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UPDATE: OVERGROW OFFLINE

Popular Canadian cannabis website disappears amid owner's alleged arrest.

Tue, Feb 07, 2006 11:23 am

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source: HIGH TIMES

In a developing story, sources now indicate to HIGH TIMES that the owner/operator of Overgrow, Cannabisworld, Heaven's Stairway Seeds and Eurohemp has been arrested and has since been released. Earlier reports that suggested Overgrow's web servers may have been seized as part of an ongoing investigation have since been denied by sources close to the situation. Prior to these developments, Overgrow served tens of thousands of marijuana cultivators as a community-based website dedicated to practical advice and political advocacy. Overgrow contributers also frequently contributed to HIGH TIMES, including a monthly column of content culled from their online discussion boards.

As details continue to emerge in this case, readers are well advised to avoid all targeted websites and to continue to check hightimes.com for more information as it becomes available.


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AnonyRat

Oct 30 2009, 3:24 pm

Overgrow The World 2010!

Perhaps the simplest solution is the most visible?

Join now, invite people who will contribute, and let's get GLOBAL Cannabis Re-Legalization underway once and for all!

http://Overgrow.ning.com

paco-puff salmons

Oct 14 2009, 4:10 pm

i just found out that,ty salmons born jan.28th 1970,and butt-buddy scotty smith rolled on some people here in bksfld,ca.they are now in kerrville-tx around his correctional officer parents,who used to work for soladad prison.his sis is still at tehacaphi.just dropping the dime rite in time.love ya, paco-puff salmons.

ty salmons

Oct 14 2009, 2:37 pm

are you looking for me and scotty smith?we can be found at:1316 1/2 fourth st. kerrville, texas.we're the ones that brought down springwood court and california park.afterall, my parents were correctional officers for soladad prison and my sister lisa works for tehacapi state prison.come find me if your able.ty dewane salmons,410-41-9662-1-28-70.

paco-puff salmons

Oct 10 2009, 5:37 pm

soon,we will win the marijuana war.they have to fight us with all their might up until we actually win.but,they cant defeat us this time.our time is at hand and we wont back down.just like when our forefathers fought for our amendment rights,so it is to us the same exact fight.let us stand up and fight with the victory we know we will obtain on election day.when we have the victory,i say we get a cop stoned and sway them even more in our favor.yes, even cops smoke pot.where do you think all the weed they really seize goes?how are they really able to drive hummers?it aint from no dumbass cop salary!get a clue.victory is just around the corner for us.just hang tight and blaze hard.its going to be a real great american smoke out on election day! hopr to see you there.take care and God bless all potheads!love ya ,paco-puff salmons.

fun-keen-hutt!

Oct 10 2009, 5:26 pm

to all pothead haters and tweakers there in taft,ca.including your large in-bred ass Ed. Whiting,we have good news for us.our shit is going to be on the ballot in nov. 09.there you comy-ass bastards.hey, Ed maybe you should stop tweaking there yourself,cause your starting to look like Mike Morris's twin there and you aint getting no skinnier fat-ass!i can tell by the shape of your forehead that your mommy/daddy are cousins!we know why you like halloween,you get to pump kin!and we're going to throw a party in your mouth so every pothead can cum!ha! ha!stay down with your badselves there tafts most corrupt!but, you cant stop us,cause our revolution is winning everyday.hey, ask Ed about the narly ass boil on his enourmous ass! ha ha.gotta go. victory to all potheads!love you homies!the fun-keen-hutt!

pacopuff salmons

Oct 10 2009, 3:41 pm

hello,how are all the potheads today?hopefully lighting up a fat-one!stay down dogs!now,is the time to go register to vote.we have the power at our fingertips to get our shit legalized on nov.09.we are growing in numbers everyday and cant be stopped cause we have the need/will to succeed.not even fat-ass Ed Whiting,and Ed jr.(beilby)can stop us this time.all the fucked-up tweakers in taft tried to stop us and cant.i laugh at your fucking stupididty.your fucking with the wrong and best potheads God ever invented assholes!give up cause you've already lost the battle and the war.now comy-ass bastards go home and bawl like the babies you really are!as for Ed,jenny craig has a warrant out for your fatt-ass,dumbass.victory for all potheads!love ya,paco-puff salmons!

pacopuff salmons

Oct 10 2009, 3:30 pm

hello again,my fellow potheads.it seems that we are being infiltrated here in bksfld,ca by some wise-ass undercovers trying to pose as potheads and trying to stop the buying of our beloved irish gold in all our parks and downtown.yes,they think they are on to us but, we are well aware of your dumb-ass devices and spreading the word so we can advance our pot legalation revoultion.so go ahead,we'll still defeat you dumbasses,cause we want it more than you do.so, everyone watch your asses, and beware of stupid,dumbass,sheriffs trying to play like potheads and keep up the good work.fight for your right to light up, and please make it to the ballots in nov.09.thank you and top of the morning to all true potheads.love ya all, paco-puff salmons.

pacopuff salmons

Oct 6 2009, 4:22 pm

hello,all my fellow weedheads of america.well,it seems some wise ass has decided to fuck with our pot here in bksfld,ca.they are now trying to sell weed sprayed with cologne downtown.why dont you wise ass burn jobs get a clue and sell some real dirt weed worth smoking and quit being a pitiful,lame ass burn job disgrace to your mammas' assholes.so,paco just lettin' you know watch your weed,just in case its cop oriented sabatage.love you all.smoke till you drop!love pacopuff salmons.420time!

pacopuff salmons

Sep 16 2009, 5:12 pm

for anyone wanting to obtain a cannibus card in bksfld, ca.i have the # for the thc.foundation.org.you can call and they'll hook you up.call,1-800-723-0188.thank you and remember we all are potsmokers and have to watch each others ass right now till we get our natural god giving right to smoke pot awarded to us.our pothead revelotion is making progress everyday because of true potheads willing to take a stand and fight for our rights just as our forfathers did for our constitutional rights.so, i commend everyone exercising their right as an american to smoke pot.we salute you and someone buy that man a beer, and a joint!love ya'll, pacopuff!

pacopuff salmons

Sep 16 2009, 5:05 pm

to "fuck you stupid potheads",your just jealous asshole cause we loyal potheads get away with smoking our pot and your pansy ass cant handle getting stoned with the big girlz!so,go back to your lame ass existance, and leave the potsmoking to the professionals there boy!kiss my ass and suck my fucking dick!cause i am doing something productive as a pothead,that is advancing the pot smoking reveloution, asshole!love all true stoners!paco puff salmons.

