Busted Letter #121 – Compulsory Cooperation?

Don`t trust anyone1

Now im not a lawyer and dont want to seem as such however, I have had several mishaps if u will with the law. Vechicle searches vary by state because when u signed that license u got in ur wallet it says u consent to it and u agree so decipher that. If u say no when they say smell it fine they cant search on smell alone but they can and will bring drug dogs to the vechile the dog hits they search so u decide. As far as does your friend owe the police anything no absolutely not can he get a charge possibly yes however due to everything in this case it wont stick up in court but i would lawyer up asap!

will, please pull your head out of your ass. Saying no to a search is not probable cause AT ALL. The police have asked to search my car many times, and when i say no, although they do get pissed, they realize they are more or less beating a dead horse and drive away. Now of course one could get a crooked cop who violates your civil rights, but in that case charges will probably get dropped anyway. Stop giving people false information, as all it's doing is helping innocent stoners get arrested. JUST SAY NO (to a cop). Oh, and whenever a cop asks you something, give them the best answer you can: "I don't want to talk to you, I want to talk to my lawyer".

Just so you all know. For vehicles cops don't need a search warrant. Simply saying no to a search is probably cause.

jsut dont call them back, duh. they have nothing on you at this point. i would be shocked if they still had the tape from the cruiser, that means no record was made of this. if the cop had made one notation about finding weed on you hed be fired for not arresting you because his superior would be pissed (hed be pissed the cop didnt arrest your freind for the fine money that gets funneled back into the cop departments budget, not because he has anything against weed)

its too late for the cop, dont call him back. block the number, they have nothing on your buddy. if he comes to your house dont even open the door for him, just dont answer and wait for him to leave.

The NORML freedom card is useful for this situation. Your friend needs to take responsibility. Why should someone else get in trouble? Smell can be enough for a warrant for your car. Just keep driving the speed limit until the evidence is gone. You are not committing any crime by driving to a location in which you feel safe. Never cooperate with the cops but there are exceptions to every rule. If you KNOW you are busted is one case. If you treat them like they are stupid, then they will fuck you IF they can. I was caught smoking a blunt in my car. The blunt was still burning. They asked me what I was doing. I told them they knew what I was doing. One cop got a little snippy while the other one commented on the smell of weed. The snippy cop thought I was being smart. I explained it was obvious I was smoking pot and did not think he was stupid. They asked me if I had anything else and I told them I would have to search my hiding spots to make sure. I turned over a once and they lectured me about how stupid I was for being where I was and gave me tips on how not to get caught. They explained that weed was the least of their concerns and to look out for the younger cops because they were not cool. They also explained what they could charge me with and that they could take my car. I was 18 at the time with a 17 year old with me. That meant I could have been busted for contributing to a minor. They asked me were I bought it and I told them from a black guy in a caddy on the bad side of town. When they ran us for warrants, he commented that I wasn't going to give them any information. When everything came back clean, they said to get in my car and leave. I was very stoned because the blunt they caught me with was the 2nd of the night. I thought they might be entrapping me to get a DUI. But I did as he said and left. Not all bad, because I found the blunt that I put out in the ashtray as I left. The cops never went in my car. They stole the once though.

Talkers and snitches get walkers and stitches

fuck stitches, snitches belong in the ditches

They did that just to see if you would given them any information.

Snitches get stitches my friend.

I forgot one critical thing in my post below, COPS ARE PROFESSIONALS!

When they give you the "Give it to me before I find it" line, it's because they have no reason to search you.

You'll note almost every time they don't ASK if they can search, they say they have probable cause, but then all of the sudden we're waiting for the canine unit?

When you hand them a bag of reefer, they now have everything they need.

This concept is called "manipulation".

Wait a minute, police would never manipulate you. What was I thinking?????

It amazes me how people still don't understand the simple concept of keeping their mouth shut.

First off, when a cop asks if they can search your vehicle, remember, there is no law that says you have to open your mouth.

The less you say, the better. Be very selective in the questions you choose to answer.

If you are an idiot, and just can't shut up, dodge the question by changing the subject, or asking a question of your own.

If you don't already know, now would be a good time to find out why you were stopped.

That is the reason you are on the side of the road, and the cop is burning taxpayers gas money.

Once properly informed of the issue, simply figure out how to solve the problem.

Example:

Cop: "I pulled you over because your license plate light doesn't produce 75 lumens."

You: "Oh, I was unaware of that officer, but thank you so much for pointing that out. I will have to get that fixed right away, so I don't waste anymore city resources. Am I being cited for this?"

Now, here's the important thing. YOU HAVE TO ASK "AM I BEING CITED FOR THIS VIOLATION?"

