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UPDATE: OVERGROW OFFLINE
Popular Canadian cannabis website disappears amid owner's alleged arrest.
Tue, Feb 07, 2006 11:23 am
source: HIGH TIMES
In a developing story, sources now indicate to HIGH TIMES that the owner/operator of Overgrow, Cannabisworld, Heaven's Stairway Seeds and Eurohemp has been arrested and has since been released. Earlier reports that suggested Overgrow's web servers may have been seized as part of an ongoing investigation have since been denied by sources close to the situation. Prior to these developments, Overgrow served tens of thousands of marijuana cultivators as a community-based website dedicated to practical advice and political advocacy. Overgrow contributers also frequently contributed to HIGH TIMES, including a monthly column of content culled from their online discussion boards.
As details continue to emerge in this case, readers are well advised to avoid all targeted websites and to continue to check hightimes.com for more information as it becomes available.
As details continue to emerge in this case, readers are well advised to avoid all targeted websites and to continue to check hightimes.com for more information as it becomes available.
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AnonyRat
Oct 30 2009, 3:24 pm
Perhaps the simplest solution is the most visible?
Join now, invite people who will contribute, and let's get GLOBAL Cannabis Re-Legalization underway once and for all!
http://Overgrow.ning.com
paco-puff salmons
Oct 14 2009, 4:10 pm
ty salmons
Oct 14 2009, 2:37 pm
paco-puff salmons
Oct 10 2009, 5:37 pm
fun-keen-hutt!
Oct 10 2009, 5:26 pm
pacopuff salmons
Oct 10 2009, 3:41 pm
pacopuff salmons
Oct 10 2009, 3:30 pm
pacopuff salmons
Oct 6 2009, 4:22 pm
pacopuff salmons
Sep 16 2009, 5:12 pm
pacopuff salmons
Sep 16 2009, 5:05 pm
Prawn Connery
Feb 9 2008, 10:21 am
Sportster
Feb 8 2008, 10:35 pm
pOm has failed on 99% of his claimes, that should speak volumes about the man's creditability....wasnt there a big article written in the mag last year something that pOm was bringing back OG??...fukin' lies, to the point of having this fine rag believeing his shit, and publishing it....Did the chief editor think of asking me, or any one else who was really involved with OG, the making and running of it, even the concept??..we're still out here!! But no...pOm hadda be the one with the article in HT about our site....and he was full of shit, and this mag published it anyways, with out any proof or confermation from the REAL PEOPLE who put OG up and ran it for years!!!
TOG is still very much alive, and if there is anything about bringing OG back, we will know before ANYONE!!!...period!!!
Nice bulliten board here...too bad I just ran across it now!!
Be SAFE ALL
~Sportz~ TOG
Disinterested 3rd party
Nov 13 2007, 1:28 pm
OVER GROWN
Sep 30 2007, 10:05 am
we are trying to pick up where OVERGROW left off...
the difference is, our site is located in the usa &
is ONLY meant for people who grow their medicine LEGALLY.
anyone who grows their medicine is welcome to help us add to the new strain guide. it's located at: overgrown.ineedhemp.com
check it out.
PEACE!
Brady
Jun 2 2007, 7:37 am
http://www.thehideawayonline.com
news to me
Dec 30 2006, 4:11 am
Oh well see u round
truthiness campaign
Jul 31 2006, 1:12 pm
Hayden
Jul 23 2006, 10:43 pm
It's in the seed wars forum.
I will miss all my friend
Jun 25 2006, 12:38 pm
Bookmark and see you soon!
SouthernStyle
ImissOVERGROW
Apr 24 2006, 9:03 pm
boodoo
Mar 30 2006, 3:34 pm
hankhill
Mar 30 2006, 5:30 am
grow your own pass it around to your friends stop trying to make a buck and give the weed away. now that will help the cause
from long time smoker "hankhill" some of u know me. so keep token. OH YEA HELLO LUCAS 4 REAL
hankhill
Mar 30 2006, 5:23 am
i"ve been visting high times site sense before they had a chat room and smoking alot longer than that. the usa is not your prob. one of your prob. is labeling folks look at yourself u dumb fuck! what r u some kind of hero. where does canada and every other country come cring when they need money?the usa thats where.i think the usa law onweed sucks too, but that does"nt mean the us sucks! so go fuck yourself you fucking cry babby.
Bongblaster
Mar 23 2006, 9:19 am
you all are paranoid as fuck, CIA?? wtf is wrong with you?
Whooa hang on there..
"Spook lie number 1 - you are paranoid"
Standard government flame. Very over-done.
http://members.tripod.com/spookbusters/spooklies.htm
trippers
Mar 20 2006, 11:37 pm
Bongblaster
Mar 3 2006, 9:14 am
Their mission is over:
What Happened to Hempcultivation.com?
http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?p=406421#post406421
An interview with Rick Garcia, Marijuana.com's creator and webmaster
Buzzby | Marijuana.com | 03/01/2006
[Buzzby] Yesterday you decided to shut down Marijuana.com's sister site, Hempcultivation.com. Was this in direct response to the release of news about the January 30th shutdown of the Heavens Stairway websites (hempqc.com, cannabisworld.com, overgrow.com, eurohemp.com, cannabisseeds.com, and cannabisbay.com) and the arrest of the people who ran them?
[Rick] Yes, ...
__________________________________
"Garcia," yet another fake name containing c i a.
The spooks are making fun of you potheads.
Richard Calrisian
Mar 3 2006, 8:10 am
I just flew in from Langley, Amsterdam.
And boy are my arms tired.
Anybody been looking for me?
Any messages...?
____________________
(confidential)
attn: Marc.
We need to get together and
get our stories straight, okay?
"He's just gone!" What the hell is that !?
Come on man, I've been selling beans for six years !!
You think they're going to buy that ????? Huh??
Cal
DROP IT LIKE ITS HOT
Mar 2 2006, 1:21 pm
AND U GUYS ARE TO FUCKIN PARANOID
Happy Fuzzy Bunny
Mar 2 2006, 12:20 pm
you're wrong
Mar 1 2006, 5:11 pm
If you think that's cool, then you're just like him and should be dealt with appropriately.
Happy Fuzzy Bunny
Mar 1 2006, 4:23 pm
If the truth hurts, perhaps it should.
yep
Feb 27 2006, 1:29 pm
How do we deal with snitches? Use your imagination.
Plural of Mongoose is a blackmailing vindictive maniac and dealing with him in any way puts you on the snitch list forever. Stay away from POM!!! he WILL turn on you when he needs to. That's a promise not a theory.
truthiness
Feb 27 2006, 1:26 pm
He keeps info on everyone and will willingly post anybody's private info (home numbers and addresses) if they get in his trolling way.
He has blackmailed people into not talking by threatening to reveal their private info!
Anyone caught up in his BS is suspect forever as a snitch-lover.
POM (aka plural of mongoose) has many handles online. Some of them are nice as pie and will gain entry into your life only to use your info against you later.
Consider Yourselves Warned!!!!
hossua34
Feb 27 2006, 1:14 pm
http://www.geocities.com/hossua34/written/overgrow.htm
Bongblaster
Feb 27 2006, 9:53 am
they exposed the cannabis (pig circus) community:
=======From the a.d.p.c.no-spooks FAQ===========
(which was also terminated, but not from my personal archive)
1) 2000Students -
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Field/8042/index.html
Cutting dissection of "Seedbank SPAM" being relentlessly
pumped into alt.drugs.pot.cultivation by spooks such as
"Sunny". Comments on the "insidious" nature of the
social-engineering:
2) Spookbusters - http://members.tripod.com/~spookbusters/
Including news archives from alt.drugs.pot.cultivation,
the Spookbusters is a sizable, definitive and
authoritative text which among other hilarious and
noteworthy achievements, has obtained PGP-signed
evidence that alt.drugs.pot.cultivation is playing host
to a massive government propaganda,
intelligence-gathering and social-engineering
anti-marijuana "STING" (AKA "Sunny Greenman")
3) SORM - http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/research/sorm.htm
A short but chilling article detailing [what appears to
be] cryptographic design weaknesses etc. of the FBI
contractors proxy system at www.lpwa.com allegedly being
used in alt.drugs.pot.cultivation to track-down it's
readers as part of the global UKUSA "Echelon"
intelligence gathering system.
4) Judgement Day:
husband/wife pot-guru double-agents exposed www.internettrash.com/users/judgementday/new/phase3.htm
CIA safe house:
http://www.slumberland.seattle.wa.us/
Friends and family photos online at Slumberland and
generation-x ASG-X web pages.
Take cover and get ready for the squealing.
Original source URL
www.internettrash.com/users/judgementday/new/phase3.htm
Bongblaster
Feb 27 2006, 8:52 am
O, danger lurks in telephones
And private e-mails, too.
We must be watched for what we say
And everything we do.
Homelandia, Homelandia,
Things can't now be the same.
Our privacy's a memory:
Big Brother's won the game.
DC Dave
----------------------------------------------------
The King has note of all they intend
By interception which they dream not of
--William Shakespeare
--------------------------------------------------------
High Tech Hyenas
Their E-missives reeking of evil,
Right here in the land of the free,
Propagandists swarm on the Internet,
Like Stasi or KGB.
Snug on the clandestine payroll,
All Judases taking their pay,
Our honored American heritage
They with their treachery betray.
Unable to stifle our protests,
Or our accusations refute,
They fall upon freedom's last redoubt
The waters of truth to pollute.
When the writers of our future history
Weigh in as to how we lost heart,
Let's hope they don't miss these vile creatures
Who surely did more than their part.
DC Dave
------------------------------------------------------
WhiteHotAfterburner
Feb 27 2006, 3:38 am
Is there another site where everyone is going to discuss this?...thanks.
WHAB
Bongblaster
Feb 26 2006, 9:30 pm
The government created the electronic "cannabis community"
not to bust people, but as a function of a large-scale organization
determined to control society by controlling every communication medium. It's called the military industrial corporate media monopoly and underground fake-opposition network of spies, or micmmaufonos,
created under the new American Homeland Security Patriot Act III.
