Woman Killed While Acting As Police Informant After Pot Bust
Sun, May 18, 2008 10:50 am
Source: Tampa Bay News
Irv Hoffman and Margie Weiss wondered Friday how their only child went from police informer to murder victim.
Rachel Hoffman, 23, who grew up in Pinellas County and recently graduated from Florida State University, was found dead in a rural area near Tallahassee two days after she disappeared while helping police with a narcotics investigation.
On Friday evening, her parents gathered with friends in their daughter's Tallahassee apartment. They railed against the Tallahassee Police Department for putting their daughter in harm's way and then blaming her for getting killed.
"It's like sending a lamb into the den with the lions," said Irv Hoffman, 58, of Palm Harbor.
Before Rachel Hoffman disappeared, Weiss remembered getting a call from her daughter, who planned to come home for Mother's Day.
"She asked me to pray for her," Weiss said. "She was going to do something that was dangerous."
Hoffman's parents wondered why police allowed a young woman with no police training to make such a dangerous rendezvous. So far, many of their questions have gone unanswered.
Last year, Hoffman was charged with felony marijuana possession. Then, she failed to appear in court. Her parents think she felt pressured to help police to clear her name.
According to the Tallahassee Democrat, police announced Friday that Hoffman faced multiple felony charges when she agreed to pose as a buyer. On Wednesday, she was supposed to purchase 1,500 pills of ecstasy, 2 ounces of cocaine or crack cocaine and a gun.
Police said she didn't follow protocol, leaving officer supervision to go with Andrea J. Green and Deneilo Bradshaw, now suspects in her disappearance and her death. Green has spent time in prison on charges of selling marijuana and aggravated assault with a weapon.
"Unfortunately, Rachel chose to ignore precautions established in a previous briefing as well as the direction of her case agent," police Chief Dennis Jones said.
The Florida Department of Law Enforcement arrested Green and Bradshaw on Thursday in Orlando, according to the Democrat. On Friday, they led police to Hoffman's body and were charged with armed robbery and kidnapping.
A graduate of Countryside High School in Clearwater, Hoffman majored in psychology at FSU. Later, she realized her passion was cooking and planned to go to culinary school in Arizona.
Hoffman's father described her as an affectionate person who loved her cat Bently and sought thrills: skydiving, traveling in Europe and the Middle East, parasailing, even riding in a hot-air balloon.
"In 23 years she probably did more than most people do in 60 years," Irv Hoffman said.
Weiss, of Safety Harbor, said the marijuana possession was a minor offense that shouldn't have landed her in such trouble.
"They destroyed her whole life and her future," Weiss, 57, said. "My daughter's life has been taken away from me."






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kinder
Jul 2 2008, 3:26 pm
troubledntally
Jul 2 2008, 1:43 am
WTF??????????????
kinder
Jun 29 2008, 10:30 am
Once again thank you, and i too wish no harm for my fellow man.People should not be so blind in their vision, you get what you give, people have a choice, give love or give hate
or at least wait for the facts,or if you could walk a mile in her shoes.
PEACE
troubledntally
Jun 28 2008, 10:56 pm
I'm not advocating anyone's violent death for their beliefs.
What I hope is that more people will realize that,whether you now, or ever,or never smoked pot, The law affects you. You pay for the enforcement of this law. Are YOU registered to vote? We have to get active, there's too many of us to be ignored. We have to vote, we have to push the people who want our vote to earn it.This will be Rachel Morningstar Hoffman's best memorial. Work to change the law. Vote, Have an Impact.
Peace
kinder
Jun 28 2008, 8:01 pm
be served and while doing so alot of heads are going to roll. As well they should.
NOW ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO SAY SHE GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO HER,
LOOKOUT!!!!!!!
CAUSE YOU ARE GONNA GET WHAT'S COMING TO YOU.