If not waiting on a citation, then you have to ask "AM I BEING PLACED UNDER ARREST?".

If the answer to both of those questions is no, you are free to leave. Inform the police officer that you appreciate his/her service to the community, but that you must be on your way since you are not required to waste anymore of your precious time.

A good rule to remember is:

If you answer more than 2 questions, you need to stop talking.

This is another case of bull shit. "smelling" weed is not probable cause to search a viechile. It is important to remember that the ONLY way he has probable cause is if he sees weed or a pipe. Alot of times cops will ask 2 part questions to get you to forfieght your right against unfair searches, its important to be smart if your going to smoke because the cops are assholes they think there all big when they bust us weed smokers

He don't have to do sh!t
they released him without arresting him or giving him a date to return to face charges .Tell your freind to tell them to kiss his azz

NO! Do not tell them shit. Tell them you never had a bag of marijuana. You didn't right? I don't remember seeing in any law book a chapter saying police can confiscate evidence and in return let the criminal free for snitching!? Do you know where that is!? Fuck them, They probably smoked the shit, you never had it, you don't even know why they're fucking with you, tell them to leave you alone and get bent!

If you get a summons, dont go. Have an attorney call the judge and explain what you just told us. They should drop the charge (Depending on the state) and you should just be able to pay $200 in court fees and it will be esponged from your record.
But I would like to say on the behave of all stoner, your "Friend" is a little bitch for opening his mouth, its not about giving names, its just that you cooperated with the crooked law inforcement, and that makes you a alittle bitch.
Besides, he should have just eatin the Bud, there wasnt that much.

to. busted later#121
He should just keep his mouth shut from her on,and don't every believe a pig no mater what they offer they will always fuck him over and then he is know for being a rat and will be siting in jail not good. If the big dint give him a ticket he has no proof of any thing happening.I have been dealing with pigs all my life I know how they work so my advise is just don't tell them any thing else act like he dose not know what they are talking about.

bryan hey it must be the only way you get her done and your karma is what makes this really sweet "cuz you still do not realize your sucking your own destiny tough guy

ha ha this story is funny. only cause i aint n e one that knows you. news. it aint the cops u should worry about. its the people u snitched on. there is a thing called motion 4 discovery, allows the defendant to view ALL evidence against him, statements ect. u co operate with the po po, ur name will b in that folder. u fucked up. consented 2 a search, then not only told on urself, told on someone else! suck it up, either way ur fucked, better less fucked now, than more later. an they want more help cause most likely ur dealer is smarter than u, an they cant find him, so they wany more details. say no, and u gotta go for an urgent appointment, then hang up the phone. easy. then make sur u try to follow all laws and watch 4 cops. be an adult. take responsability for your own actions. sincerily, "rather be hated 4 who i am, than loved 4 who im not'

I am a cop and i love to pull over people, and when I find weed on them I tell them to suck my dick and I'll let them go. After thry do I lock them up anyways

Don't be a snitch! You will never be able to live it down! Everytime you puff on a "j" you'll think to yourself "man why did I do that?" Contact an attorney and get your rights!

Damn man you should never snitch on fellow smokers or hook ups....your first mistake was consenting to the search and giving up what you had....your second was giving any info to them....you should have taken the consequences and fought it in court than to get scared and give up your stash and hook up. Never consent to a search....never tell the cops anything without a lawyer present to tell you how and if to answer....and ALWAYS ALWAYS KNOW YOUR RIGHTS

Id say I dont know what you are talking about mr policeman.....they cant make it stick and wont even try for that small amount.Now with some real balls he could say "what did you do with the rest of that pound"!

THAT IS ABOUT A DUMBASS QUESTION TO ASK, OF COURSE YOU CAN STILL GET A POSSESSION CHARGE....WHAT AN IDIOT...

Get a Lawyer!

Now why would this kid want to "fuck'em" . Hes trying to get out of being any help at all and you think he should have sex with them ?

fuck 'em',they can't do shit after 2 months

oh, i dont know its me, hows your hand? been with the ww strain, trippy man.

Asking a bunch of stoners for legal advice? Are you sure it wasn't crack you was smokin? Seriously, get a lawyer, and don't roll over no matter how many times the law tells you to, Fido.

Whats Up wh? How Ya Been?

dont trust anyone.

What CAN happen is the police can still issue a warrant for your friends arrest IF he doesnt cooperate. When the officer took the weed he wrote a report obviously that named your friend as the suspect for possession of the weed but indicated that he would help police for not getting arrested. So yes, your friend still can be arrested for the weed the cop took. Generally for a misdameanor amount the police have up to 2 years in which to obtain a warrant, so just becuase the officer let him go then doesnt mean he cant still get in trouble if he doesnt cooperate.