Prawn Connery

Feb 9 2008, 10:21 am

POM is full of shit 99% of the time. You actually believed him for a moment? His claims of owning OG and putting the site back up are nonsense. Two years later and he is no closer to owning Gypsy Nirvana or OG. I did like his threats to turn over a list of money orders sent to the seedbank he formerly worked at. HEY PEOPLE DID YOU KNOW POM THREATENED TO TURN OVER A LIST OF NAMES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT? Now that is one bullshit statement I bet he can deliver on. The only one.

Sportster

Feb 8 2008, 10:35 pm

If that goof pOm was so spot on, then why hasn't he gotten OG back last year like he told me on the phone he was going to do, since he claimed to own the other half RC didn't own...BULLSHIT, RC owned it all, and he doesn't like pOm, the last frikin' thing RC is gonna do is just give up a million dollar or more web site to a clown he doesn't like...

pOm has failed on 99% of his claimes, that should speak volumes about the man's creditability....wasnt there a big article written in the mag last year something that pOm was bringing back OG??...fukin' lies, to the point of having this fine rag believeing his shit, and publishing it....Did the chief editor think of asking me, or any one else who was really involved with OG, the making and running of it, even the concept??..we're still out here!! But no...pOm hadda be the one with the article in HT about our site....and he was full of shit, and this mag published it anyways, with out any proof or confermation from the REAL PEOPLE who put OG up and ran it for years!!!

TOG is still very much alive, and if there is anything about bringing OG back, we will know before ANYONE!!!...period!!!

Nice bulliten board here...too bad I just ran across it now!!

Be SAFE ALL
~Sportz~ TOG

Disinterested 3rd party

Nov 13 2007, 1:28 pm

"Truthiness campaign" and "Truthiness" is a troll from IC mag trying to protect Gypsy Nirvana by spreading lies about Plural of Mongoose. Gypsy Nirvana stole over 2 million pounds from the company which he named himself after so he could steal and endorse cheques and steal from his partner. PoM is trying to recover those stolen assets for their rightful owner. The ICmag trolls are trying to discredit him by posting lies about him. All of this can be verified in the seed wars forum at Planet Ganja and it includes court documents showing that GN is a thief and a liar.

OVER GROWN

Sep 30 2007, 10:05 am

IS YOUR GARDEN OVERGROWN?
we are trying to pick up where OVERGROW left off...
the difference is, our site is located in the usa &
is ONLY meant for people who grow their medicine LEGALLY.
anyone who grows their medicine is welcome to help us add to the new strain guide. it's located at: overgrown.ineedhemp.com
check it out.

PEACE!

Brady

Jun 2 2007, 7:37 am

Hmm
http://www.thehideawayonline.com

news to me

Dec 30 2006, 4:11 am

Go to the Wikipedia it has all the info, the cops got them. Its a shame, Maybe some one should start a 2.0 version, it would be hard to live up to OG was so easy to use and had every thing anyone could need.

Oh well see u round

truthiness campaign

Jul 31 2006, 1:12 pm

Plural of Mongoose threatened to narc out Rez, BOG, and Reeferman. Deal with him at your own risk. He's a DEA agent trying to take down the cannabis community. Plural of Mongoose is a snitch and a narc. Become associated with him and you will be tainted forever. Consider yourselves warned. POM is a DEA agent. Read his own words on the subject.

Hayden

Jul 23 2006, 10:43 pm

I just read on Planetganja that Plural of Mongoose has power of attorney over 50% of Gypsy Nirvana limited and Seed Boutique and he's basically Gypsy's partner now. That should be interesting.

It's in the seed wars forum.

I will miss all my friend

Jun 25 2006, 12:38 pm

I cant say how sad I am. We all shared A passion for growing and had A place to share those feelings. I hope people will pull together and feel what we Felt. Under the information privacy ACT we should be able to have web sites based in the U.S.

Bookmark and see you soon!
SouthernStyle

ImissOVERGROW

Apr 24 2006, 9:03 pm

Fuck you high times. Ovegrow was perfectly fine until you dumbasses rolled over and tried to hop on something good (mainly cause your mag is a complete joke). Fuck You and no one who honestly knows how to grow and sees past your bullshit will ever buy your mag. Just keep selling fake pot to teenagers through your mag. You guys are a disgrace to the real marijuana community.

boodoo

Mar 30 2006, 3:34 pm

proof?

hankhill

Mar 30 2006, 5:30 am

to all smokers who are"nt bitching
grow your own pass it around to your friends stop trying to make a buck and give the weed away. now that will help the cause
from long time smoker "hankhill" some of u know me. so keep token. OH YEA HELLO LUCAS 4 REAL

hankhill

Mar 30 2006, 5:23 am

to grimmest
i"ve been visting high times site sense before they had a chat room and smoking alot longer than that. the usa is not your prob. one of your prob. is labeling folks look at yourself u dumb fuck! what r u some kind of hero. where does canada and every other country come cring when they need money?the usa thats where.i think the usa law onweed sucks too, but that does"nt mean the us sucks! so go fuck yourself you fucking cry babby.

Bongblaster

Mar 23 2006, 9:19 am

trippers on Mon 20, Mar 2006 23:37
you all are paranoid as fuck, CIA?? wtf is wrong with you?


Whooa hang on there..
"Spook lie number 1 - you are paranoid"
Standard government flame. Very over-done.
http://members.tripod.com/spookbusters/spooklies.htm

trippers

Mar 20 2006, 11:37 pm

you all are paranoid as fuck, CIA?? wtf is wrong with you?

Bongblaster

Mar 3 2006, 9:14 am

CIA cannabis cultivation fronts continue to drop like flies.