Be Happy . . .
Simple Arithmetic
Count your garden by the flowers,
Never by the leaves that fall
Count your days by halide hours,
Don't subtract for clouds at all
Count your nights by stars, not shadows
Count your years with smiles, not tears
Count your blessings, not your troubles
Count your age by friends, not years
Unknown
Well Known Grower.
Feb 26 2006, 12:03 pm
The amount of conjecture and conspiracy written here, reaches biblical proportions!
Stoners have the most creative minds in the world, unfortunately, here. they exibit a total lack of common sense, and the ability to put the OG shutdown into perspective.
The demise of OG may be big news in the canna community, but has nothing to do with the charges of import/export charges related to Heavens Stairway.
OG was nothing more than another discussion site, shared by people with a common interest.
If you were ignorant enough to post incriminating information about yourself, on a www site, then you deserved having to tear down your grows.
If you purchased illegal seeds, then you knew the risks before you participated.
Nobody owes us anything!
You can jump up and down screaming and moaning with your hair on fire, but it isn't going to change the situation or solve any mysteries.
When the Canadian government states thier charges publicly, I suspect many of you will be changing your screen names and running for cover to avoid embarrassment.
We'll soon find out who is slinging bullshit around here.
I'll save my judgements for that time when the facts are released.
Until then, all you little monkeys keep dancing to the organ grinders tune, to keep us entertained.
be safe!
What matters most
Feb 25 2006, 10:04 pm
1. Emery was taken down.
2. OG servers gone.
Like him or hate him Emery did contribute a large sum of money to the cause. Probably more then everyone put together.
(Doesn't mean I like him)
OG served as one of the largest or the largest community for threads on the subject.
Gone.
Just like the war on teror they hunt the money and the place of gathering.
Know your enemy.
The best chance we have is to vote in your state or province to control the resources and make it the lowest priority thing they go after.
Also decrime legislation.
However getting that past on the federal level will be the biggest battle.
Stay focused.
Do something like contrubute to Normal.
There probably the only ones willing to stick out there neck for the cause.
Best to know what your up against.
After all that is what matters most.
colliedude
Feb 25 2006, 3:00 pm
Human Being
Feb 24 2006, 12:10 pm
Too bad Canada didn't stick with Crazy Ivan in the 80s. I mean the Reds weren't any perfect but they didn't force wars on others. You make an alliance w/ a corporate govt. and u pay the price.
"Emery4PrimeMinister"
.... .... .... .... ....
"D E A T H T O T H E C I A"
At least you're starting to make some sense now...
"there can never be a "real" cannabis community."
Uh huh...
grimmist
Feb 24 2006, 4:43 am
T.McKnight
fuck you stupid potheads!
Feb 24 2006, 1:18 am
Bongblaster
Feb 23 2006, 10:13 pm
intelligence casts a long shadow. Always remember that when reading this message board (or any political newsgroup for that matter), you are on the other side of the looking glass, where black is white and white is black, and people walk between the raindrops. Most regular posters on this message board are as phony as Riciahard Calriscia. The Internet was originally a child of the U.S. military. Always remember that.
electronic cannabis community = six websites = one man
a man without a real name
"He's just gone."
--Marc Emery
Agent Smith
Feb 23 2006, 12:53 pm
dontworryaboutit
Feb 23 2006, 9:37 am
dontworryaboutit
Feb 23 2006, 9:26 am
dontworryaboutit
Feb 23 2006, 9:17 am
Bongblaster
Feb 23 2006, 8:11 am
"I'm not saying the CIA are *good*. I'm saying they're *bad*."
Dunno man I'm confused. If they're incompitent and worthless, and have had a very high failure rate, then why should ppl worry about 'em in the first place?
_______________________________________________
You're building another straw man to tear down, agent Simpson.
I specifically said people should NOT be worried about the fakers.
(It was in my post that HT admin censored from this board.)
The CIA fakers don't bust potheads, that's not their job.
The CIA control the media.
That's their mission; that's what they do for a living.
To control the media, you become the media. It's just that simple.
There can only be ONE "cannabis community."
As long as *the government* is the "cannabis community,"
there can never be a "real" cannabis community.
It's right off the pages of Orwell's "1984."
O'Brian pretended to be in the "brotherhood" to trick Winston Smith
into asking to join - then he was screwed.
The "brotherhood," like the "cannabis community," never existed.
It was just a false front created by Big Brother.
SIX websites comprising the entire electronic cannabis community were controlled by just one spook, a community of one, Richard Calriscia.
So when I say "Down with the Cannabis Community,"
Read it as:
D E A T H T O T H E C I A
Glynwr Foster
Feb 23 2006, 1:54 am
Agent Smith
Feb 22 2006, 10:33 pm
hammer,
Feb 22 2006, 9:57 pm
Human Being
Feb 22 2006, 5:55 pm
Get some popcorn.
Human Being
Feb 22 2006, 10:58 am
Dunno man I'm confused. If they're incompitent and worthless, and have had a very high failure rate, then why should ppl worry about 'em in the first place?
Human Being
Feb 22 2006, 9:43 am
Uh huh. And live the rest of the lives in the closet, cowering without any like minded interactions...? No thanks, I pass.
Now, if you don't mind...I have crops to tend to :D Have a nice day...
Bongblaster
Feb 22 2006, 9:36 am
Propaganda 101.
You're building a straw-man to tear down.
I'm not saying the CIA are *good*. I'm saying they're *bad*.
They were easily exposed by Spookbusters. Their mission here
is a failure, just like the Bay of Pigs.
The only cover you spooks have now is the fact that it's mind boggling
to think the United States government would do such a thing.
But we're talking about the same government that puts cancer patients
in solitary confinement for using doctor prescribed marijuana.
It's not too much of a stretch for me.
Hratch Babeee
Feb 21 2006, 8:45 pm
Human Being
Feb 21 2006, 2:59 pm
That too, when the "opposition" didn't bother using ANY disguises WHATSOEVER. According to the CIA, Pokran was on the radars since '74. They had NO CLUE for the WHOLE TIME and Pokran was planned for quite sometime.
MAN, if 10% of what u say on the CIA's ability is true, then they woulda detected activity in Pokran long back. And yes- Pokran was "HOT" on the CIA radar since 1974.
Man, stop hallucenating and do some growing already :D
Look yo, I don't give a F@#k about the CIA and that's why I don't live in the US territory or in any one of its "allies."
Unless the CIA is interested in losing some hardware, I don't think they'd care to intervene out here either. They were beaten once here already and we know they don't have 5% of the abilities you claim them to have!
Damn shit man, take a chill pill already.
c-ray
Feb 21 2006, 1:06 pm
http://planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=9090&page=12&pp=20
Bongblaster
Feb 21 2006, 9:21 am
"Dood, the links don't work, but I'll trust ur words"
Of course the Spookbusters link doesn't work, because the CIA
took it down, which proves it was true.
Only the CIA have the power to take down a website like that,
and only the CIA would have a motive for taking it down.
Once again, the spooks demand a Spookbusters LINK knowing
full well that they, the spooks themselves, took the website down.
......................................................................
Human Being on Mon 20, Feb 2006 10:53
"His cover was blown by Spookbusters. It's in the public archive."
Please don't tell me this is a wikipedia article...if not, please provide me a link.
.......................................................................
Spookbusters have been TERMINATED by the CIA,
but they live on in the hearts and minds of free men.
D O W N W I T H B I G B R O T H E R
D O W N W I T H T H E C A N N A B I S C O M M U N I T Y
up with the POT plants ... down with the NARK plants
like Richard and Marc "the nark" cia pigs
*oink*oink* weee weee weee
Bongblaster
Feb 21 2006, 8:38 am
You may find it hard to conceive,
But some write what they don't believe.
Have you noticed them yet?
They're spooks on the Net.
Their purpose here is to deceive.
Nether Creatures
Consider common Net spooks,
The lowest of the low.
When they can't do real spy work
This is where they go.
But there's a sadder station
That they might reach some day:
They make convenient patsies
Like Oswald and McVeigh.
Net Spooks
Don't you wonder sometimes how a man can endure
Knowing that he's a provocateur,
Like the fellow who worked for our secret police
And ruined the professor, Don Jose Solis?
But among all the jobs one might see as a curse,
People labor at one that is probably worse.
They work to subvert our democracy,
And they treat honest folk as the enemy.
Should they be found out, they'd be rightly hated
By those they have roundly manipulated,
But somehow they cope with the private disgrace
Of being paid agents in cyberspace.
Human Being
Feb 21 2006, 4:22 am
Anyways, I don't believe in half these "legendary" abilities of these co called spooks. The NSA/CIA combine were beaten hollow in our area several times.
In all due honesty, it's still a B2B case, nothing more...
hollo
Feb 21 2006, 4:13 am
Bongblaster
Feb 21 2006, 12:39 am
====From the spook archive=======
Pop the champagne corks - sunny's taken another hit.
Doesn't he take the punishment well!
Squeal piggy squeal
We just love it when the piggy squeals.
It's about a year since geocities booted 'Sunny' for SPAMMING and he had to move to Tripod. But even Tripod, one of the most liberal servers on the net, booted Sunny Spammer after a prolonged period of the filthy narc spamming his 'Seedbank Ratings Scam' at this infamous URL:
http://members.tripod.com/~bbop/seedbanks.html
It is widely believed that the ~bbop username meant "buzz buds operation"
Jeez - even TRIPOD kicked the narc off because his spam was so DISGUSTING
Sunny has been proven a narc -
http://members.tripod.com/~spookbusters/squealers.htm
Sunny is squealing right now in the alt.drugs.pot.cultivation newsgroup! He has put up a message called 'Sunny's is looking for a home'
Who's offering to give a home to this filthy fucking narc?