YOU have no duty to the local Police departments.
Your friend gave up his rights when he went into public. If he had been legal with his ride, this would not have happened.

I find it humerous, that we always ask for our right to privacy and the right do as we want, but when it comes to anything OUTSIDE of the privacy of the home, we are quick to ignore the rules we must follow.
Any thing in the public is up for the rules of the public...If we truely want our rights AND privacy, we must learn where those end and begin.

We cannot ask for our rights to be upheld, by ignoring someone elses.....

Several years ago, a jilted ex girlfriend called the local drug task force, saying I was dealing out of my apt., which was a total lie. The coppers showed up, my roomie let them in (dumbfuck!). They woke me up, searched the whole place and only came up with a couple of seeds and some stems. They said they wouldn't haul me in then, if I rolled on someone. I told them to go piss up a rope. They gave me their card and left, telling me to contact them if I changed my mind. I threw their card away and never thought any more about it. ^ months later I moved out of state. I went to get my driver's license in the new state and was informed that I had a felony warrant out for me from the state where the coppers raided me. I inquired about the warrant and was told it was for felony posession of cannabis. Felony! stems and seeds! I hired a lawyer from the HT list and was railroaded into a plea deal..... If I had been willing to roll on someone, this would have went away, but since I ain't no snitch, I now have a cannabis conviction on my record, that along with 6 mos. of probation, drug tests and fines. FTP!

depends. any paperwork from the incedent gives the police 7 years to arrest, after that statute of limitations is over. if theres no paperwork id tell my lawyer to let them know they can go fuck themselves. the guy shouldve been a responsible head and taken the charge instead of cooperating further.

No you don't have any obligation but you should be extra careful now because the police know who you are now and will probably be keeping an eye on you.

it is wise not to ever give the cops a reason to bust you. dont carry more than you intend to use, if you must procure a large amount it is most wise to have it delivered to a safe location.mmmmmthis is good,good bubble hash, I make everything into hash now, its the bomb, white widow, yummy!

mmmmm, ive run into this before, lets see? heres your chance to work with the police, sounds fair enough! If you think your life is not worth much,go ahead but I would seek legal help, and not a rookie.

a big NO, the police must have all CDS tested to verify its nature, the only way they can confiscate and test a suspected CDS from an individual is by arrest, if there is no arrest report and no lab results for evidence of a CDS in an individuals name there is no case

got out of a possesion charge 3 years ago on lack off evidence

Put a lot of thought into that did ya ?

FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont do anything and tell him to get an attorney, record the phone call with the police explaining why the kid should help. If he brings up the night and how long it was then he catch a fucking harrasment charge i promise you this motherfucker will get pounded if he says we are going to lock you up if you dont cooperate. it will bring on some heat if officer doesnt go anywhere. It has now become blackmail. One thing is the judge is going to say how many times would he have to do this his hole life. That is how they turn motherfuckers into career snitches. I promise you the motherfucker will catch a fucking charge if yall get him on tape. get caller id and get a lawyer for real man. Call the news station as soon as you get the conversation and leak it. It will protect you from them fucking with you in the future. When you expose them then they have to stop fucking with you to preserve the citizens perception of the police. Not only that its election time. The apposing party will use it against the police department and he will run on a reform the police platform. You will probably even get to be at the campaign and shit.

Pulled over for a tail light ? Man you sound like you're a white guy . Now you can't even cry about racism .
Welcome to MY world .

i kinda doubt that this letter is really about your "friend".

can't really offer any advice for your "friend" but i hope it all works out for "him".

in some states(like New Jersey) possession of under fifty grams of weed is a disorderly persons offense. They have up to six months to charge you on a complaint summons inleiu of a arrest. Plain view and plain smell go hand in hand, and the fact that it was in a vehicle causes the automobile exception to come into play. The cop probably logged the evidence and wrote a report on the incident. You should ask a lawyer for advice and get a copy of the report.

fuck no. he should book it to mexico. but i thought that only if the officer saw the contraband could he search the car.

Like TCB says, the most powerful personal civil right Americans possess is the right to keep silent and thus not to incriminate oneself. This will require the authorities to make their case in court and this is a much more difficult proposition to deal with than the convenience of a confession obtained through intimidation and trickery.

