop of a hat.It's fun for them. High and tight moustache lifers,Pigs. As for the scratching at the doors the cop was probably triggering the dog to go off so he could get probable cause. It's not hard to trigger a false positive on a dog. I've had it done tons with nothing in the car. They do it all the time. Everyday. People on the West Coast can't fathom the hassles Marijuana causes on the East Coast. It sucks here.

Charlie loves Valerie....

Oct 1 2007, 12:46 am

and i love Hightimes!
including (Marijuana)
oh yeah!

Jonathan

Sep 30 2007, 9:47 pm

Thats bullshit.Im constantly harassed by the po po,they can do what they want,they have a badge,and to the guy that said "there was 5 cops called for a reason," as if the kid was throwing a temper tantrum...he must live in the suburbs,round here 3 to 4 UNITS are on the spot immediately for nothing, a tail light out/,seat belt ticket etc,
Police have to much pull and rights over "reg." people.

MassHaze

Sep 30 2007, 5:43 pm

I find it hilarious that people say "its not their fault cause the law is stupid and should be changed and smoking isnt even bad".

NEWS FLASH: It doesnt matter if they illegalize the color yellow on baseball caps, it still makes it ILLEGAL. Sure it would be stupid and useless, but thats not the point. If a law is broken, then dont be surprised when they arrest you.

On another thought, why couldnt he produce documents? Why were there 5 cops there at a headlight stop? What caused them to call the k-9?

There are questions in that story that are severely unanswered. How shakey was this kid acting? They dont call 5 cops and a k-9 for no reason, no matter how corrupt NJ is.

NJresident

Sep 30 2007, 4:26 pm

Police in NJ are very corrupt. This same thing happened to me, I was arrested for 0.1 grams of marijiana in a local central jersey township. 0.1 is a fucking joke. They will do anything to bust you.

Sep 30 2007, 1:55 pm

there comes a time when the cops buddys say-you havnt busted anyone in a while, or mabey he cant feel like a cop unless he bust sombody! And there you were,waiting, to get busted, why not have fun with them? I say carry only what your gonna use for the day, that would be a joint!!!!!easy to eat,you can take a sip here and there,you can drive them crazy,they just know your stoned, but cant do nothin about it. nice, how are you today nc,its me,dakine, buying all mine lately,sure is good,as good or better than what I put out

thCeasar

Sep 28 2007, 8:25 pm

Yeah I live in North Central Jersey, too. The other day I drove down a dead-end road that I pass on my way to work all the time. There was a cop sitting at the end of it and when I went around the col-de-sac he pulled me over and wouldn't accept the reason that I gave him for being there (just wanted to see what was back there, no joke.) He made me get out and looked into my car with his flashlight from the outside. I kept Stephen Marley going the whole time from the speakers while I waited... guy was such a douche about it.

Re: pissed off

Sep 28 2007, 6:44 am

"if it was legal he wouldn't have to worry "

Thats just it Dude ..it ain't AND its the whole point of the story .

Pissed off in Oregon

Sep 28 2007, 3:28 am

"Shouldnt you be more concerned about your son smoking marijuana?"

That pisses me off, If it was legal he wouldnt have to worry about his son getting busted by the cops! Which is a much bigger deal then the "dangers of smoking"! God bless america!

NJ resident

Sep 27 2007, 7:55 pm

The cops in NJ SUCK especially in Northern Central NJ. They are corrupt and will do anuything that it takes to get a bust. so are the local papers and court systems around here they dont serve to protect anyone, simply to fine people. I have seen the same thing time and time again up to 6 cops called out for a simple marijuana bust, and all the local districts preety much will call the K-9's at any chance they get. I know someone who was charged with dui recently, even thow they passed a blood test, and a breathaliser, because at the officers discretion they were under the influence. and this is a 40 year old man, being charged. If you plan to smoke in NJ remember... THIS IS A WAR you have to go into fucking hiding just to smoke a joint, the rural towns here have as many cops patrolling as if it were a suburb of NYC. There all overfunded and corrupt so watch your back, and make sure your son avoids getting busted again, because the courts will royaly fuck him over and take his liscence away etc etc etc, if he is busted again while on probation.

Grown Up in the Room

Sep 27 2007, 4:28 pm

Very few of you get it .