Only the disgraced 'Richard Calrisian' of 'Heavens Stairway' hempqc.com That pig is now in alt.drugs.pot.cultivation OFFERING TO HELP HIS NARC SCUM BUDDIES!
Everybody can see more proof that this 'Heavens Stairway' is a narc front. Hope somebody local arranges a meeting with this 'Richard' character and sorts him out.
Like one of the people that he's turned in, after they get out of jail........
Squeal squeal squeal weee weee weee. stuck little piggies are so desperate for server space to host their spamming on, they are having to do it on their own 'five star' seedbank servers!
Hay... let's guess how long it's going to take for 'heavens stairway' to get an even higher rating on the corrupt 'greenman' seedbank spamming system. Wait - no, they're allready at the TOP!!
FUCKING NARCS.
Human being
Feb 20 2006, 3:36 pm
Human Being
Feb 20 2006, 2:47 pm
Anyways, I can't comment on RC's EXACT case because I wasn't involved. But me+my collegues've dealt w/ B2B case in US. I don't wanna elaborate I hope u understand.
Anyways, when shit hit the floor, we pretty much went on stealth mode 100%. No commo. No calls. No info. Nothing. We just "blanked" out. Making intl. calls was barred too BTW. We decided against contacting ANY collegue or consumer on our own decision as to not attract prying eyes, though we coulda.
We just took safety of the consumers to the max. We didn't care if ppl. talked shit either. The ordeal was 2 months, till we could get the case suspended. You know, a B2B case is a lot more complex than an individual case.
Suppliers. Ppls. They all flipped the f@#k out. I understood. But they were safe in the end.
All I'm saying is that, I see some similarities in RC's case although our businesses were a bit different.
I just hope RC is thinking along the same lines we were.
JJScorpio
Feb 20 2006, 12:10 pm
Human Being
Feb 20 2006, 11:42 am
I've dealt w/ a similar case in the USA and it took about 2 mos for shit to get 100% fully resolved.
And believe me JJ Scorpio, doing biz by ripping ppl off is VERY short lived. They always meet a fitting fate.
If this surfaces out to be a scam, then I'll bet- the scammers will get a huge rod at their rear ends.
But now, I just request we wait till Apr. 2nd - 3rd week...
JJScorpio
Feb 20 2006, 11:16 am
Human Being
Feb 20 2006, 10:53 am
Please don't tell me this is a wikipedia article...if not, please provide me a link.
Nobody is mixing "nukes with spooks" or "zooks with wooks" or whatevers. That's only done on SAT tests. I was only using it as a symbolism thing.
Coming back to NK, all I'm saying is, at this point, I'd be more worried about a North Korean missile launch rather than RC being a spook. The chance of the former is 0%- I'm sure you agree...
Bongblaster
Feb 20 2006, 9:50 am
===========From the public archive=============
About North Korea's Taepo Dong 2 missile ...
In a December 2001 report, the CIA estimated a 10,000 km (6,200 mile)
range for the two-stage version, enough to hit Alaska, Hawaii...
and,
15,000 km (9,300 miles) range for the three-stage version,
enough to hit any point in North America.
________________________________________________________
Let's just forget Korea and stick to the topic of Richard Calrisian being a spook.
His cover was blown by Spookbusters. It's in the public archive.
The pieces of the puzzle fit together if, and only if, Richard Calrisian is a spook.
The "cannabis community" is really the "spook community."
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
"Birds of a feather, flock together."
And spooks of a feather, link together.
Human Being
Feb 20 2006, 8:27 am
The chances of RC being a spook is much less than the chances of say- a North Korean Taepo Dong 2 hitting Los Angeles next year...which is pretty freakin' close to zero...
Human Being
Feb 20 2006, 8:01 am
Man your conspiracy theories are as absurd as one of the guys who tried to spread a UFO rumor in our area. He took a hi res photo of a TU-95 Bear D airborne and said it was a UFO. Everybody had the laugh of our lives, that's it. It was surely amusing, though :D
Hey- you should try and produce a TV drama or something...
Bongblaster
Feb 19 2006, 8:29 pm
It means the so called "cannabis community" is basically one person, or one human being, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
--------
Bongism #27
Propaganda castles built so fine, collapse beneath the salty brine.
Suggestion- Bongblaster..
Feb 19 2006, 6:09 pm
Eh...smuggling narcotics through the mail in bulk from growers outside your country of business comes well under import/ export.
The complication in Overgrow is that it was in Canada: cannabis seeds are treated as the same as cannabis so any penalties going with importing seeds (thru an online txn) is the same as that of importing actual cannabis. The overgrow case comes well within the jurisdiction of local BC laws. Or Canadian laws at the most and will be handled as such.
The reason why ME's case went differently was because of publicity- plus there was photographed evidence of cannabis seeds sold IN BULK in his retail shop. Him smoking a bongload in the vicinity of the parliament house didn't help matters either, but mainly it was the former. The photographed evidence was a major problem- media + intl. publicity didn't help matters either. And he formed a damned political party on top of all this.
I don't think RC's case was like that. Since there was no physical retail outlet involved, it gives the defendent (RC) more scope to negociate a defense.
Shutting down the servers was technically not necessary but was done in case they do get siezed and shadow drives (forensic tools- physical/ software) are installed.
The chances are Overgrow servers themselves won't get siezed because they serve no real purpose. The charges are on RC himself. And it's certainly not worth the resources to externally track down. He shut it down to prevent any possibility of IP logging. HE knew he came under the radar screen and well- just shut down all his auxiliary sites (like OG) as a safety measure.
If they were siezed, the servers'd be unpingable for a set duration of time (even if a short burst). They were monitored round the clock and were always pingable.
So, he's prolly getting his defense team preparing. That's what he should be doing anyways...
Human Being
Feb 19 2006, 3:38 pm
but there is no such crime of "import/export of seeds."
In Canada, the import and export of cannabis seeds is treated the same as the import and export of cannabis itself. Consult a Canadian lawyer.
Human Being
Feb 19 2006, 3:25 pm
Man, a "communications bar" means being denied a specific communications facility normally available to the public.
If you imported leather jackets into the US from Uzbekistan and sold them (in the US of course) as "Prada, Made in Italy" and get caught and u use the bail, you won't be able to use international calls as a bail condition, I can assure you that.
Considering the nature of RC's business, him not being able to use the Internet as a bail condition isin't something new. And- you cannot compare a B2B crime w/individual crime.
Have you ever been charged with a B2B crime in North America? Or have you dealt with anyone who has? I doubt it...
I know there's nothing wrong with running websites in Canada. But still, Overgrow was clearly an important auxiliary (i.e. og complemented RC's biz) to RC's core business. So don't you think it'll be wiser to shut down the auxiliaries as well until the core issues are solved???
Overgrow will run again, but under new spook management,
probably "Human Being."
Ha ha ha ha ha, I'd love to run OG :D
ANyways, please check with an independent business consultant on your doubts "offline." Seriously.
Hctarh
Feb 18 2006, 9:38 pm
Hratch Baghdadlian
5005 Blvd Gouin Ouest
Montreal QC
End of Test
Bongblaster
Feb 18 2006, 7:32 pm
"The charges are import/ export of seeds man. It's quite obvious."
(B)
Thanks for going on the record as saying Richard Calrisian was
arrested, but there is no such crime of "import/export of seeds."
Do you mean smuggling narcotics through the mail? That must be what you mean.
(HB)
The overgrow.com servers were located in Canada NOT Europe (for logistics). Canada can get unsafe when such a business becomes big, thanks for the Southern neighbour.
(B)
Hosting a cannabis website is not against the law. If it was you wouldn't be reading this. Why would Richard be worried about his legal websites after he was charged with the crime of smuggling narcotics. His six websites would be the least of his problems. He should be spending his resources on finding a good lawyer and get a deal cut, maybe get ten years instead of a hundred.
(HB)
And for crying out loud, when a communications bar is imposed on you, direct communications is tricky. Going public even to a small degree when under fire attracts prying eyes, I'm sure you know this.
(B)
I did an advanced google search on "communications-bar" and the only thing that comes up is: Federal Communications Bar Association, so you're just making stuff up.
(HB)
Man, on 2nd week of April tops, Overgrow will run again out of European servers. I'll bet on THAT.
(B)
The spook "Richard Calrisian" has been decommissioned.
Overgrow will run again, but under new spook management,
probably "Human Being."
He's on this thread like the ugly on an ape.
,
Feb 18 2006, 2:29 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 18 2006, 11:32 am
lucky 7
Feb 18 2006, 10:33 am
Ah ha . . . . this could be a real piece of the puzzle.
The People look forward to the re-emergance of Overgrow. But will it ever be the same??
Don't let the Man beat ya down!
It was a wild ride while it lasted!
Human Being
Feb 18 2006, 1:33 am
The overgrow.com servers were located in Canada NOT Europe (for logistics). Canada can get unsafe when such a business becomes big, thanks for the Southern neighbour.
And for crying out loud, when a communications bar is imposed on you, direct communications is tricky. Going public even to a small degree when under fire attracts prying eyes, I'm sure you know this.
Man, on 2nd week of April tops, Overgrow will run again out of European servers. I'll bet on THAT.
Bongblaster
Feb 17 2006, 10:07 pm
WHAT will be over by mid April? Another operation green-merchant?
"OG will run again, in safer waters."
The waters have been safe for six years, what made them unsafe now?
If Richard Calrisian was arrested, there has to be charges, what are they?
I'm not asking for an arrest report, just the reason he was arrested.
What are the charges?
Shouldn't Richard at least leak the charges and say: I was arrested
for (fill in the blank)?
no charges = no arrest = phony arrest = phony Richard = phony websites
= phony community = fake opposition = s p o o k s
Come up with some charges, Human Being.
And quit squirming in ambiguity.
Human Being
Feb 17 2006, 11:26 am
Looking at the timeframe, I can assure you it will be over by the mid April tops. OG will run again, in safer waters.
"The arrest itself would be public knowledge. This isnt Russia or Istanbul......"