Their mission is over:

What Happened to Hempcultivation.com?
http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?p=406421#post406421
An interview with Rick Garcia, Marijuana.com's creator and webmaster
Buzzby | Marijuana.com | 03/01/2006

[Buzzby] Yesterday you decided to shut down Marijuana.com's sister site, Hempcultivation.com. Was this in direct response to the release of news about the January 30th shutdown of the Heavens Stairway websites (hempqc.com, cannabisworld.com, overgrow.com, eurohemp.com, cannabisseeds.com, and cannabisbay.com) and the arrest of the people who ran them?

[Rick] Yes, ...

__________________________________

"Garcia," yet another fake name containing c i a.

The spooks are making fun of you potheads.

Richard Calrisian

Mar 3 2006, 8:10 am

High folks,

I just flew in from Langley, Amsterdam.

And boy are my arms tired.

Anybody been looking for me?

Any messages...?

____________________
(confidential)
attn: Marc.

We need to get together and
get our stories straight, okay?

"He's just gone!" What the hell is that !?
Come on man, I've been selling beans for six years !!
You think they're going to buy that ????? Huh??
Cal

DROP IT LIKE ITS HOT

Mar 2 2006, 1:21 pm

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THAT GUY GOD DAMN ! I WANNA KNOW ABOUT O.G. IF IT IS COMMIN BACK OR NOT
AND U GUYS ARE TO FUCKIN PARANOID

Happy Fuzzy Bunny

Mar 2 2006, 12:20 pm

Don't make me fire up The Claw on your ass mofo...

you're wrong

Mar 1 2006, 5:11 pm

you are wrong. He is blackmailing people with their private info that he's been collecting for years. What kind of person collects other people's private documents and info (home phone #'s and addresses etc.)? That kind of person is called a SNITCH!!!

If you think that's cool, then you're just like him and should be dealt with appropriately.

Happy Fuzzy Bunny

Mar 1 2006, 4:23 pm

All PoM has done is expose some of the sleazier players in this drama as such.

If the truth hurts, perhaps it should.

yep

Feb 27 2006, 1:29 pm

truthiness is right. POM is a snitch and a risk to the security of everyone in the cannabiz.

How do we deal with snitches? Use your imagination.

Plural of Mongoose is a blackmailing vindictive maniac and dealing with him in any way puts you on the snitch list forever. Stay away from POM!!! he WILL turn on you when he needs to. That's a promise not a theory.

truthiness

Feb 27 2006, 1:26 pm

Plural of Mongoose is a SNITCH!!!

He keeps info on everyone and will willingly post anybody's private info (home numbers and addresses) if they get in his trolling way.

He has blackmailed people into not talking by threatening to reveal their private info!

Anyone caught up in his BS is suspect forever as a snitch-lover.

POM (aka plural of mongoose) has many handles online. Some of them are nice as pie and will gain entry into your life only to use your info against you later.

Consider Yourselves Warned!!!!

hossua34

Feb 27 2006, 1:14 pm

Here's a piece I wrote on the Overgrow shutdown. Any comments appreciated.

http://www.geocities.com/hossua34/written/overgrow.htm

Bongblaster

Feb 27 2006, 9:53 am

Four (4) websites TERMINATED by the CIA - because
they exposed the cannabis (pig circus) community:

=======From the a.d.p.c.no-spooks FAQ===========

(which was also terminated, but not from my personal archive)

1) 2000Students -
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Field/8042/index.html

Cutting dissection of "Seedbank SPAM" being relentlessly
pumped into alt.drugs.pot.cultivation by spooks such as
"Sunny". Comments on the "insidious" nature of the
social-engineering:

2) Spookbusters - http://members.tripod.com/~spookbusters/

Including news archives from alt.drugs.pot.cultivation,
the Spookbusters is a sizable, definitive and
authoritative text which among other hilarious and
noteworthy achievements, has obtained PGP-signed
evidence that alt.drugs.pot.cultivation is playing host
to a massive government propaganda,
intelligence-gathering and social-engineering
anti-marijuana "STING" (AKA "Sunny Greenman")

3) SORM - http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/research/sorm.htm

A short but chilling article detailing [what appears to
be] cryptographic design weaknesses etc. of the FBI
contractors proxy system at www.lpwa.com allegedly being
used in alt.drugs.pot.cultivation to track-down it's
readers as part of the global UKUSA "Echelon"
intelligence gathering system.


4) Judgement Day:
husband/wife pot-guru double-agents exposed www.internettrash.com/users/judgementday/new/phase3.htm

CIA safe house:
http://www.slumberland.seattle.wa.us/
Friends and family photos online at Slumberland and
generation-x ASG-X web pages.
Take cover and get ready for the squealing.
Original source URL
www.internettrash.com/users/judgementday/new/phase3.htm

Bongblaster

Feb 27 2006, 8:52 am

Homelandia, the Dutiful

O, danger lurks in telephones
And private e-mails, too.
We must be watched for what we say
And everything we do.

Homelandia, Homelandia,
Things can't now be the same.
Our privacy's a memory:
Big Brother's won the game.

DC Dave

----------------------------------------------------

The King has note of all they intend
By interception which they dream not of

--William Shakespeare
--------------------------------------------------------

High Tech Hyenas

Their E-missives reeking of evil,
Right here in the land of the free,
Propagandists swarm on the Internet,
Like Stasi or KGB.

Snug on the clandestine payroll,
All Judases taking their pay,
Our honored American heritage
They with their treachery betray.

Unable to stifle our protests,
Or our accusations refute,
They fall upon freedom's last redoubt
The waters of truth to pollute.

When the writers of our future history
Weigh in as to how we lost heart,
Let's hope they don't miss these vile creatures
Who surely did more than their part.

DC Dave
------------------------------------------------------

WhiteHotAfterburner

Feb 27 2006, 3:38 am

What the hell is goind on? Both IC and PG are down, nearly simultaneously.

Is there another site where everyone is going to discuss this?...thanks.

WHAB

Bongblaster

Feb 26 2006, 9:30 pm

Don't Worry . . .

The government created the electronic "cannabis community"
not to bust people, but as a function of a large-scale organization
determined to control society by controlling every communication medium. It's called the military industrial corporate media monopoly and underground fake-opposition network of spies, or micmmaufonos,
created under the new American Homeland Security Patriot Act III.


Be Happy . . .