It doesn't matter what acually happened .. whats the story in court ?

Virginia Gentleman said it best . The prosecution has the burden of proof .They have to prove to a judge that everything is what they say it is .
The kids story (not plausible once the cop says he smelled it) is not convincing to me , and I don't think the judge will believe it either .
Bottom line , if there was no "roach" the whole incident would have been averted .
Soooooooo , pay attention and DON'T GIVE your ass to the cops !

THE NIGHTSTALKER

Sep 27 2007, 3:23 pm

Unfortunately...this does not appear to be an illegal search. The fact that the dog "alerted" to the vehicle gives the cops probable cause to search the vehicle. However..I am perplexed as to why they even did request a K-9 untit when the officer stated he smelled marijuana intially? That was the probable cause they needed right there. They did not even need a K-9 unit. 1 more thing in closing.... COPS LIE! THEY LIE EVERYDAY! THEY COMMIT PERJURY AND LIE UNDER OATH! THEY LIE AT TRAFFIC STOPS AND SAY THEY SMELLED MARIJUANA EVEN WHEN THEY DID NOT, JUST SO THEY CAN GET INTO THE INTERIOR OF YOUR CAR. BEWARE! NEVER CONSENT TO A SEARCH! WHETHER YOU ARE HOLDING CONTRABAND OR NOT!

MzLibertee

Sep 27 2007, 3:15 pm

UC police cars? Univ of Calif? if so, you weren't busted cuz u were on campus...not cuz u "talked" to them so nice. off campus in calif ur ass goes to jail for driving w/o a license, much less w/o registration and insurance. u're another snot-nosed brat. DON'T SMOKE IN THE CAR IDIOT!!!
but, i know how it is when u are a child...u don't have a house of your own so u try to do in the car [smoke, fuck] what u're supposed to do in the privacy of your own home...unless of course you become a subject of the FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] Court and Karl Rove...then in that case they will sick Scooter Libby on you and pardon him later.
IMPEACH BUSH! INCARCERATE CHENEY, ROVE, RUMMY & CONDI!!!

Sep 27 2007, 7:11 am

Most likely ...his mommy's .

Re: straightblownisgay

Sep 26 2007, 5:25 pm

Who's car was it ?

straightblownisgay

Sep 25 2007, 10:40 pm

it sed that the son didnt realize the roach was in his SISTERs car genius, how could he eat it???
this story reminds me of when 7 cop cars (no joke, 3 UC SUVs, 2 UC cars, 2 reg cars) pulled us over when they saw us blazing in an unregisterd car with an unlicensed driver. we ate the evidence n didnt end up in ne trouble but did lose the car. u just gotta talk to these pigs the right way

straightblown

Sep 25 2007, 5:16 pm

i would have eaten the roach

Charlie loves Valerie

Sep 25 2007, 2:14 pm

smoking marijuana is very relaxing.it calms your body and it relaxes your muscles.which means more longer and better sex.

Sep 24 2007, 8:41 pm

dont let the man get you down!!!!!

Re: Budsmoker

Sep 24 2007, 4:55 pm

Plus , taking a chance the dog will scratch the doors ...i'm just saying .

mrb0jangles420

Sep 24 2007, 3:16 pm

Don't let the man get you down!

budsmoker

Sep 24 2007, 1:52 pm

Correct. Usually if a officer does that when the subject does not give consent to the officer. They have a way around it such as- bringing a k-9 to the scene, and then will walk the dog around the car and if the dog gives any signs of detection than that is probable cause to search the car.Arent we all happy that this is where our tax dollars are going.

Re: MzLibertee

Sep 24 2007, 10:25 am

You're trying to give reality based facts to children . They just ain't gonna get it .

MzLibertee

Sep 22 2007, 5:14 pm

p.s. NEWSFLASH! yes, virginia, minors (people under 21 years of age in some cases) have NO CIVIL or CONSTITUTIONAL rights in this grand-old corporate dictaorship...thier "rights" are vested in their parents, legal guardians, or whoever feeds their ass, provides a roof over their head or is otherwise fiduciarily responsible for their broke, busted and generally un-self-sustaining underage butts! none whatsoever! yo mama own U like a slave. hello. sorry 2 brake da newz 2 U!!! [sic][thts latin for what i think of the US educational system....]