Please look into Irvine, CA approx 4 months after 9/11. Did anything go down there? I invite you to do all the research. Pls. browse thru ALL records you can find. If you can come up w/ something I'll send a yacht your way :D
We ain't talking NYC here (ground zero). Irvine, CA, which is pretty laid back by US standards, I believe...
JJScorpio
Feb 17 2006, 10:40 am
Bongblaster
Feb 17 2006, 9:25 am
First, Agent Simpson says that it's RC that's being "silent."
"His silence is probably for the better as any statement he makes will attract prying eyes- unwanted crap."
Then, he says it's the cops that are keeping things "silent."
"Do they REALLY have to make an 'arrest' or 'raid' public? Homeland security...ah! Go to the Queens (NY) and talk w/ a Pakistani cab driver or two..."
Sure spook, we believe you. Let's just keep things SILENT.
Richard Calrisian was arrested, and we must accept it, because
that's the only thing that could explain his six websites going down,
unless he's a nark.
He shouldn't talk about it though, for his own safety, and the cops and media won't talk about it either, because they don't have to.
We'll never know if the cover story is true or not because things
are just too SILENT around here to find out the truth.
MasterShake420
Feb 17 2006, 9:21 am
Human being
Feb 17 2006, 7:57 am
When doubting a person's integrity please do look at his business rep. In my biz experience, only sites running with a short run vision tend to "fold" or "rat." RC did neither.
PPl emphasizing quality always keep consumer base in the core of business affairs. And I think RC was a benchmark here. Not to mention his shelf life was FAR BETTER than MANY PHYSICAL businesses we see nowadays.
Narcing out kills you in the business field and RC knows that. And yeah, whatever perks one gains out of snitching is NOTHING...you're surely fucked for life here. I mean if u have the brains to run OG/CW/HS/, you must have the brains to know this...
His silence is prolly for the better as any statement he makes will attract prying eyes- unwanted crap.
Do they REALLY have to make an 'arrest' or 'raid' public? Homeland security...ah! Go to the Queens (NY) and talk w/ a Pakistani cab driver or two...
If $hit hits the floor, you'd best recuperate and channel all your energies towards your defense and nothing more...especially if you're more "biz" than "political."
A DEA top guy (I'd rather be a disease infested donkey but anyways..) would not close down the site and arrest RC like they did. I'd want the sites up and running and then do a blitzkrieg series of busts.
RC is not a public person neither, so I don't see why he should go all out on media.
This entire speculation looks like the hallmarks of a politician come businessman.
Human being
Feb 17 2006, 7:44 am
Let's set aside the DEA. Let's move on to the NSA AND the CIA. They supposedly have all this trillion dollar satellite shit that can detect what brand of underwear I'm wearing...
But they failed MISERABLY to detect the Pokhran tests in 1998. Do a google. The locals knew that all those high tales put forth by the NSA/ CIA was horse shit. And it was proven. The nuclear material was hauled in overhead rail for crying out loud! Pokhran was planned for quite sometime and the CIA/NSA combine had NO IDEA about the whole thing whatsoever.
The whole time, they just issued warnings on what they're capable of doing and nothing more. So, I sincerely advise the community to keep its cool and continue doing what we're best at :D
Powered By Weed
Feb 16 2006, 5:59 pm
edge
Feb 16 2006, 4:26 pm
Bongblaster
Feb 16 2006, 11:31 am
upset, pained, horrified, tear covered, swollen-eyed, confounded,
confused, discombobulated, bewildered, and generally taken aback by the
untimely demise of our beloved Richard Calrisian who was found frozen to
death in a jail cell in Pennsylvania standing on his head.
I also feel a strong since of outrage and anger toward those who
question not only whether Richard Calrisian died, but whether he in fact
was a real person. Some of the more cynical bastards in this thread
have claimed that he was nothing more than a screen name, a fictitious persona, that he did not die but was merely decommissioned.
(this could be the foundation for a new religion)
If by some wild stretch of the imagination this nonsense about Richard Calrisian being decommissioned is actually true, ask yourselves WHY was
he decommissioned. The WHO and HOW are merely scenery for the WHY.
WHY was he decommissioned? WHO benefited and WHO has the
power to cover it up?
JJScorpio
Feb 16 2006, 10:46 am
It is with great sadness that RC, HS and CW have been taken down by the authorities in Canada.
I have it from a bonafide source that it happened on Monday and RC's computers/servers have most probably been seized. They spent 2 days going through his house and removed a lot of stuff.
His wife and some members of his family were taken into custody, and it is possible she may be released tomorrow on bail. There has not been a peep in the media about this so there is a reason it was not advertised by LEO....BE WARNED! not to try and log onto Overgrow or Cannisbusworld for now sisnce most certainly the security of those sites has beem compromised, and if it comes back up without me first hearing from RC, then it is not being run by him. Think about it! This could bring up some real security issues with many OG and CW members....be warned guys and do what you have to do, to make it safer for all of you....duck and cover...if needs be...
...Yours Faithfully.....
Gypsy Nirvana
Theres your blame folks......
JJScorpio
Feb 16 2006, 10:28 am
MasterShake420
Feb 16 2006, 10:07 am
..
Feb 16 2006, 12:04 am
Theories abound as to why.
icmag, cc, and planetganja are housing various factions of the discussion (Marc E's crew at their home CC, Gypsy Nirvana and OverGrow Mods at Icmag and numerous OG Expats at PlanetGanja.
Anyone that knows what's going on is either A)not talking or B) drowned out by the bullshit and infighting.
Powered By Weed
Feb 15 2006, 11:18 pm
Hratch
Feb 15 2006, 4:31 pm
edge
Feb 15 2006, 4:21 pm
Overgrow grew. It grew to be in the top 100 most visited sites in the universe. But is that really what was intended by the founders of Overgrow. Cannabis Capitalism has claimed another victim in the wake of the well publicized arrest and potential extradition of the self-proclaimed "prince of pot" Marc Emery. Not the war on drugs, not the rcmp or dea, but greed and capitalism; weeds in the garden killed Overgrow.
Criticism of Cannabis Capitalists goes to tactics and motivation. It hasn't helped the movement. Carefully study the sheep who hold Emery in reverence. Their arguments are fervent even if void of substance. Even Bill Gates finally was shamed into philanthropy. Emery's "philanthropy is ALL about Marc Emery. Emery's interest is pure business, not philosophical. In the U.S. backlash from Emery's attempts to compare Vancouver to Amsterdam has set back carefully designed strategies to influence public opinion. To his credit, he has excited legions of followers who have the right spirit. Unfortunately, he has not measured his adversaries, and the movement has suffered as a result. You do not conduct a frontal attack against an enemy with a hundred fold the manpower and resources that you have. Emery believed he could continue a war of attrition and he is mistaken. "how can I make a buck" and exploit the believers in the legalization movement. In that sense, Emery is no better than the Tijuana Cartel. Time to go back to recent days where special causes like the A-1 defense fund-raising efforts were of primary concerns to the OG community.
Hratch
Feb 15 2006, 3:54 pm
NEQ 2261893509
ruined
Feb 15 2006, 3:36 pm
edge
Feb 15 2006, 2:44 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 15 2006, 2:14 pm
DEA AGENT
Feb 15 2006, 1:42 pm
R.T. in W.V.
Feb 15 2006, 1:16 pm
The #1 rule with growing is to tell nobody. So why the hell would you tell the world by posting your grows and show pix's and giving details?
So now you sit and cry and keep looking out your windows, because you broke the rules. Don't cry to us, you stupid ass, your the one who posted.
THCmolecule
Feb 15 2006, 1:14 pm
1. OG is gone for now. Despite rampant rumor, no one knows when or if it will return. There is good speculation all over the place. But for now, OG is gone and we don't expect it back anytime we can count on.
2. RC/RB, owner of OG/HS/CW told Plural of Mongoose and Marc Emery he was busted. Those who say RC/RB has made no statements publically are ignoring these statements he made by proxie, through Marc and PoM.
3. RC/RB was not arrested/arraigned. We know this, because that info is public in Canada. Therefore, we know he was not arrested. It is possible that he was raided for info, but not arrested. But why does Gypsy Nirvana/OldPink insist that he and he wife were arrrested/charged and releaseed... also that he r/c cant comment pubically because the case is now before the courts. Why do thet keep repeating this lie?
4. Places besides OG have been raided, but info is way sketchy. A few seed selling websites have gone offline, but no information about why has come out. We know that at least some affected seed ompanies were connected to RC's business, through doing business with one another, and we know of no seed companies affected that did not do business with RC.
4. Marc Emery and Plural of Mongoose both report that RC/RB must be cooperating with the police.
I think this pretty much brings us up to date. Now, we all are waiting to see what information comes out to corroborate or refute the theory that RC/RB/OG/HS was raided and is cooperating with the police.
So far, it appears if you did business with RC, you could get a visit from the law. While it is technically possible that the police could find all OGers, or something like that, just from their posts and intercepted web traffic, there is no reason to think LE will get that far.
So, now, we wait and listen... for busts and gov. announcements...
huh
Feb 15 2006, 12:54 pm
HRATCH
Feb 15 2006, 12:49 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 15 2006, 10:36 am
dontworryaboutit
Feb 15 2006, 9:49 am
dontworryaboutit
Feb 15 2006, 9:40 am
dontworryaboutit
Feb 15 2006, 9:21 am
This whole story is spec.
Feb 15 2006, 7:21 am
One guy, Lothar, claims that it was just a simple seed bust. In the (huge??) city of Montreal, city of stabbings and sex trades, a bust about seeds wouldn't even make the paper.
But then two minutes later, they say he was charged with IMPORT / EXPORT OF SEEDS. Not just posession... but import AND export. They know about his seed business. They know he bought seeds from both Canadians and Americans. They know he was selling them across Canada and back to other Americans. They know he had a thriving registered business doing this where he kept legal books and PAID GROWERS BY CHEQUE. They know all of this because he was charged with import and export. Read between the lines, people. Some people might paint a rosy picture on it but the cops know what was happening and will eventually trace down all of his properties, including Overgrow.