Simple Arithmetic

Count your garden by the flowers,
Never by the leaves that fall
Count your days by halide hours,
Don't subtract for clouds at all

Count your nights by stars, not shadows
Count your years with smiles, not tears
Count your blessings, not your troubles
Count your age by friends, not years

Unknown

Well Known Grower.

Feb 26 2006, 12:03 pm

It was the professor in the libray, with a candlestick...

The amount of conjecture and conspiracy written here, reaches biblical proportions!

Stoners have the most creative minds in the world, unfortunately, here. they exibit a total lack of common sense, and the ability to put the OG shutdown into perspective.

The demise of OG may be big news in the canna community, but has nothing to do with the charges of import/export charges related to Heavens Stairway.

OG was nothing more than another discussion site, shared by people with a common interest.

If you were ignorant enough to post incriminating information about yourself, on a www site, then you deserved having to tear down your grows.

If you purchased illegal seeds, then you knew the risks before you participated.

Nobody owes us anything!

You can jump up and down screaming and moaning with your hair on fire, but it isn't going to change the situation or solve any mysteries.

When the Canadian government states thier charges publicly, I suspect many of you will be changing your screen names and running for cover to avoid embarrassment.

We'll soon find out who is slinging bullshit around here.

I'll save my judgements for that time when the facts are released.

Until then, all you little monkeys keep dancing to the organ grinders tune, to keep us entertained.

be safe!

What matters most

Feb 25 2006, 10:04 pm

As it stands we are 0-2.

1. Emery was taken down.
2. OG servers gone.

Like him or hate him Emery did contribute a large sum of money to the cause. Probably more then everyone put together.
(Doesn't mean I like him)

OG served as one of the largest or the largest community for threads on the subject.
Gone.

Just like the war on teror they hunt the money and the place of gathering.

Know your enemy.
The best chance we have is to vote in your state or province to control the resources and make it the lowest priority thing they go after.
Also decrime legislation.

However getting that past on the federal level will be the biggest battle.

Stay focused.
Do something like contrubute to Normal.
There probably the only ones willing to stick out there neck for the cause.

Best to know what your up against.
After all that is what matters most.

colliedude

Feb 25 2006, 3:00 pm

Overgrow was a place for discriminated people to meet and exchange experience, and now we are completely isolated. For me, Overgrow was the only place where I could be myself, my REAL ganjaloving self. The people behind these crimes against freedom of speech are truly a misarable bunch of individuals and I feel sorry for them. There are tons of serious problems to deal with, but they get their kicks chasing peaceful stoners and growers. Pathetic.

Human Being

Feb 24 2006, 12:10 pm

"When will we as Canadians Learn that the states as a whole including their government should back the fuck out of OUR country."

Too bad Canada didn't stick with Crazy Ivan in the 80s. I mean the Reds weren't any perfect but they didn't force wars on others. You make an alliance w/ a corporate govt. and u pay the price.

"Emery4PrimeMinister"

.... .... .... .... ....

"D E A T H T O T H E C I A"

At least you're starting to make some sense now...

"there can never be a "real" cannabis community."

Uh huh...

grimmist

Feb 24 2006, 4:43 am

When will we as Canadians Learn that the states as a whole including their government should back the fuck out of OUR country. They enjoy the wrong things like war.They remind me of a power hungry lunchroom aid in a school caf. U.S.A=undiniably Stupid Assholes. We should be able to live off our own natural resorces, and have our OWN Laws.Dumb Ass's, I spit on you. Emery4PrimeMinister.
T.McKnight

fuck you stupid potheads!

Feb 24 2006, 1:18 am

you guys really need to pull your heads out of your asses and find a way to be of some value to this world! And to answer your question, yes I used to be one of you, but really come on. After being away from this shit for 3 years, i just decided to take a look at this stupidity. It's worse than I thought! And to say fuck the government, well they are the ones that allow you stupid ass fucking potheads to sit on your ass all day every day. They arrest 1 fucking idiot every now and then and you guys cry like a bunch of babies. give me a fucking break

Bongblaster

Feb 23 2006, 10:13 pm

The saga of Richard Calrisian should remind us all that U.S.
intelligence casts a long shadow. Always remember that when reading this message board (or any political newsgroup for that matter), you are on the other side of the looking glass, where black is white and white is black, and people walk between the raindrops. Most regular posters on this message board are as phony as Riciahard Calriscia. The Internet was originally a child of the U.S. military. Always remember that.


electronic cannabis community = six websites = one man

a man without a real name

"He's just gone."
--Marc Emery

Agent Smith

Feb 23 2006, 12:53 pm

IMHO...Marc is a ego-centric fool. I dont care much about him now, he's going away. He hated OG too... and prety much anything that wasnt about him.

dontworryaboutit

Feb 23 2006, 9:37 am

i mean agent smith might not dislike some in the culture as much as emery does etc. etc.?

dontworryaboutit

Feb 23 2006, 9:26 am

i was even questioning the validity of his "cannabis culture." it must now be what i was kind of thinking, only those that agree with him or something? however, a realistics look at the cannabis community of reality has to include the whole deal etc. etc.?

dontworryaboutit

Feb 23 2006, 9:17 am

emery still wants to equate HT to everything in these happenings somehow it seems, with himself the sole worthy leader as HT has, among other things, even led readers to ruin? like ive said before to emery followers, be aware of his methods for setting cannabis laws for the world (and his politics too etc.). i mean take a look at the situation he finds himself in etc. etc. what was it, '74 since HT has been whatever HT is..?

Bongblaster

Feb 23 2006, 8:11 am

Human Being on Wed 22, Feb 2006 10:58
"I'm not saying the CIA are *good*. I'm saying they're *bad*."

Dunno man I'm confused. If they're incompitent and worthless, and have had a very high failure rate, then why should ppl worry about 'em in the first place?

_______________________________________________

You're building another straw man to tear down, agent Simpson.

I specifically said people should NOT be worried about the fakers.
(It was in my post that HT admin censored from this board.)

The CIA fakers don't bust potheads, that's not their job.

The CIA control the media.

That's their mission; that's what they do for a living.

To control the media, you become the media. It's just that simple.

There can only be ONE "cannabis community."
As long as *the government* is the "cannabis community,"
there can never be a "real" cannabis community.

It's right off the pages of Orwell's "1984."