NOW THATS MY JUDGEMENT!
kinder
Jun 28 2008, 7:14 pm
THANKX.
troubledntally
Jun 28 2008, 3:31 am
She was shot multiple times with a .25 caliber gun. Then they announce that she's 'missing'and proceed to smear her with felony charges that she was never arrested for,and the state attny was unaware of. Dad offers a $150k reward for her return. Less than 24 hrs after they 'lost' her,they found the guys they'd "never heard of" in Orlando,200 miles away. They got a scared, naive 23 year old girl killed. To everyone who thinks she got what she deserved,You can kiss my A**, and if you die a violent death in any way, police 'protection' or not, you'll have gotten what YOU deserve. Narc or not, nothing she did justifies her death.
July 12,2008 year of Bushit, come to Quincy,FL for the Purple Hat Music Festival to benefit the Morningstar Foundation. Peace
Cheezy
Jun 24 2008, 8:47 pm
????????
Jun 17 2008, 5:04 pm
narcotic nazi
May 23 2008, 4:31 pm
Jimbob
May 22 2008, 3:35 pm
Okla420
May 22 2008, 1:37 pm
Right now her parents have set up a foundation to help push legislation that requires that a suspect be given legal counsel before acting as a police informant as well as to decriminalise pot in Florida.
CRAVERLOK
May 21 2008, 10:51 am
MARTINA
May 21 2008, 4:07 am
KINDER
May 20 2008, 9:38 pm
kinder
May 20 2008, 9:32 pm
Green and Bradshaw, where aressted for kidnapping and
another charge. And then leading the cops to the body.
Where is the pending MURDER CHARGE?
Slater
May 20 2008, 8:41 pm
The police asked her what all she could get, and she told them.
It sounds like they figured out what she was doing (Not the first time) and unloaded a clip into her chest.
She agreed from the beggining.
Haha, but you know what they say,
God Bless America, the Greatest Country on Earth.
totalbummer
May 20 2008, 8:13 pm
the fact is if the law wasn't fucked this wouldn't be an issue , keep fighting with and turning on each other...
the oldest trick in the book of mass mind control...
nice.
ZitO
May 20 2008, 5:34 pm
Slater
May 20 2008, 5:18 pm
Be the bigger person and just ignore it.
If you give in, he will just win.
Yep
May 20 2008, 4:55 pm
It must be really,really hard for you to get things right,
you know with your breathing problem and all.Go eat a donut.
Better yet, I'm having a PIG roast, love ta have ya over!!
Jimbob
May 20 2008, 4:21 pm
Keep it pertinant, and Ill listen. Spew garbage, and we will all know you're full of shit.
okla420
May 20 2008, 4:12 pm
The fact is, drug dealers and narcotics officers are not nice people. Drug dealing is not a "nice" business. It blows my mind that police would send in someone who apparently just had a possesion of marijuana charge (felony or not) to go buy a bunch of blow, weed and a gun is simply incredulous. The police exploited this young lady by making her promises about her failure to appear in court and criminal record.
Drug dealing is a violent business, and hopefully the people who killed her get what they deserve. This is exactly what is wrong with prohibition..you put money and guns into the hands of people who have no qualms at all to resort to violence to make a buck or two
to the dick below be
May 20 2008, 4:10 pm
Mature Adult
May 20 2008, 4:02 pm
Everbody supposed to yell at you now ? Not getting enough attention at home ? You poor little thing .
The righteous one
May 20 2008, 3:22 pm
Jimbob
May 20 2008, 7:58 am
Anyone who says that the cold blooded killing oh nieve, scared, and dumb people is a good thing, are sick. It boggles my mind when they can think THEY are good people.
Maybe later on when they see killing doesnt do anything but get more of the same, well maybe then Ill change my ideas of them, but untill that point, they are sad, sad people.
Wow
May 19 2008, 11:32 pm
T-Boner
May 19 2008, 10:34 pm
sittinginessex
May 19 2008, 9:14 pm
kinder
May 19 2008, 6:15 pm
This is what the war on drugs has come to, it makes people
act like this,post like this,feel like this (shitty).