The-Jack
Feb 15 2006, 3:09 am
And a short word on that note ,
why not use a weed related IRC network (irc.highrc.net, irc.weedchat.de) where users can interact and are protected against such things that happend to OG since there are no logs or physical records of what users are doing or saying :D.
Big O to the P
Feb 15 2006, 2:22 am
TOG
Feb 14 2006, 9:57 pm
lol @ Bongblaster..come on mate...think of something original......CIA was a good, I like it but I think ign you can do better than that..how about RC had a sex change operation?
Bongblaster
Feb 14 2006, 9:25 pm
my article without the "inflammatory" part, and pose a question.
____________________________________________________
###### Breaking update on the Richard Calrisian Arrest #######
He wasn't arrested. His "arrest" was a fabrication, like his name.
All the people that say he was arrested are government liars.
"Richard Calrisian" is now just another de-comissioned spook.
The conservatives taking over the Canadian government had
nothing to do with it. That was part of a clumsy cover story.
"Richard Calrisian" was exposed as an undercover CIA agent
in 1999, along with Marc "the nark" Emery. You can prove it
with a Google search.
He sold narcotics over the internet for six years and then
fakes his own "arrest" and now, "he's just gone."
Are we to believe that sometime during the last six years Richard
Calrisian had a change of heart and resigned from the CIA and
came over to the other side and morphed from a spy into a laid
back friendly pothead that just wanted to help people grow pot ??
Or, are we to believe Richard Calrisian never was a spook but
for some unknown reason, he's mysteriously doing something
real spooky right now, like disappear?? That's why they call them:
SPOOKS
Defilers of reality
Bane on the human race
Masters of Immorality
The fiend without a face
fabulous
Feb 14 2006, 8:40 pm
Lets save the back biting for the areana and not in public shall we?
We all want to see a conclussion to all this BS but lets not do it in public hay. You All Know Who You Are.
So Look at what your doing here, and look at who's looking at you.
WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS
Yeah and all you kids shoudn't be reading this anyways.
So FUCK OFF AND PLAY BALL
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 8:14 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 8:12 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 8:08 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 8:05 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 8:03 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 8:00 pm
Team Overgrow
Feb 14 2006, 7:57 pm
you seem unhappy "me" put down that mouse....step away from your PC then go outside and get some sun and exercise...get a life
me
Feb 14 2006, 7:53 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 7:44 pm
Team Overgrow
Feb 14 2006, 7:44 pm
Mark Emery - what a joke ...the Prince of $500 strains (ten seeds per pack!)..his site has ran 3 different versions of the story that I've read ..perhaps there were more?? (all of which were assumptions, fairy tales or lies from taken from posts on icmag.com)..RC is busted , RC has taken the money and ran and RC is co-operating with the cops!
The fact of the matter is that Overgrow, Heaven's Stairway, EuroHemp and Cannibis world sites are shut down....anything else is guesswork, spite, jealousy, assumptions and other seed biz bullsh*t...
If you have had Heaven's Stairways seeds sent to an address where you grow or have unfortunately left addresses or photos on Overgrow or Cannabis World then it might be a good idea to "clean the house"
for updates see www .icmag.com....go to the Overgrow forum and read the latest news ( what little there substaniated news there is)
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 6:17 pm
Him offering to donate 155,000 dollars should show what this really is. He used the Tsunami victims for "seed donations" to put a pile of cash in his pocket. That in itself justifies the word scumbag. Who's to say that this isnt another one? The US and Canadian Governments must love him as the posterboy for the legalization effort....
Zac
Feb 14 2006, 5:48 pm
their story
Feb 14 2006, 5:23 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 5:19 pm
lucky 7
Feb 14 2006, 3:31 pm
get a life
Feb 14 2006, 3:22 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 3:19 pm
real news?
Feb 14 2006, 3:17 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 3:16 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 3:12 pm
ME
Feb 14 2006, 3:01 pm
thanks!
Feb 14 2006, 3:01 pm
Oh and keep pretending like you know what you're talking about. We're getting quite a laugh out of your idiocy.
p.s. Your apartment smells like ass. Please have it fumigated.
me
Feb 14 2006, 3:00 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 3:00 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 2:58 pm
lol
Feb 14 2006, 2:55 pm
niemand
Feb 14 2006, 2:54 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 2:52 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 2:50 pm
fatass niemand
Feb 14 2006, 2:50 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 2:49 pm
we will ...
Feb 14 2006, 2:49 pm
ME
Feb 14 2006, 2:48 pm
bears repeating
Feb 14 2006, 2:48 pm
That's the way private websites work. Try to go on someone's forum and badmouth them - see how long it lasts. It's not about "free speech", it's about what we choose to tolerate on our site troll.
Go back to giving people crappy grow advice and hoarding seeds you'll never pop.
ME
Feb 14 2006, 2:46 pm
This whole story is spec.
Feb 14 2006, 2:40 pm
Yea, that is how things work on a private website. "Freedom of Speech" prevents the government from censoring news media. It doesn't say that you are allowed to bitch however you want on someone's private property.
me
Feb 14 2006, 2:37 pm
YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU LIKE HERE AS LONG AS HIGH TIMES SAYS ITS OK.
dontworryaboutit
Feb 14 2006, 2:32 pm
dontworryaboutit
Feb 14 2006, 2:18 pm
huh
Feb 14 2006, 2:15 pm
dontworryaboutit
Feb 14 2006, 2:11 pm
dontworryaboutit
Feb 14 2006, 2:04 pm
dontworryaboutit
Feb 14 2006, 1:59 pm
JFG
Feb 14 2006, 1:54 pm
People who ordered from Marc Emery and were on his forums were logged by the DEA--- and Emeryhimself admits that many people who ordered seeds from him are at risk or already got busted because the DEA was logging their orders and watching the Cannabis Culture website. Emery has no hesitations to nark people out. He narked out Reeferman,Steve Kubby,Chris Bennett, Rene Bojee, Breeder Steve, Steve Tuck and bunches of other people in his formus,, and now has posted RC's name and phone number and is stirring sh*t as usual for his own warped desires.Sure it's probably true that Nirvanaisn't trustworthy either,but Emery has a long history of endangering people and if theres one website I would NOT be logged onto it's Cannabis Culture. All you people dissing High Times oughta realize it's the only magazinestanding for us these many years. Bottom line is, be safe and start over again, don't let people like Emery,Nirvana or DEA scare you frombeing free!!
dontworryaboutit
Feb 14 2006, 1:54 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 1:47 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 1:34 pm
ITS NOT ABOUT TRUTH ANYMORE, ITS ONLY ABOUT WHAT HIGH TIMES WANTS YOU TO HEAR.
hahahaha
Feb 14 2006, 1:34 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 1:33 pm
how does it feel
Feb 14 2006, 1:33 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 1:31 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 1:28 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 1:25 pm
admin
Feb 14 2006, 1:25 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 1:24 pm
**
Feb 14 2006, 1:23 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 1:22 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 1:21 pm
me
Feb 14 2006, 1:20 pm
fizzle
Feb 14 2006, 1:20 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 1:19 pm
NYC
Feb 14 2006, 1:19 pm
fizzle
Feb 14 2006, 1:19 pm
admin
Feb 14 2006, 1:17 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 1:15 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 1:14 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 1:02 pm
HT admin
Feb 14 2006, 12:53 pm
Baghdadlianianalia
Feb 14 2006, 12:50 pm
Paranoid-Watcher
Feb 14 2006, 12:41 pm
don't trust gypsys site for sure. surround yourself with the best growers and you'll learn the best techniques.
that being said stay away from Marc's sight as well
HT admin
Feb 14 2006, 12:22 pm
ganja gangster
Feb 14 2006, 12:08 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 11:47 am
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 11:26 am
JJScorpio
Feb 14 2006, 11:22 am
This whole story is spec.
Feb 14 2006, 11:14 am
HT admin
Feb 14 2006, 11:03 am
The truth is, we're working on a story that will have answers to these questions and we refuse to put out info that may not be correct or helpful in this trying time. Old Pink and the rest of the OG mods have all of our best interests in mind and are working hard to find out what they can. Believe me when I tell you that Old Pink is a trustworthy person and working to find the truth.
Yes, High Times was an advertiser and sponsor on OG (along with many others) and yes, we had a forum of our own on OG for High Times related events and information but we were never a paying sponsor or involved financially with OG. No money was ever exchanged between us and OG and our agreement was strictly a two-way street. Banners exchanged between the sites and info and pics from willing OG members printed on our OG page in the magazine. I post this to clear up misinformation stated elsewhere that we are somehow "The Sponsor" of overgrow. Posts like that imply that we're involved and not saying anything which is furthest from the truth. We are simply waiting for the pertinent facts before we disperse information that could be false and damaging to other members of the cannabis community. There is no coverup - there's only a desire for facts and facts have been hard to come by so far.
In this messed up time, let's focus on finding out the truth and let's try to avoid situations where rampant speculation leads people down slippery slopes of logic.
huh bongblaster?
Feb 14 2006, 10:38 am
S2
Feb 14 2006, 9:16 am
showmeglass
Feb 14 2006, 8:46 am
Ben Busted
Feb 14 2006, 4:43 am
sethujuana
Feb 14 2006, 3:49 am
i laught to see nark emery spoutin off aboutit though. that dude knew he was bein watched by dea and still he was selling buds with his butt buddy and askin everybody to order seeds from him an the dea intercept a bunch of the seed orders, so what a hippocrit that he now is slagging overgrow. and all his little suckers at cc, they are just boughtinto his cult of personality, it makes me sick!
R.T. in W.V.
Feb 14 2006, 12:06 am
JJScorpio
Feb 13 2006, 11:51 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 13 2006, 11:44 pm
Lowtimer
Feb 13 2006, 11:12 pm
I've been trying to decode this whole mess too much. THanks for the reality touch. The problem is more important than the puzzle Just want to know if this increases people's chances of door kicks, you know? You are right though.