O'Brian pretended to be in the "brotherhood" to trick Winston Smith
into asking to join - then he was screwed.

The "brotherhood," like the "cannabis community," never existed.
It was just a false front created by Big Brother.

SIX websites comprising the entire electronic cannabis community were controlled by just one spook, a community of one, Richard Calriscia.

So when I say "Down with the Cannabis Community,"
Read it as:

D E A T H T O T H E C I A

Glynwr Foster

Feb 23 2006, 1:54 am

Gypsy Nirvana is party to attempted murder. The trial will begin on the 27th. Hratch Baghdadlian aka RC was in on arranging the hit on PoM. Fucking dirtbags... and thanks to HT for helping keep the lid on Baghdadlian's whole sleazy scam instead of lifting a finger to do some actual timely reporting. Thanks. I guess your banner agreement with a violent criminal was a higher priority...

Agent Smith

Feb 22 2006, 10:33 pm

There are so many people at PG that Im afraid the servers gonna crash...I cant believe these half-baked nit-wits got involved in a murder plot...WTF were they thinking?

hammer,

Feb 22 2006, 9:57 pm

its getting dropped

Human Being

Feb 22 2006, 5:55 pm

POM's about to drop the bomb over at PlanetGanga.

Get some popcorn.

Human Being

Feb 22 2006, 10:58 am

"I'm not saying the CIA are *good*. I'm saying they're *bad*."

Dunno man I'm confused. If they're incompitent and worthless, and have had a very high failure rate, then why should ppl worry about 'em in the first place?

Human Being

Feb 22 2006, 9:43 am

"D O W N W I T H T H E C A N N A B I S C O M M U N I T Y"

Uh huh. And live the rest of the lives in the closet, cowering without any like minded interactions...? No thanks, I pass.

Now, if you don't mind...I have crops to tend to :D Have a nice day...

Bongblaster

Feb 22 2006, 9:36 am

I dunno man. You are giving the CIA WAY more respect than what they deserve. If the CIA were so good, Bongblaster, how come they couldn't


Propaganda 101.
You're building a straw-man to tear down.

I'm not saying the CIA are *good*. I'm saying they're *bad*.
They were easily exposed by Spookbusters. Their mission here
is a failure, just like the Bay of Pigs.

The only cover you spooks have now is the fact that it's mind boggling
to think the United States government would do such a thing.

But we're talking about the same government that puts cancer patients
in solitary confinement for using doctor prescribed marijuana.

It's not too much of a stretch for me.

Hratch Babeee

Feb 21 2006, 8:45 pm

Cue Butthole Surfers, Goofy's Concern

Human Being

Feb 21 2006, 2:59 pm

I dunno man. You are giving the CIA WAY more respect than what they deserve. If the CIA were so good, Bongblaster, how come they couldn't detect Pokran in 1998???????? With all those multi trillion dollar bull crap?

That too, when the "opposition" didn't bother using ANY disguises WHATSOEVER. According to the CIA, Pokran was on the radars since '74. They had NO CLUE for the WHOLE TIME and Pokran was planned for quite sometime.

MAN, if 10% of what u say on the CIA's ability is true, then they woulda detected activity in Pokran long back. And yes- Pokran was "HOT" on the CIA radar since 1974.

Man, stop hallucenating and do some growing already :D

Look yo, I don't give a F@#k about the CIA and that's why I don't live in the US territory or in any one of its "allies."
Unless the CIA is interested in losing some hardware, I don't think they'd care to intervene out here either. They were beaten once here already and we know they don't have 5% of the abilities you claim them to have!

Damn shit man, take a chill pill already.

c-ray

Feb 21 2006, 1:06 pm

before everyone gets their shit in a knot please check this link for background history on overgrow and facts about it's demise:

http://planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=9090&page=12&pp=20

Bongblaster

Feb 21 2006, 9:21 am

Human Being on Tue 21, Feb 2006 04:22
"Dood, the links don't work, but I'll trust ur words"

Of course the Spookbusters link doesn't work, because the CIA
took it down, which proves it was true.

Only the CIA have the power to take down a website like that,
and only the CIA would have a motive for taking it down.

Once again, the spooks demand a Spookbusters LINK knowing
full well that they, the spooks themselves, took the website down.
......................................................................

Human Being on Mon 20, Feb 2006 10:53
"His cover was blown by Spookbusters. It's in the public archive."

Please don't tell me this is a wikipedia article...if not, please provide me a link.

.......................................................................

Spookbusters have been TERMINATED by the CIA,
but they live on in the hearts and minds of free men.

D O W N W I T H B I G B R O T H E R

D O W N W I T H T H E C A N N A B I S C O M M U N I T Y

up with the POT plants ... down with the NARK plants

like Richard and Marc "the nark" cia pigs

*oink*oink* weee weee weee

Bongblaster

Feb 21 2006, 8:38 am

Worldwide Lowlife

You may find it hard to conceive,
But some write what they don't believe.
Have you noticed them yet?
They're spooks on the Net.
Their purpose here is to deceive.

Nether Creatures

Consider common Net spooks,
The lowest of the low.
When they can't do real spy work
This is where they go.
But there's a sadder station
That they might reach some day:
They make convenient patsies
Like Oswald and McVeigh.

Net Spooks

Don't you wonder sometimes how a man can endure
Knowing that he's a provocateur,
Like the fellow who worked for our secret police
And ruined the professor, Don Jose Solis?
But among all the jobs one might see as a curse,
People labor at one that is probably worse.
They work to subvert our democracy,
And they treat honest folk as the enemy.
Should they be found out, they'd be rightly hated
By those they have roundly manipulated,
But somehow they cope with the private disgrace
Of being paid agents in cyberspace.

Human Being

Feb 21 2006, 4:22 am

Dood, the links don't work, but I'll trust ur words. Anyways, if RC was a narc the best way to do a mass bust is to have the site up and running while nobody is suspecting anything. I'm assuming a "spook" will not want ppl. to get alarmed.

Anyways, I don't believe in half these "legendary" abilities of these co called spooks. The NSA/CIA combine were beaten hollow in our area several times.

In all due honesty, it's still a B2B case, nothing more...

hollo

Feb 21 2006, 4:13 am

FUCK!!