No!,your friend should call any lawyer,never talk and never belive a cops when he wants to search your car or home.If they ask to search that means they have NO reason to,When they tell you they'll make things easyer thats BS to.I've said in the past (is their some reason you want to search my car?)then they know that their dealing with somebody who knows their rights!Same at home,they come to your door for whatever reason walk out side and shut the door to your home and say how can I assist officer?HT you guys should put up some ACLU vidios on rights!It could save alot of people who unknowingly give up their rights to cops lying and using tricks on citizens.protect yourself!KNOW YOUR RIGHTS!IN POLICE ENCOUNTERS!!!

u fucking dipshit ur a dumb snitch dont rat on someone and pass ur trouble on u idiot

You complain alot about being black . We all feel sorry for you but can do nothing about it .

sounds like ur thinkin bout snitchin.. aint a good idea to begin with, reguardless if there's consequences coming ur way.
real men dont say no names

IT sound like your friend is african american... stopped for a tail light? thats the kind of shit WE deal with everyday , welcome to MY WORLD .Living in the hood we learn the simple laws quickly . NOTHING ON PAPER THEN FUCK THEM.( and that my friend is legal.)

Excellent advice. Much better written and far more useful than my comments. It bugs me when people roll over so willingly. Like dogs begging for a treat. And because of such foolishness. The busted letters on this site astonish me, that people can be so easy to manipulate. I wrote a good piece under the 'NORMLIZER' article under the "HT Features" list, I hope you read it.

Excellent. You have the correct attitude. I like a lot of the reactions so far, but your's was pretty much right on. I also liked 'are you serious', 'yo', 'John Doe', 'moldy', 'JimCrackKorn', 'Advisor', and the first 2 or 3 sentences from 'blunt doctor'. However, I wouldn't recommend telling a police officer to "go fuck himself". When in doubt, stay silent. This is your 5th amendment right. When a cop asks you a question, don't answer right away, they're just doing their JOB. Scratch your chin and think. When they push you to answer, calmly say "I'm considering the question". If they continue to pressure you, remember these phrases:
"No". Or, "I'm thinking", or "I'd rather talk to my lawyer first". Aside from that, remember, when in doubt, STAY SILENT, SAY NOTHING. Let them take you in (if it even comes to that), then demand a lawyer, either your own or a public defender free of charge. The most important thing is, when in doubt, stay silent. Also, NEVER submit to a search! When they ask why, or "what do you have to hide", your answer should ALWAYS be, "Fourth Amendment." If they ask further questions, say "Fifth Amendment". Then don't say a word until your free lawyer shows up. The greatest "Fuck You" that you can give to a cop is your SILENCE. They hate it because they have no LEGAL defense against it. Their only defense is to break the laws that they are sworn to uphold. Make THEM break those laws before you EVER submit to their searches or their questions, unless they start to beat the shit out of you, then tell them whatever they want or sign whatever they tell you to sign and deal with it in court later. Otherwise, just tell them your name and basic personal information.

Just tell your friend to say he went into "town", and asked around. Nothing specific.

Seeing as marijuana is an illegal substance, the cops job is to take it from you and charge you for it. If he didnt write you up the moment he took it from you, and just let you go they have nothing on you. If for some stupid reason they decide to bring it up 2 months later, take it to court and tell the judge they bribed you out of getting busted, and they will drop the charges.

John Doe hit the nail squarely on the head . Play dumb and see what happens .

NO, plane and simple the statue of limitations was done away with thoe.

Oh, the old "tale light out" collar. Anymore it seems just driving is a reason to be pulled over. So toking and driving ain't cool, even if you're "cool". Anybody under 80 years old is a suspect these daze. Even if your buddy is stupid (young) it's still a shame this shit continues in "a free country".

Damn busted dude!
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time .
Must be a stupid kid .

Wow, that's the kind of crap that happens when the rule is broken...

one crime at a time!

What part of KNOW YOUR RIGHTS don't you understand? You gave up your source and now thay want more. And you want to know if you have to give it up? Do you even have a functioning brain cell in your head? Keep your mouth shut and stand up for yourself. And stop being so willing to pass off your troubles onto other people. You are the asshole stupid enough to light up in your car. Don't you know better? You are the fool who gave up another name (or location). What the hell are you doing driving around with a light out with almost an ounce in possession and while pretending to be Cheech or Chong? And you would even think about passing this BS onto someone else? You fucked up, now you have to stand up. Passing heat to someone else for the consequences of your own stupidity is inexcusable.

Your friend has a chance IF no documentation was generated that night . (anything with a signature )The cops have policies and procedures they must adhere to and may have lost their chance to exploit the situation . Play dumb and see what happens .

In most cases he has a year to cite you for a misdemeanor.

cooperate bro. take the wicked herb out of the hands of terrorists and grow your own.

Talk to a lawyer before you make any more stupid mistakes.