The people she trusted let her down,and they say she did not follow proceedure.What cop would'nt want to cover his own ass when the shit hits the fan.
Now some of you posters have seen my post before, and i must say,was the girl right or wrong,most of you have already answered,I can,t say myself.And the worst part of this stroy is it,s gonna happen again and again and again.
END THE WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
PEACE PS I CANNOT BE THE JUDGE THERE ARE
SO MANY ALREADY.
sittinginessex
May 19 2008, 6:09 pm
Jimbob
May 19 2008, 5:47 pm
I think Ill take your advice.
To any of you whom I offended. Good, you felt, you thought, and you drew a line, and defended it; right or wrong.
The only ones of us whom can truely win this argument are the ones that learn from each point of view. The key is to use that to develope and learn how to change YOU, while still being true to who and what you are.
umm
May 19 2008, 4:32 pm
Lack of love and intolerance for others brings out the worst in people.
When will people learn it isn't nice to not be nice.
Let Love, and Cannabis rule.
sittinginessex
May 19 2008, 4:06 pm
We will have to agree to disagree on this issue.
Mature Adult
May 19 2008, 4:03 pm
Snitches should be set up not knocked off . Self defense is the only acceptable reason for taking another life .
Jimbob
May 19 2008, 3:23 pm
But I refuse to think it a good thing that she was MURDERED, not killed.
I refuse to gleefully cheer at her execution. I know plenty about the real world, and I also know that the ONLY way things EVER change is if YOU make them change. I will not sit by and go along with actions or ideals I feel are wrong. I know plenty of violence, too much for my age maybe.
Perhaps that is why I choose to respect life, no matter if others do the same. It is the only way I know how to convey how fucking serious I am about detesting murder, with out becoming a zelot.
As far as sticking to my opinions; How much is a person's word worth if it is easily, and unthoughtfully changed?
If you read my posts carefully, I never said any of you were wrong, and I never tried to convince any of you I am right. I stated my opinion, and asked questions. Just because I may think you are a tool, but that doesnt make your word any less valueable in civil discourse. That is what we are attempting to do here correct? Civil Discourse?
Slater
May 19 2008, 3:00 pm
sittinginessex
May 19 2008, 2:45 pm
BOTTOM LINE: THIS BITCH KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING WAS WRONG AND COULD GET HER KILLED, BUT SHE DID IT ANYWAY. WHERE WAS HER RESPECT FOR HER OWN LIFE?
Jimbob
May 19 2008, 1:11 pm
WE ALL AGREE:
1)Snitches are shitty people.
2) The community punishment for it should be SEVERE.
3) Murder, true cold blooded murder, is commited by shitty people.
4) The punishment for murder should be SEVERE.
My statement is: The punishment for snitching does not equal the punishment for murder, or should it?
If it should, then which one of you sanctamonious, bloodthirsty, and deluded folks will volunteer to be Executioner?
I have no sympathy, empathy, or kind feelings for that girl. She was an adult, and made her bed. What I have a problem with is ghoulish cheerleaders shrieking:
She got what she deserved, snitches and ditches, and all the other bullshit you tell yourself to try and make it ok you are cheering and HAPPY about the destruction of another human being.
uncle stoney
May 19 2008, 12:37 pm
But seriously, back to what really happned, She messed up. Plain and simple. 1. trying to nark people out, 2. going into a drug deal alone and a female, 3 for allowing the police to basically blackmail her ass into doing it.
It is really sad sorry, but when your dealing with the cops and drugs(not herb) your asking for trouble. Just another piece to the reasons why certain drugs should be legal. You want a war on drugs people, Legalize the fucking Plant. Have the DEA and local police go after the real drugs that get people killed like this girl. Best thing I could say to help stupid shit like this to stop is, Contact your senators and reps of your state. Enough is enough of stupid deaths.