Bongblaster

Feb 21 2006, 12:39 am

The spook asked for a link, it's in here:

====From the spook archive=======

Pop the champagne corks - sunny's taken another hit.
Doesn't he take the punishment well!
Squeal piggy squeal
We just love it when the piggy squeals.

It's about a year since geocities booted 'Sunny' for SPAMMING and he had to move to Tripod. But even Tripod, one of the most liberal servers on the net, booted Sunny Spammer after a prolonged period of the filthy narc spamming his 'Seedbank Ratings Scam' at this infamous URL:
http://members.tripod.com/~bbop/seedbanks.html

It is widely believed that the ~bbop username meant "buzz buds operation"

Jeez - even TRIPOD kicked the narc off because his spam was so DISGUSTING

Sunny has been proven a narc -
http://members.tripod.com/~spookbusters/squealers.htm

Sunny is squealing right now in the alt.drugs.pot.cultivation newsgroup! He has put up a message called 'Sunny's is looking for a home'

Who's offering to give a home to this filthy fucking narc?

Only the disgraced 'Richard Calrisian' of 'Heavens Stairway' hempqc.com That pig is now in alt.drugs.pot.cultivation OFFERING TO HELP HIS NARC SCUM BUDDIES!

Everybody can see more proof that this 'Heavens Stairway' is a narc front. Hope somebody local arranges a meeting with this 'Richard' character and sorts him out.

Like one of the people that he's turned in, after they get out of jail........

Squeal squeal squeal weee weee weee. stuck little piggies are so desperate for server space to host their spamming on, they are having to do it on their own 'five star' seedbank servers!

Hay... let's guess how long it's going to take for 'heavens stairway' to get an even higher rating on the corrupt 'greenman' seedbank spamming system. Wait - no, they're allready at the TOP!!
FUCKING NARCS.

Human being

Feb 20 2006, 3:36 pm

and really, it will be pretty dumb of RC to fall into a short run business trap- especially after constructing something like OG/CC/CW/HS...

Human Being

Feb 20 2006, 2:47 pm

Thanks for the rational reply JJ. Appreciate that.

Anyways, I can't comment on RC's EXACT case because I wasn't involved. But me+my collegues've dealt w/ B2B case in US. I don't wanna elaborate I hope u understand.

Anyways, when shit hit the floor, we pretty much went on stealth mode 100%. No commo. No calls. No info. Nothing. We just "blanked" out. Making intl. calls was barred too BTW. We decided against contacting ANY collegue or consumer on our own decision as to not attract prying eyes, though we coulda.

We just took safety of the consumers to the max. We didn't care if ppl. talked shit either. The ordeal was 2 months, till we could get the case suspended. You know, a B2B case is a lot more complex than an individual case.

Suppliers. Ppls. They all flipped the f@#k out. I understood. But they were safe in the end.

All I'm saying is that, I see some similarities in RC's case although our businesses were a bit different.

I just hope RC is thinking along the same lines we were.

JJScorpio

Feb 20 2006, 12:10 pm

I commend your ability to discuss this rationally. I also agree that there are investigations that take months. But, if this were the case they would have had RC state that he was shutting down for a while, and not let people clean house or let the other seed sites in Canada close their websites. If GN would have waited a period of time to "donate" seeds it might have worked, but they knew they only had a short period of time for the shock to wear off and people would start asking questions...

Human Being

Feb 20 2006, 11:42 am

JJ- I'm not supporting GN or RC. I just say we wait till April 2nd to 3rd week. The facts will surface by then for SURE.

I've dealt w/ a similar case in the USA and it took about 2 mos for shit to get 100% fully resolved.

And believe me JJ Scorpio, doing biz by ripping ppl off is VERY short lived. They always meet a fitting fate.

If this surfaces out to be a scam, then I'll bet- the scammers will get a huge rod at their rear ends.

But now, I just request we wait till Apr. 2nd - 3rd week...

JJScorpio

Feb 20 2006, 11:16 am

Wouldnt it be better to stick to the facts we do know. There has been no arrest. Period. This was nothing but a scam to get a bunch of smucks to buy a load of seeds. From now on if anyone is going to state there was an arrest, show us the proof you have to make such a statement, and dont use Gypsy Nirvana. His credibility is zero in my book after he pocketed tens of thousands of dollars from the Tsunami...

Human Being

Feb 20 2006, 10:53 am

"His cover was blown by Spookbusters. It's in the public archive."

Please don't tell me this is a wikipedia article...if not, please provide me a link.

Nobody is mixing "nukes with spooks" or "zooks with wooks" or whatevers. That's only done on SAT tests. I was only using it as a symbolism thing.

Coming back to NK, all I'm saying is, at this point, I'd be more worried about a North Korean missile launch rather than RC being a spook. The chance of the former is 0%- I'm sure you agree...

Bongblaster

Feb 20 2006, 9:50 am

Are you mixing apples with oranges, or, spooks with nukes, because spooks have nukes on their minds?

===========From the public archive=============

About North Korea's Taepo Dong 2 missile ...

In a December 2001 report, the CIA estimated a 10,000 km (6,200 mile)
range for the two-stage version, enough to hit Alaska, Hawaii...

and,

15,000 km (9,300 miles) range for the three-stage version,
enough to hit any point in North America.
________________________________________________________


Let's just forget Korea and stick to the topic of Richard Calrisian being a spook.

His cover was blown by Spookbusters. It's in the public archive.

The pieces of the puzzle fit together if, and only if, Richard Calrisian is a spook.

The "cannabis community" is really the "spook community."

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

"Birds of a feather, flock together."

And spooks of a feather, link together.

Human Being

Feb 20 2006, 8:27 am

"The implications of Richard Calrisian being a spook are huge."

The chances of RC being a spook is much less than the chances of say- a North Korean Taepo Dong 2 hitting Los Angeles next year...which is pretty freakin' close to zero...

Human Being

Feb 20 2006, 8:01 am

SOB dude, it's just a B2B case involving import/ export of narcotics in Canada. That's all.

Man your conspiracy theories are as absurd as one of the guys who tried to spread a UFO rumor in our area. He took a hi res photo of a TU-95 Bear D airborne and said it was a UFO. Everybody had the laugh of our lives, that's it. It was surely amusing, though :D

Hey- you should try and produce a TV drama or something...