MzLibertee

Sep 22 2007, 5:06 pm

no, "wht r U thnkg!." anyone, i repeat, ANY-ONE, of what tender or ancient age, CAN be searched by a cop in this country! remember that, child, and pah-leeeze....LEARN HOW 2 SPELL & then learn how to type. stop texting and using GenX-onics to speak....(all this early-21st century text 'n email pseudo-spelling threatens to ruin good grammar quicker than 'Lamb's Bread.'
the moral: chances are if he had said 'yes' to the search they 1)would never have found the roach in the first place; or 2)let it go with a citation [or a warning] if they did find it, but b/c he said "no" they got pissed.....
It would have been easier to have said "yes."
If they had found it after his consensual search he could plead it was not his car, ergo not his roach. Now it looks like he knew the roach was there and was trying to prevent the police for searching. (Although the search by the K-9s was still a 'search' after he had said no.
....anyone can be searched b/c once a cop stops YOU the cop can search your person, or the part of your car under your immediate control for a concealed weapon (yes, incl'g the closed center console, but not if it or the glove-compartment is locked) for the purpose of protecting him/herself...this after the cop has stopped YOU! [the cop wouldn't be in danger of a potentially concealed weapon if they hadn't of stopped you in the 1st place, but that is besides the point in the eyes of The Law....
and, son, please dont' give legal advice until you have attended law school at the very least. :o

wth are you thinking

Sep 21 2007, 8:15 pm

i qoute: Lifted lable, As a minor you dont have rights. a cop can search a minor for any reason.Period.

dude what the hell kind of stuff are you smokeing. your pretty much saying that a minors 18 and under have no rights at all the right to refuse a search as the kid did. and your maranda rights (sorry for the mispelling). your pretty much looking at the dirty cop perspective. and btw if they do try to search your car or your person and they have no prob. cause *not speaking of this instance* they can do a terri search (agian sorry for spelling) which pretty much means they can oonly look for weapons ( guns, knives,etc) so every one dont pay attention to that retard acert your rights. learn your laws hell take a criminal justice class.

Re: If you break

Sep 21 2007, 5:22 pm

Do us a favor and follow your own advice ...kid.

Re: Nor-Cal Smoker

Sep 21 2007, 5:20 pm

"the letter clearly states that the son wasn't smoking "

The letter claearly states the kid SAID he wasn't smoking . The letter also clearly states the cop SAID he smelled weed .

if you break laws

Sep 21 2007, 4:30 pm

learn to use a gun.

COPS ARE NOT THERE FOR YOUR PROTECTION. THEY ARE THERE TO PROTECT THEIR OWN INTERESTS WHATEVER THEY MAY BE.

SAVE A DOUGHNUT, KILL A COP.

Nor-Cal Smoker

Sep 21 2007, 12:50 pm

The letter clearly states that the son wasn't smoking in the car....The roach was a product of his sister smoking in the car at another time. So, why is everybody calling him stupid? He was a victim but, not of the system....He was a victim of his sister's stupidity!

And regardless of how we feel the system should be, the reality is that the system is the way it is and if you don't want to be busted you must abide by the laws until we can change them otherwise, we just live up to the lousy expectations of law enforcement.

Lifted Label

Sep 21 2007, 12:03 pm

As a minor, you dont have rights. A cop can search a minor for any reason. Period.

Buzz Ard

Sep 21 2007, 6:11 am

to "GuerrillaMind'

Knowing the consequences of your actions may land you in jail but you do it anyway ...

Def of VICTIM : someone or something killed , hurt , sacrificed ... cheated, tricked or bullied .

Def of STUPID: foolish or silly

Sounds like stupid to me ....

Re: GuerrillaMind

Sep 21 2007, 5:50 am

"classic example of blaming the victim"

Thats an interesting take on reality . Knowing it was against the law , knowing they might get caught and doing it anyway makes them a victim , but not stupid ?
Things are a little different on this planet ....