I know I went a ways off the topic at the end, but come on. We all know that the only way we can make a difference is for all of us to work together.
big baby jesus
May 19 2008, 12:08 pm
Jimbob
May 19 2008, 9:36 am
I keep seeong "Dont do the crime if you cant do the time."
I thought about that. It isnt " Dont do the crime if you think there aare snitches about, and your ass is gonna get caught." Why is that?
Because if YOU are being snitched on YOU are a criminal. If you are a criminal you are doing crime. Reguardless of snitches, you do crime, you do time. Snitches are a part of crime, they have been since crime existed.
So your idea to murder them all falls through, because they are ubiquitous, not just through cultures, but time as well.
But hey, you all know this right. Just like 2+2=9.
Oh well. I managed to stir the pot, but no good arguments fell out. I must say Im a bit let down that in 2 days time, no one could find a compelling way to convince me we should MURDER all snitches.
For the ones of you in the "Death To Snitches" camp, think about this: Would you like a murderer's hands all over your woman, you sister, your mother, your family. Some one who so rashly can snuff out life unthinkingly? Well, when you hug your mom on christmas, or your lil bro at the game, remeber you dirty fuck, those are a cold blooded killers paws, that are shakein hands with your loved ones.
Again, I dont condone snitching, or cold blooded killing, they are both VILE acts of WEAK minds. Just make sure you want that blood all over YOUR hands, when you tell some one "GOOD JOB!" for taking the life of an unarmed school girl you manly man you. Maybe you should build a bonfire, cook them and eat the evidence? Then you can find another catchy phrase like "snitches get ditches", but for canabalizing the murder victim, instead.
A few of you sound more like hardened cold blooded hopeless people who just want a little payback on any random person they can reach. I really do feel sorry for you.
wheels&pills
May 19 2008, 7:54 am
:o)
May 19 2008, 5:25 am
I don't see that info , where'd you get that from ?
Cpt Stoner
May 19 2008, 4:25 am
Legalize it !
This would not have happened if she just road it out...first time felony would be knocked down to a misdomeaner with probation and maybe a year in time.
Moral of the story.....
Snitches are found in ditches or make nice bitches.
highjack
May 19 2008, 12:53 am
"Adam, what do you know you dick, faggot, son of a flea. I'm not an informer and I've been arrested and convicted many times and I never sing like a bird."
Is that enough for you you son of a bitch mother fucker.
danksnugs69
May 18 2008, 10:16 pm
droey421
May 18 2008, 9:49 pm
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 9:36 pm
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 9:33 pm
Adam
May 18 2008, 8:38 pm
Adam
May 18 2008, 8:36 pm
highjack
May 18 2008, 8:14 pm
highjack
May 18 2008, 8:08 pm
Translation:
My sympathy towards the parents of this beautiful young girl. If we look into this matter on a deeper side we will see that the only criminal against Marijuana is the law itself. See what happened.
Adam
May 18 2008, 8:08 pm
highjack
May 18 2008, 7:51 pm
highjack
May 18 2008, 7:46 pm
highjack
May 18 2008, 7:41 pm
I feel sorry for her parents but anyway she is responsible for her ownself.
BigbudT
May 18 2008, 7:38 pm
highjack
May 18 2008, 7:34 pm
Slater
May 18 2008, 7:34 pm
Ive gotten busted with with 35grams and got off with a warning. (But then again im middle aged and look like a decent citizen).
Haha, I cant beleive this whole thing has turned into a debate. There is one and only one fact here.
Snitches, get ditches. Its a code. I hope everyone learns to follow, dont bring others down because you were dumb enough to get caught.
JK
May 18 2008, 6:59 pm
Aevilgar
May 18 2008, 5:54 pm
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 4:59 pm
ArmySoldier666
May 18 2008, 4:52 pm
Aevilgar
May 18 2008, 4:44 pm
usedbongs.com
May 18 2008, 4:42 pm
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 4:32 pm
krissy9135
May 18 2008, 4:31 pm
the bear
May 18 2008, 4:31 pm
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 4:24 pm
If you are not willing to do the time, don't do the crime. Why do you thing my first comment of Snitches get ditches caused so much fuss? Because of internet wussies like you who would probably not have the nerve to argue this point in public. I would.