Bongblaster

Feb 19 2006, 8:29 pm

The implications of Richard Calrisian being a spook are huge.

It means the so called "cannabis community" is basically one person, or one human being, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

--------
Bongism #27
Propaganda castles built so fine, collapse beneath the salty brine.

Suggestion- Bongblaster..

Feb 19 2006, 6:09 pm

"...smuggling narcotics through the mail?"

Eh...smuggling narcotics through the mail in bulk from growers outside your country of business comes well under import/ export.

The complication in Overgrow is that it was in Canada: cannabis seeds are treated as the same as cannabis so any penalties going with importing seeds (thru an online txn) is the same as that of importing actual cannabis. The overgrow case comes well within the jurisdiction of local BC laws. Or Canadian laws at the most and will be handled as such.

The reason why ME's case went differently was because of publicity- plus there was photographed evidence of cannabis seeds sold IN BULK in his retail shop. Him smoking a bongload in the vicinity of the parliament house didn't help matters either, but mainly it was the former. The photographed evidence was a major problem- media + intl. publicity didn't help matters either. And he formed a damned political party on top of all this.

I don't think RC's case was like that. Since there was no physical retail outlet involved, it gives the defendent (RC) more scope to negociate a defense.

Shutting down the servers was technically not necessary but was done in case they do get siezed and shadow drives (forensic tools- physical/ software) are installed.

The chances are Overgrow servers themselves won't get siezed because they serve no real purpose. The charges are on RC himself. And it's certainly not worth the resources to externally track down. He shut it down to prevent any possibility of IP logging. HE knew he came under the radar screen and well- just shut down all his auxiliary sites (like OG) as a safety measure.

If they were siezed, the servers'd be unpingable for a set duration of time (even if a short burst). They were monitored round the clock and were always pingable.

So, he's prolly getting his defense team preparing. That's what he should be doing anyways...

Human Being

Feb 19 2006, 3:38 pm

Forgot to clarify something dude...

but there is no such crime of "import/export of seeds."

In Canada, the import and export of cannabis seeds is treated the same as the import and export of cannabis itself. Consult a Canadian lawyer.

Human Being

Feb 19 2006, 3:25 pm

ROFLMAO

Man, a "communications bar" means being denied a specific communications facility normally available to the public.

If you imported leather jackets into the US from Uzbekistan and sold them (in the US of course) as "Prada, Made in Italy" and get caught and u use the bail, you won't be able to use international calls as a bail condition, I can assure you that.

Considering the nature of RC's business, him not being able to use the Internet as a bail condition isin't something new. And- you cannot compare a B2B crime w/individual crime.

Have you ever been charged with a B2B crime in North America? Or have you dealt with anyone who has? I doubt it...

I know there's nothing wrong with running websites in Canada. But still, Overgrow was clearly an important auxiliary (i.e. og complemented RC's biz) to RC's core business. So don't you think it'll be wiser to shut down the auxiliaries as well until the core issues are solved???

Overgrow will run again, but under new spook management,
probably "Human Being."

Ha ha ha ha ha, I'd love to run OG :D

ANyways, please check with an independent business consultant on your doubts "offline." Seriously.

Hctarh

Feb 18 2006, 9:38 pm

Journalism or Coverup Test:

Hratch Baghdadlian
5005 Blvd Gouin Ouest
Montreal QC

End of Test

Bongblaster

Feb 18 2006, 7:32 pm

(HB)
"The charges are import/ export of seeds man. It's quite obvious."

(B)
Thanks for going on the record as saying Richard Calrisian was
arrested, but there is no such crime of "import/export of seeds."
Do you mean smuggling narcotics through the mail? That must be what you mean.

(HB)
The overgrow.com servers were located in Canada NOT Europe (for logistics). Canada can get unsafe when such a business becomes big, thanks for the Southern neighbour.

(B)
Hosting a cannabis website is not against the law. If it was you wouldn't be reading this. Why would Richard be worried about his legal websites after he was charged with the crime of smuggling narcotics. His six websites would be the least of his problems. He should be spending his resources on finding a good lawyer and get a deal cut, maybe get ten years instead of a hundred.

(HB)
And for crying out loud, when a communications bar is imposed on you, direct communications is tricky. Going public even to a small degree when under fire attracts prying eyes, I'm sure you know this.

(B)
I did an advanced google search on "communications-bar" and the only thing that comes up is: Federal Communications Bar Association, so you're just making stuff up.

(HB)
Man, on 2nd week of April tops, Overgrow will run again out of European servers. I'll bet on THAT.

(B)
The spook "Richard Calrisian" has been decommissioned.
Overgrow will run again, but under new spook management,
probably "Human Being."

He's on this thread like the ugly on an ape.

,

Feb 18 2006, 2:29 pm

hahaha, you guys at High times got scooped by some local yokals in Idaho!

JJScorpio

Feb 18 2006, 11:32 am

I would agree that you are correct that OG will be back. I also think you are correct that it will not be the same. I think the big ruse Gypsy created at IC is about finished. The only people believeing it any longer are those who had previously been given free seeds, or those sucking up to get some. Either way, this sick joke has created damage that will not soon be forgotten. I only hope GN pays the only way that hurts him. Deep in his stinking pocket.......

lucky 7

Feb 18 2006, 10:33 am

human being: " when a communications bar is imposed on you, communications are tricky."

Ah ha . . . . this could be a real piece of the puzzle.

The People look forward to the re-emergance of Overgrow. But will it ever be the same??
Don't let the Man beat ya down!

It was a wild ride while it lasted!

Human Being

Feb 18 2006, 1:33 am

The charges are import/ export of seeds man. It's quite obvious.

The overgrow.com servers were located in Canada NOT Europe (for logistics). Canada can get unsafe when such a business becomes big, thanks for the Southern neighbour.

And for crying out loud, when a communications bar is imposed on you, direct communications is tricky. Going public even to a small degree when under fire attracts prying eyes, I'm sure you know this.

Man, on 2nd week of April tops, Overgrow will run again out of European servers. I'll bet on THAT.

Bongblaster

Feb 17 2006, 10:07 pm

"Looking at the timeframe, I can assure you it will be over by the mid April tops."