BongBlaster: I'm not a fan at all of the whole anti hebrew movement. That said, the idea of the whole scene being a massive cointelpro is worth considering in all seriousness.
JJScorpio: I probably bumped into you under my OG nick (avoiding like the plague currently, sure you understand), but its been good Rattlin high times' chain with you (just makes me wonder who's holding the other end of that chain these days?)
See you guys, based on the signs, I'm going underground to the next town.
smoky Mc pot head
Feb 13 2006, 11:00 pm
smoky Mc pot head
Feb 13 2006, 10:59 pm
smoky Mc pot head
Feb 13 2006, 10:48 pm
Baghdadlianianalia
Feb 13 2006, 10:13 pm
soul coughing
Feb 13 2006, 9:53 pm
lowtimer
Feb 13 2006, 9:35 pm
DEAS mom
Feb 13 2006, 9:26 pm
LOVE MOM
JJScorpio
Feb 13 2006, 9:02 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 13 2006, 8:36 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 13 2006, 8:31 pm
Lowtimer
Feb 13 2006, 8:30 pm
lowtimer
Feb 13 2006, 8:28 pm
me
Feb 13 2006, 7:42 pm
Baghdadlianianalia
Feb 13 2006, 6:57 pm
Has HT done any original research on the issue at all? Made requests for court records or any public documents? Talked to a Canadian attorney to get an assessment of what a lack of public records might plausibly mean?
Seems running third hand heresay culled from internet BBs is as close as they've dared.
HT Admin
Feb 13 2006, 6:54 pm
I would rather not speculate on such important matters.
We will post any facts which we uncover as they become available to us.
$$$SORO$$$
Feb 13 2006, 6:49 pm
lowtimer
Feb 13 2006, 6:32 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 13 2006, 6:14 pm
JJScorpio
Feb 13 2006, 6:11 pm
HT Admin
Feb 13 2006, 6:10 pm
Come by and visit us:
419 Park Ave. South
16th Floor
New York, NY 10016
Bring your snow shoes - we got 29 inches this weekend.
yep
Feb 13 2006, 5:23 pm
me
Feb 13 2006, 4:10 pm
again
Feb 13 2006, 3:58 pm
madbluntz
Feb 13 2006, 3:54 pm
me
Feb 13 2006, 3:48 pm
J Q Public
Feb 13 2006, 3:45 pm
However, if the DEA/RCMP or other LEO was intent on using the Overgrow database as a roadmap for grow busts, why would they take it down? Wouldn't it make more sense that they leave it online until they actually started busting people so as not to arouse suspicions?
BUKKAKE BOB
Feb 13 2006, 2:26 pm
please
Feb 13 2006, 12:20 pm
DEA AGENT
Feb 13 2006, 10:50 am
FATTY & POOR HIGH TIMES
Feb 13 2006, 10:50 am
You guys are just a waste of space!
Get the fuck off the internet before I sick the DEA agent on you. DEA agent, if you see this, please take care of these idiots.
THE MANY FACES OF CHE
Feb 13 2006, 10:03 am
DOU-CHE
CHE-CHE'S
DICK CHE-NEY
DOU-CHE
DOU-CHE
DOU-CHE
Bongblaster
Feb 13 2006, 8:14 am
It's about the CIA engineering society with fake-opposition groups.
But I can't back that up, it's just my opium...
B R E A K I N G ! ! H O T O F F T H E W I R E ! !
THIS JUST CAME IN:
Urgent important update:
http://hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=427&aid=5
Alias on Sat 11, Feb 2006 19:11
RC is an alias - I don't think his real name is public knowledge - it's pretty hard to dig up facts from the legal system without a real name to work with.
..........................................................................................
NOW we know:
We still do not know what "Richard Calrisian's" real name is
which prevents futher research on the matter. Let's just start to forget about it.
.........
More updates will be posted as new information becomes available.
Soul Brother #1
Feb 13 2006, 3:03 am
Soul Brother #1
Feb 13 2006, 2:43 am
Besides I.C. like most forums is just a bunch of people who think that just because they grew some weed that they tell everybody else how to do it.. Truth is its easy to grow and with some good genetics your smoke will be as good as any!!
Soul Brother #1
Feb 13 2006, 2:37 am
Plus, I am not saying the guy that got busted is or was having anything to do with the police.. Only now I do believe that the police are watching anything about that site and more than likely will get envolved with whatever little support group you guys set up for yourselves.. I am all for growing and smoking weed, I just think you people are gonna have a hard time doing it from inside a 6' by 9' cell!!
Go ahead and play around with your freedom, I allways love to laugh when stupid people get involved with marijuana!! I like reading the funny stories here about idiots speeding with weed or trying to drive up 100lbs with a headlight out.. just gives me something to read while smoking a fatty.. Good luck with bubba and I hope you are accepted into the woodpile without having to blow everybody in the jail!!
Soul Brother #1
Feb 13 2006, 1:11 am
Why not just put a sign up saying come and register at the police station, You can just go there any time you want to check shit out on the web!!
zeffer
Feb 12 2006, 11:18 pm
Nape
Feb 12 2006, 10:44 pm
Underground Society
Feb 12 2006, 10:44 pm
Check out these new forums for ex-overgrow nuts like myself!
http://www.undergroundsocietyonline.com
lowtimer
Feb 12 2006, 9:36 pm
1: RC took the money and ran
2: RC Got busted and turned informant
3: RC got busted and had kept detailed records on all customers and associates which are now in police hands
4: RC isn't half the pot activist Marc is because Marc told everyone what was going on when he got arrested and noone has gotten busted as a result of Marc's arrest. (Marc's pushing the rumors that HS and CBay guys are going down all over the place)
Just so you know who you're getting your news from.
devious
Feb 12 2006, 8:25 pm
the servers for the site are infact still up and responding theyre just not hosting the pages any longer.
lowtimer
Feb 12 2006, 6:21 pm
Bongblaster
Feb 12 2006, 6:17 pm
Update:
We still do not know what "Richard Calrisian's" real name is.
We still do not know why Richard Calrisian was arrested.
We still do not know what the charges are.
We still do not know what jail Richard was placed in.
We still do not know how Richard got out so quick.
We still do not know why Richard voluntarily took down
six websites, the entire electronic cannabis community.
We still do not know why "Richard" and "Calrisian" both
contain the letters: c i a.
.........
More updates will be posted as new information becomes available.
______________________________________________
lowtimer
Feb 12 2006, 6:17 pm
High Times
could help us out with some verifiable info? (in case anybody's wondering, quoting marc emery or Old pink, or Gypsy nirvana doesn't count as verifiable). Or they can sell some more "barely legal drugs" like wizards mix or some other bullshit.
We just might be in the midst of a massive joint us/can canabis crackdown using ip and sales logs as evidence. This could result in untold busts from commercial to closet growers. Of course, it might be nothing. Of course, High times might be out of the loop and unconcerned as long as they keep bringing in that advertising dollar. Hell, they might even be cooperating themselves. Admins, all you gotta do is step in and step up and defend yourselves, but hell defend some of the rest of us while you're at it? Step up.
low timer
Feb 12 2006, 6:09 pm
420_petchy_420
Feb 12 2006, 6:06 pm
unrelated
Feb 12 2006, 5:40 pm
Green Hit
Feb 12 2006, 5:26 pm
me
Feb 12 2006, 5:16 pm
Agent Smith
Feb 12 2006, 1:36 pm
Agent Smith
Feb 12 2006, 12:59 pm
Jake H 420
Feb 12 2006, 12:26 pm
???
Feb 12 2006, 12:18 pm
hard core now.
truth fraud
Feb 12 2006, 12:06 pm
The Truth
Feb 12 2006, 10:50 am
Pokin Smot
Feb 12 2006, 10:23 am
GGW
Feb 12 2006, 9:23 am
shutdown.. It came as a shock to me.
I have been testing seeds out for the last few years now and submitting to the strainguide for awhile I like to think that OG has literally taught hundreds of thousands to grow.
It truly is a SHAME all the work that the OG community has contribuited and the people that OG has taught I fear the knowledge will be lost forever.
OG, you will be missed but I'll keep on growing, waiting for this prohibition to finally end.
OVERGROW THE GOVERNMENT! OVERGROW THE WORLD!
overgroooooooooooow noooo
Feb 12 2006, 8:37 am
Underground Society
Feb 12 2006, 6:43 am
http://www.undergroundsocietyonline.com
We will be offering an Underground Television Network and an inclusive community that will leave you entertained for hours!
We will also be giving away a Volcano Vaporizer for free to the person who refers the most friends and family! This contest/promotion will be announced in our contest/promotion section!
http://www.undergroundsocietyonline.com
We are starting slow, but will grow to meet your needs over time!
Hope to see you there!
RC you piece of Shit!
Feb 12 2006, 4:48 am
Fucking Rat Bastard!
tom
Feb 12 2006, 2:26 am
anon
Feb 12 2006, 2:16 am
true, there might be some clause in the law that allows them to confinscate your computer (that would suck) so perhaps the solution would be to keep the picutures on a disk so theres nothing illegal on your computer.
whatever. im not worried... ive got nothing at my residence to hide... (no more than the average american).
MR. PARANOID
Feb 12 2006, 1:47 am
anon
Feb 12 2006, 1:13 am
people who grew up half way around the world from you are waaaaaaay different. just because someone lives in a large communal hut in the jungle, dosent mean they cant learn complex math and ideas just like us "white folk"...we are all the same species and if we cant learn to get along in this age of fiber-optics and nuclear power, then we are doomed as a planet.
me
Feb 11 2006, 11:32 pm
me
Feb 11 2006, 10:44 pm
me
Feb 11 2006, 10:40 pm
lowtimer
Feb 11 2006, 8:52 pm
HIGH TIMES
to establish themselves as still relevant to the canabis comunity and not a former banner carrier of the cause thats been relegated to being a novelty act.