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 4:11 pm
Jimbob
May 18 2008, 3:59 pm
If it makes me a jackass to value life...well Im guilty.
BTW which one of you would pull the trigger on her? She deserves it right? BEcause which one of you is going to do the deed? Which one?
You wont answer honestly here I know. But Obviously at least some of ya are neardowell pastie faced interweb geeks.
From your points of view, why arent you out there blasting snitches insted of bantering with me? There's rats that need a killin. With the exception of a few folks here, sounds like we have a regular execution squad going on. Huego Chavez is looking fo good people I hear.
Bunch of hard dick killers in the room here? Via con Diablos interwussies.
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 3:59 pm
But I will sit here and feel sorry for her because she was not willing to face her consequences. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 3:45 pm
707stoner
May 18 2008, 3:35 pm
Jimbob
May 18 2008, 3:34 pm
So if you think snitches should die, do you condone murder?
What cant it be like it was when I was in a clandestine group? Snitches got beaten severly, but not killed.
Single mom eh? What happens to you when those same fuckin cops parade you past YOUR people, then 5 mins later start arresting them? How's your life as a single mom going to go then? And you didnt even do anything. So do you or dont you condone murder. Your vreation of some more lopsided progeny is irrelavant to me, you caught, you do your bit, you move on. But I dont see anything in there about taking some one's life.
THAT is what I was talking about. Not if snitches were good or bad. I think there is a conscensus that snithching is a shitty, and dangerous thing to do. If you do it you are in peril. But how the FUCK do you justify thinking its good that girl is dead, and be a parent at the same time blows my mind.
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 3:33 pm
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 3:27 pm
Jimbob
May 18 2008, 3:22 pm
Thats almost as weak as your internet thuggery. Im a head, I just respect life as a gift, and I think very deeply before I end a life's existance. If that makes me a cop, then I guess the definition's changed.
Maybe, you little twat, I have seen ENOUGH God Damned bloodshed in my life, and I like to express MY opinion about it. I honestly dont care how YOU specificlly lead, or end your life. I do think that trying to spread fear and agitation with catchy little phrases, like you do so well, is the benchmark of an ignorant mind, or a fearful child.
Maybe you were a snitch some time in your life, now you rally so hard against them so none of us will smell the stench of your hipocracy. Unfortunately, your behaviour wafts the odure of your stinky secret.
Intolerance is what keeps Ganja illegal. Intolerance is what puts people in their graves early, and intolerance is just as much an enemy to our cause as the DEA itself.
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 3:19 pm
sittinginessex
May 18 2008, 3:13 pm
Hey dumbshit
May 18 2008, 2:56 pm
People on here are just voicing their opinions and your trying to be a douchebag telling us that we're wrong and that we're going to die. You sound just like a fucking cop.
Go fuck yourself.
Joe
May 18 2008, 2:51 pm
Jimbob
May 18 2008, 2:32 pm
You fucking morons are parrots for people who want you to NOT think for yourself. Its no better than the government. Here I was thinking some of us might actually VALUE life.
Oh well, you'll meet your own end soon enough I guess. Let me know how it feels when the blade slides deep, or when the bullets shatter your bones. Maybe you'll be lucky and get garotted, or burned to death.
Hey, but when you smell your own burning flesh and know no one will bring justice for the taking of your life, you will have fulfillment of knowing: You arent a snitch.
I dont have any love for snitches, but I certinly have NO room for morons who cant even value the fienite existance in which we do get to partake.
Slater
May 18 2008, 2:26 pm
Let that be a lesson to anyone who's even thinking about snitching.
420
May 18 2008, 2:14 pm
miggavelly
May 18 2008, 1:31 pm
shellinessex
May 18 2008, 1:19 pm
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