Sep 20 2007, 11:35 pm

thanks its me,that makes sence,working alot now,dont have alot of time for my babies

GuerrillaMind

Sep 20 2007, 8:34 pm

those who say "its the kids' fault for smokin in the car" that is a classic example of blaming the victom. weed isn't bad in the first place and laws must be changed...not to mention our actual constitutional rights which get shitted on by the system daily. its not about whether they were stupid in gettin caught or not its about what you are being "caught" for in the first place. stand up for your rights - rights given because ur a human like everyone else not cus our country is so great and lets u off the hook.

its me

Sep 20 2007, 3:25 pm

Sorry I Havnt Been Around Much,Yes Your Mother Should Be Just Fine,Have Done The Same Thing Many Many Times...Cant Type Much...Cut Down The Diesels A Few Days Ago...Some Of Her Branches Were Over 10ft Each..Cough,Cough,Cough

Sep 19 2007, 9:41 pm

yeah its me,i cut my mother all the way down to the tinyist branches on the very bottom of the plant,it was gettin to big,what will happen,its surviving and growing back,will the cutting still be the same?have you ever done that????thanks

Re: shaman

Sep 19 2007, 6:34 pm

the reasonable cause , when court time comes around , will be the cop smelled pot . ( regardless if he really did)

Emphysema

Sep 19 2007, 5:21 pm

That is some major bullshit those cops should choke on a fat dick.

shaman

Sep 19 2007, 3:34 pm

hi ya the cops wrong fully d=search all the time your son did the right thing always say no to a search it is your right and that is not reasonble cause

420 Fighter

Sep 19 2007, 3:14 pm

fuck the system fight back, fuck the system fight back!!

don't give in to the system!!

never surrender!! fuck the system!!

you have rights! now do something and don't stop until you get what you want!!!

fuck the system!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhh!!!

Nor-Cal Smoker

Sep 19 2007, 1:36 pm

Right On, "Just a thought"!! I couldn't agree more....they're always jackin' up the street value of weed!!!

Washed out legal

Sep 19 2007, 9:16 am

and the scratchs on the door could be explained away as being the KIDS fault for not consenting to the search to begin with , which would also pass as reasonable cause to call for the dog ...
All because somebody couldn't refrain from partying in the vehicle ..

Just a thought

Sep 19 2007, 6:17 am

"cost of roach , $2.25"

Good thing the cops didn't figure that one . They would have given it a "street value" of $20.00 .......

Virginia Gentleman

Sep 19 2007, 6:06 am

The thing to realize here is this"
1) who has the most evidence in their favor ? The cop , claiming he smelled weed then finding the roach , or the kid who has a story that they've heard time and again . (its not mine )
2) the burden of proof IS on the cops but they have that covered .

What was the cause of all this commotion , son or daughter smoking weed in the car ?.... thats kinds asking for it .

John Doe

Sep 19 2007, 5:19 am

You'll find this will be difficult to beat . People should always insure the car STAYS clean . Had the cop said he smelled pot and found NOTHING you would be in a better position . (I realize a roach is next to nothing but the Judge won't see it that way .) I would go for damages to the vehicle for sure .

What?

Sep 19 2007, 2:53 am

What????

88mm

Sep 19 2007, 2:52 am

Minors have their records sealed when they turn 18.

Still, it's only sealed with scotch tape....I'm sure if he applied for a goverment job later, they would open up the file, regardless of what they might tell you...

My guess is that the cops used their intuition to detain the kid, and then waited for the dog to bark, shit, cough, or wag his tail. They call that "alerting" to the vehicle.

Then they search your vehicle, find the joint, and report to the judge.

It's a win-win for the cops; if they find something, they tell the judge "We thought he had pot in the car, so we called for the dog, he alerted to the vehicle, and we found pot"...then you are screwed.

If they don't find anything, they re-train the dog...they aren't perfect after all...darn false positives...

no typos this time...

Sep 18 2007, 9:41 pm

hey fire that attorney right now... your son is 17 so he can't go to jail and hire an injury attorney. Here you will have more money, and will make bigger news... gl with everything

friendian

Sep 18 2007, 6:45 pm

Definitely an illegal seizure, violating his 4th Amendment rights. You should have a very strong case against the pigs. Good luck. Fight like hell.

Voice of Reason

Sep 18 2007, 5:17 pm

I'd at least point out the cost of stupidity ..and then some . Everybody knows smoking in the car gets you busted ..

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