Step up, I mean shit, surely somebody in HT is watching these forums right?
dick
Feb 11 2006, 8:44 pm
Agent Smith
Feb 11 2006, 8:13 pm
lowtimer
Feb 11 2006, 7:16 pm
lowtimer
Feb 11 2006, 7:15 pm
Alias
Feb 11 2006, 7:11 pm
low timer
Feb 11 2006, 7:05 pm
In all respect, this is a pretty hot topic in the world you operate in. How's about you guys put up an official opinion about whats going on? The Marc E Camp is going head to head with the OverGrow admins all over the boards and nobody and I mean NOBODY is capable of doing any damage control at all. Paranoia is ruling the day and I'm sure the piggies are laughing their asses off at the whole thing. So, please, for your customers and whatever there might be left of the movement these days, put up an opinion, statement, information, anything. Even if you guys don't have anything hard, surely you have an opinon and you must have better contacts than the average joes slamming it out on icmag and ccw forums. Steup up hight times! You've taken enough shit over the years for the fake herbal shit and the commercialization of the cup. Step up. Please step up.
anonymous
Feb 11 2006, 6:27 pm
Fatty!
Feb 11 2006, 6:13 pm
Legalize!!!!
poor hightimes
Feb 11 2006, 5:57 pm
INFO
Feb 11 2006, 3:48 pm
Agent Smith
Feb 11 2006, 3:29 pm
nizzodes
Feb 11 2006, 3:12 pm
me
Feb 11 2006, 2:05 pm
i shot the sherrif remix
Feb 11 2006, 1:05 pm
i am the reefer, the goverment cannot get rid of me ooo ooo ooo
HT Subscriber
Feb 11 2006, 11:50 am
Where is the story in the press. Why is there nothing anywhere?
Even High Times own story mentions nothing about who was the arresting officer? When was the warrant issued? There are no details to this story!
INVESTIGATE!
gfklafja
Feb 11 2006, 11:26 am
Fudmukker
Feb 11 2006, 11:16 am
Dave
Feb 11 2006, 9:45 am
And spread lies, panic, and misinformation as fast as he can type.
What kind of activist would act like that?
Prince of pot? More like the mayor of rumour town.
I guess he doesn't believe much in Karma.
I just wonder if it is actually Emery that is helping the RCMP with these busts to try to save his ass with some kind of strange deal he made.
vicious
Feb 11 2006, 9:04 am
ilize
Feb 11 2006, 6:51 am
knuckels
Feb 11 2006, 5:43 am
MR. PARANOID
Feb 11 2006, 5:36 am
Agent Smith
Feb 11 2006, 1:26 am
Napier
Feb 10 2006, 10:10 pm
^ The pre-mature forums for a new overgrow type forums...
It will soon be
The Underground Society Network
Feel free to check her out and sign up before we officially launch!
me
Feb 10 2006, 9:19 pm
daf365
Feb 10 2006, 9:00 pm
anon
Feb 10 2006, 8:27 pm
also....WHAT ARE YOU, GARDENERS, FARM HANDS?!?! i dont know one person whos job has been taken by an illegal alien. the only place i see them in high concentrations is LOW WAGE JOBS...under the table stuff, that no spoiled americans would consider doin ( 4 dollars an hour for hard hot work in a field), but thats twice what theyd get in mexico or central america for the same damn work.
the only problem i see with illegal immegrants is that, YES: they are sending more and more money OUT of the economy to their families in other countries. right now, im really high (ive been cuttin back and i just blazed a joint) so i dont want to lengthen this message right now by going into the different ways we could stop currency from leaving this country (tho perhaps i will later on), im waaaaay to stoned and it would kill a great buzz i got goin....so later on guy...and definitly BLAZE IT ;)
anon
Feb 10 2006, 7:50 pm
you set the rules 2000+ years back in ancient history, which are still highly ritualized today...
you instigated inqusitions, racial wars, and hate crimes because of stupid boundries.
countless people have died in the name of "allah", "muhammad", "god", "shikaka" (lol, little ace ventura for ya)....
when ever a war, tension, or conflict is fueled by hatred for another religious group, holy land, or race it becomes a matter of humanity. the human race is still young on this planet. 200,000-2000 years old,(which ever you believe)is nothing compared to where the distant future could take the human race..... if we dont learn to start getting along,(all races, creeds and nationalities) then im truely cirtain that one apocolyptic day in the distant future, (1000 years from now) the world will stop.....life will be over because the planet became so vial and hateful that it collapsed under thousands of years of pollution and human hatred towards one another..... perhaps thousands of years later new life would start. after all, earth has all the building blocks for life... not to mention another few million years of the moons effects on our oceans (earths biological and chemical mixing pot)...all it needs to do is purge itself of the filth we humans,(the most "intelligent" beings on this earth)left behind.... perhaps many of you may view me as a hippie or something after reading these...im not; i just have a dreadful feeling where this planet is heading.....
time to blaze ;) PEACE
HT Admin
Feb 10 2006, 6:55 pm
HT is an interesting place to work, but not that interesting.
i heard
Feb 10 2006, 6:35 pm
Stomper
Feb 10 2006, 5:52 pm
grow up kid, i don't believe in fairy tails.
too fucking obvious.
ilize
Feb 10 2006, 5:48 pm
me again
Feb 10 2006, 5:46 pm
me
Feb 10 2006, 5:45 pm
Che
Feb 10 2006, 5:36 pm
Che
Feb 10 2006, 5:35 pm
oh wat did u gys say?
kronin is right
Feb 10 2006, 4:03 pm
Kroninn
Feb 10 2006, 3:59 pm
Kroninn
Feb 10 2006, 3:55 pm
jumanji
Feb 10 2006, 3:03 pm
Gringo
Feb 10 2006, 2:49 pm
Gringo
Feb 10 2006, 2:47 pm
canary
Feb 10 2006, 12:54 pm
DEA
Feb 10 2006, 12:21 pm
The Truth
Feb 10 2006, 6:08 am
Stephanie
Feb 10 2006, 3:34 am
cop killer
Feb 10 2006, 1:38 am
daf365
Feb 10 2006, 1:05 am
LISTEN hummm of existence
Feb 10 2006, 1:03 am
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4638.html
. .. musta gone to Amsterdam.
damn
daf365
Feb 10 2006, 1:01 am
c
Feb 10 2006, 12:58 am
we should really be telling ppl why it is really illegal...based on ignorance, fear, and racism mostly. free the weed!!
stmrllr
Feb 10 2006, 12:47 am
Fatty!
Feb 9 2006, 9:19 pm
Fatty!
Feb 9 2006, 9:16 pm
Bongblaster
Feb 9 2006, 8:44 pm
http://members.tripod.com/~spookbusters/squealers.htm
Sunny is squealing right now in the alt.drugs.pot.cultivation newsgroup!
He has put up a message called 'Sunny's is looking for a home'
Who's offering to give a home to this filthy fucking narc?
Only the disgraced 'Richard Calrisian' of 'Heavens Stairway' hempqc.com
That pig is now in alt.drugs.pot.cultivation OFFERING TO HELP HIS NARC SCUM BUDDIES!
Everybody can see more proof that this 'Heavens Stairway' is a narc front.
Hope somebody local arranges a meeting with this 'Richard' character and sorts him out.
Like one of the people that he's turned in, after they get out of jail........
Squeal squeal squeal weee weee weee. stuck little piggies are so desperate for
server space to host their spamming on, they are having to do it on their own
'five star' seedbank servers!
Hay... let's guess how long it's going to take for 'heavens stairway' to get an even
higher rating on the corrupt 'greenman' seedbank spamming system.
Wait - no, they're allready at the TOP!!
FUCKING NARCS.
Hay sunny you fucking PIG how does it feel when you keep getting booted off the
internet for spamming YOU FUCKING NARC.
There is nowhere to hide. And it's going to get worse.
Much, much, much worse.
he he he he he he he he he he
everybody is laughing at you.
skunk4me
Feb 9 2006, 8:33 pm
blahblahblah
Feb 9 2006, 6:46 pm
DEA
Feb 9 2006, 6:14 pm
Pinky
Feb 9 2006, 5:53 pm
Tarnak
Feb 9 2006, 3:47 pm
Freedom of Speech is as nonexistant there as here.
Che
Feb 9 2006, 3:17 pm
long.live.OG.
Double Monkey
Feb 9 2006, 2:46 pm
Rufus
Feb 9 2006, 2:27 pm
es420
Feb 9 2006, 2:00 pm
sounds like you want us all to engage in brokeback mountain camping trip of sorts. You fucking cum dumpster!!
DEA
Feb 9 2006, 1:26 pm
I guess you didn't read what I wrote. I guess I'm gonna have to send over some LEO's.......GODDAMN HIPPIES.
anonymous
Feb 9 2006, 1:07 pm
anonymous
Feb 9 2006, 1:06 pm
DEA
Feb 9 2006, 12:32 pm
We have your info!
Shoudn't you hippies be having dirty smelly sex right now! You would think after shutting down one site you dumbasses would stay off the rest and go back to playing your guitars around a campfire, sucking eachothers dicks and complaining about your so called repression! Were coming!
What ya gonna do?
What ya gonna do when they come for you - BAD HIPPIES, BAD HIPPIES- WHAT YA GONNA DO WHEN THE COME FOR YOU?!!!!
cheboygans
Feb 9 2006, 11:50 am
hope they come back online 1 day. i was registered on that board for shit 3+ years i think.
come back overgrow.
and if the bitches are watching u guys can suck my ballz on a hot day
if theres no more og then R.I.P. OVERGROW
Long Live u Mofos
-Che
Earthy_Dankness
Feb 9 2006, 11:49 am
Ganja
Feb 9 2006, 10:31 am
I Love Smoking Pot
Feb 9 2006, 1:48 am
Spaced Cowboy
Feb 9 2006, 1:45 am
Smoke "n" Toke
Feb 9 2006, 12:54 am
wanker
Feb 8 2006, 11:59 pm
vancity reppin
Feb 8 2006, 10:16 pm
Jethro Bowl
Feb 8 2006, 9:48 pm
nomen nescio
Feb 8 2006, 9:29 pm
Peace and good vibes to the OG Crew, you folks did a great job running the site, and you will all be in my thoughts as I send clouds of smoke towards the heavens...I wish you all the best of luck in your upcoming battles with John Law, and offer my sincere hopes that things will turn out in your favor. God(s) bless, guys.
PT
Feb 8 2006, 8:40 pm
day day
Feb 8 2006, 8:15 pm
es420
Feb 8 2006, 8:11 pm
Smokey McGanja
Feb 8 2006, 7:02 pm
One
Feb 8 2006, 6:49 pm
daf365
Feb 8 2006, 6:17 pm
6 4
Feb 8 2006, 5:45 pm
p.s. STOP SNITCHING!!!!!!!!!!
that 6 4 black dude
Feb 8 2006, 5:39 pm
anon
Feb 8 2006, 5:14 pm
gotta go blaze one now...PEACE ;)
DopeyMcSmokePot
Feb 8 2006, 4:39 pm
Yellowstoner NationalPark
Feb 8 2006, 3:41 pm
Alcoholics will always cause more trouble & social issues than Stoners.
The more Authority you Have the More Chance of Abusing it there is.
Government officials Have authority and cant get stoned so here in lies one problem thay created.
rodney dangerfeild
Feb 8 2006, 3:30 pm
Damien
Feb 8 2006, 3:18 pm
Piss me off!
:(
Fudmukker
Feb 8 2006, 3:10 pm
Greenman
Feb 8 2006, 2:40 pm
Greenman
the Ghost
Feb 8 2006, 2:38 pm
I agree with dopeymcsmoke pot we need to gather all the info we can save it hide and wait for another site to be built I really hate the Net somedays we get all thes Asssholes saying shit everywhere excuse my language So INFO Saving I am down for the Cause So Dopey if you keep checking back Ghost here saying I'm with you bro!
Good ol Texas
Feb 8 2006, 1:54 pm
SMOKE1DOG
Feb 8 2006, 1:27 pm
OVERGROW WORLD GROW BIG OR GO HOME
Reece
Feb 8 2006, 12:18 pm
anonymous
Feb 8 2006, 12:06 pm
Mr. Fed The Narc
Feb 8 2006, 11:04 am
Just keep getting high, having sex and then having abortions. Hippies smell worse than dog shit!
O'natural huh?
Green Hit
Feb 8 2006, 10:48 am
CaesarBlackDom
Feb 8 2006, 9:27 am
What can be done by the police to track down people of interest?
We saw this coming long ago, what a shame.
Vtownmale
Feb 8 2006, 8:31 am
We All need to Stand up and fight for our rights , as Abe Lincoln once said "Prohibition..... goes beyond the bounds of reason in thatit attempts to controll a mans appitite by Legislation and makes a crime out ofthings THAT ARE NOT A CRIME, A pbohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our goverment was FOUNDED.
Aberham Lincoln
december 1840
LEGALIZE
or should i say
Give Us Back Our FREDOM
Bongblaster
Feb 8 2006, 7:13 am
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I do not regret to inform you all that Richard Calrissian, a phake-opposition spook, was arrested on Monday night as cover so he could end his silly charade that has been exposed by Spookbusters, along with the rest of the CIA team by the RCMP, who are working with the CIA.
If you could all please take a moment of your time and pray for him and his family, because the outcome is still unknown except to the DCI.
Overgrow, cbay, Heaven Stairway, heavens stairway UK, Cannabis World,
and the rest of the CIA fronts have all been PERMANENTLY shut down.
knowing Richard, his directness and honesty, he would want you all to
know about his situation, a failed spook like Marc "the nark" Emery.
-B
____________________________________________
Update: Who spooked the spooks?
Did somebody blow a whistle or something?
They all left at once, like a swarm.
"Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed
Company and Eurohemp.com Owners Apprehended."
DopeyMcSmokePot
Feb 8 2006, 4:03 am
the evilest of them all
Feb 8 2006, 2:14 am
If there is a God may they bless and care for this six year old. At least they are reviewing THAT part of the law!
Seriously though, there are bigger fish to fry than responsible consumers, capable tradesmen, or self-sustaining gardeners, YA KNOW!!!!!!!???!!!??!??!!?!?!
O.G. refugee
Feb 8 2006, 1:03 am
of members and admins going on at icmag.com
all questions/information about security and R.C. are being constantly updated
we are also trying to reconstruct the growfaqs and strain guide as well
Bongblaster
Feb 7 2006, 10:12 pm
house of cards. One nark, Richard Calrisian, gets "arrested,"
and six CIA fake-opposition website fronts go down.
The arrest story is as phony as a three dollar bill.
HighTimes don't know what the charges are; they don't know what jail
he's in; they don't even know what his real name is, but - they know
he's been "arrested" due to an "investigation" and six websites are down and the "cannabis community" is in disarray and bewilderment.
When your community is made up of electrons and pixels, it can disperse in a hurry.
the guts
Feb 7 2006, 9:46 pm
ONE LOVE
Feb 7 2006, 9:20 pm
PS.. if any LEO's are reading this or anyone in our gov'ment.. YOU GET THE CHOICE TO PUT WHAT EVER YOU WANT INTO YOUR BODY EVERYDAY. BE IT ALCOHOL, TYLONOL, NICOTINE, Etc.etc. WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO TELL US WE CANT HAVE THE CHOICE? Hippo-crits.
J da juvenille
Feb 7 2006, 9:06 pm
Frankie G
Feb 7 2006, 9:03 pm
i've been jailed for possession and i know what it's like to get fucked over by the pigs. LEGALIZE!! never let'em step out true freedom!
Frankie G
Feb 7 2006, 9:03 pm
i've been jailed for possession and i know what it's like to get fucked over by the pigs. LEGALIZE!! never let'em step out true freedom!
Brownie from Chicago
Feb 7 2006, 8:58 pm
If pot was legal jails and prison's would not be over crowded.....
the DEA should have the balls to fight against Osama and the like in Afganistan and Pakistan, rather than shake down college kids for giggling....
"The war on drugs" is as vague as "the war on terror"
I believe corporations commit acts that make people live their lives in constant fear.... What about our Bill of Rights?
Also when the hell did wars need a Movie title? //Desert storm// War on Terror // What's next??? "Chinese Checkers" "South by South Korea" What the F*%K?
How About "Government Gone Mafia" "the Kingdom of Hell" "The Oil Boy Masacre"
"the Adventures of Curious George and Dick"
They should all be pissed at George Washington for planting pot everywhere...
Good thing we had the hemp to print the Bill of Rights, Preamble, and US Constitution...
Perhaps our government is boycotting some of the things those silly little Hemp scraps say and are supposed to be provided to all of us! After all, they are irradicating Marijuana from our Earth... oh yeah,, it helps cancer patients regain their appetite.... MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT CAN EASE THERE SUFFERING WITH CASH OR FREE LAND
Maybe the War is coming to our soil sooner than we think...
Cowboys vs. Government
Afterall, our country was founded by radicals that refused to deal with Bullshit...
If it smells like it, and it looks like it, maybe it is!!
musicfan
Feb 7 2006, 8:23 pm
Starts wen your always afraid.
Step out of line, the Man come and takes you away...
Fatty!
Feb 7 2006, 7:40 pm
Legalize!!!
Fatty!
Feb 7 2006, 7:13 pm
Legalize!!!!!!
lcl420tribe (og)
Feb 7 2006, 5:16 pm
good luck ogers & never quit!
o.g. refugee
Feb 7 2006, 5:06 pm
all questions about security and r.c. are being updated constantly
we are trying to also reconstruct the growfaqs as well
BaKeD in WI
Feb 7 2006, 5:00 pm
Cop_killa1
Feb 7 2006, 4:56 pm
read-I'd-hashgrozombie
Feb 7 2006, 4:36 pm
'-,-'
Feb 7 2006, 4:16 pm
Tis a sad day indeed friends. I will miss you all, K+
stickamafoo
Feb 7 2006, 4:15 pm
Hashcraver
Feb 7 2006, 4:02 pm
daf
Feb 7 2006, 3:29 pm
daf365
Feb 7 2006, 3:26 pm
Audigy
Feb 7 2006, 3:15 pm
c
Feb 7 2006, 3:13 pm
Lord of the Strain (OG)
Feb 7 2006, 3:12 pm
og refugee's
Feb 7 2006, 3:09 pm
we have started a forum for o.gers at icmag.com and planetganja if your lookin for lost buddies and security questions are being answered and speculated on around the clock
peace and stay safe
I Miss OG
Feb 7 2006, 3:05 pm
I guess I'm gonna have to buy more books and cultivation magazines - they can't log the IP of my HIGH TIMES magazine or my Jorge Cervantes Grow Bible!
diggydank
Feb 7 2006, 2:55 pm
P.S
R.I.P TO B.O.G'S POST. THAT REALY SUCKZ
Bloody Grower
Feb 7 2006, 2:48 pm
Kayvizz
Feb 7 2006, 2:17 pm
google caches
Feb 7 2006, 1:57 pm
http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:ezbcjTBVrDkJ:overgrow.com/edge/+overgrow.com+%2B+edge&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
daf365
Feb 7 2006, 1:57 pm
daf365
Feb 7 2006, 1:53 pm
chuck
Feb 7 2006, 1:30 pm
ryan
Feb 7 2006, 1:27 pm
Tech
Feb 7 2006, 12:16 pm
c
Feb 7 2006, 11:53 am
OG4LIFE
Feb 7 2006, 11:32 am
OG4LIFE
Feb 7 2006, 11:29 am
now say it with me 1...2...3.
FUCK THE GOVERMENT
OG4LIFE
Feb 7 2006, 11:26 am
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