WHAT will be over by mid April? Another operation green-merchant?

"OG will run again, in safer waters."

The waters have been safe for six years, what made them unsafe now?

If Richard Calrisian was arrested, there has to be charges, what are they?

I'm not asking for an arrest report, just the reason he was arrested.

What are the charges?

Shouldn't Richard at least leak the charges and say: I was arrested
for (fill in the blank)?

no charges = no arrest = phony arrest = phony Richard = phony websites
= phony community = fake opposition = s p o o k s

Come up with some charges, Human Being.

And quit squirming in ambiguity.

Human Being

Feb 17 2006, 11:26 am

"We'll never know if the cover story is true or not because things are just too SILENT around here to find out the truth."

Looking at the timeframe, I can assure you it will be over by the mid April tops. OG will run again, in safer waters.

"The arrest itself would be public knowledge. This isnt Russia or Istanbul......"

Please look into Irvine, CA approx 4 months after 9/11. Did anything go down there? I invite you to do all the research. Pls. browse thru ALL records you can find. If you can come up w/ something I'll send a yacht your way :D

We ain't talking NYC here (ground zero). Irvine, CA, which is pretty laid back by US standards, I believe...

JJScorpio

Feb 17 2006, 10:40 am

Has anyone here actually seen the ever elusive RC? I have not. Does he exist? I agree if there ahs been an arrest it would be to his best interests to keep quiet. The arrest itself would be public knowledge. This isnt Russia or Istanbul......

Bongblaster

Feb 17 2006, 9:25 am

Silence of the pigs:

First, Agent Simpson says that it's RC that's being "silent."

"His silence is probably for the better as any statement he makes will attract prying eyes- unwanted crap."

Then, he says it's the cops that are keeping things "silent."

"Do they REALLY have to make an 'arrest' or 'raid' public? Homeland security...ah! Go to the Queens (NY) and talk w/ a Pakistani cab driver or two..."


Sure spook, we believe you. Let's just keep things SILENT.
Richard Calrisian was arrested, and we must accept it, because
that's the only thing that could explain his six websites going down,
unless he's a nark.

He shouldn't talk about it though, for his own safety, and the cops and media won't talk about it either, because they don't have to.
We'll never know if the cover story is true or not because things
are just too SILENT around here to find out the truth.

MasterShake420

Feb 17 2006, 9:21 am

ME says the RC is a psuedonym and his real name is Richard Baghdadian, now why would ME say that?

Human being

Feb 17 2006, 7:57 am

Arg! Can't edit posts? Anyway, on RC ratting out, it's BS too.

When doubting a person's integrity please do look at his business rep. In my biz experience, only sites running with a short run vision tend to "fold" or "rat." RC did neither.

PPl emphasizing quality always keep consumer base in the core of business affairs. And I think RC was a benchmark here. Not to mention his shelf life was FAR BETTER than MANY PHYSICAL businesses we see nowadays.

Narcing out kills you in the business field and RC knows that. And yeah, whatever perks one gains out of snitching is NOTHING...you're surely fucked for life here. I mean if u have the brains to run OG/CW/HS/, you must have the brains to know this...

His silence is prolly for the better as any statement he makes will attract prying eyes- unwanted crap.

Do they REALLY have to make an 'arrest' or 'raid' public? Homeland security...ah! Go to the Queens (NY) and talk w/ a Pakistani cab driver or two...

If $hit hits the floor, you'd best recuperate and channel all your energies towards your defense and nothing more...especially if you're more "biz" than "political."

A DEA top guy (I'd rather be a disease infested donkey but anyways..) would not close down the site and arrest RC like they did. I'd want the sites up and running and then do a blitzkrieg series of busts.

RC is not a public person neither, so I don't see why he should go all out on media.

This entire speculation looks like the hallmarks of a politician come businessman.

Human being

Feb 17 2006, 7:44 am

This ludicrous large scale manhunt thing is complete BS. I'll take an extra step and call it bullshit. I mean, be careful and all but don't freak...

Let's set aside the DEA. Let's move on to the NSA AND the CIA. They supposedly have all this trillion dollar satellite shit that can detect what brand of underwear I'm wearing...

But they failed MISERABLY to detect the Pokhran tests in 1998. Do a google. The locals knew that all those high tales put forth by the NSA/ CIA was horse shit. And it was proven. The nuclear material was hauled in overhead rail for crying out loud! Pokhran was planned for quite sometime and the CIA/NSA combine had NO IDEA about the whole thing whatsoever.

The whole time, they just issued warnings on what they're capable of doing and nothing more. So, I sincerely advise the community to keep its cool and continue doing what we're best at :D

Powered By Weed

Feb 16 2006, 5:59 pm

Yeah ok w/e. No1 knows, every1 is guessing. I learned what I needed to know from OG so fuck it. The forums were filled with asshats and retards anyways.

edge

Feb 16 2006, 4:26 pm

and so goes "the days of our lives"...lol.

Bongblaster

Feb 16 2006, 11:31 am

Mere words alone cannot express how shocked, stunned, grief-stricken,
upset, pained, horrified, tear covered, swollen-eyed, confounded,
confused, discombobulated, bewildered, and generally taken aback by the
untimely demise of our beloved Richard Calrisian who was found frozen to
death in a jail cell in Pennsylvania standing on his head.

I also feel a strong since of outrage and anger toward those who
question not only whether Richard Calrisian died, but whether he in fact
was a real person. Some of the more cynical bastards in this thread
have claimed that he was nothing more than a screen name, a fictitious persona, that he did not die but was merely decommissioned.

(this could be the foundation for a new religion)

If by some wild stretch of the imagination this nonsense about Richard Calrisian being decommissioned is actually true, ask yourselves WHY was
he decommissioned. The WHO and HOW are merely scenery for the WHY.
WHY was he decommissioned? WHO benefited and WHO has the
power to cover it up?

JJScorpio

Feb 16 2006, 10:46 am

Sad News on RC...please read
It is with great sadness that RC, HS and CW have been taken down by the authorities in Canada.
I have it from a bonafide source that it happened on Monday and RC's computers/servers have most probably been seized. They spent 2 days going through his house and removed a lot of stuff.
His wife and some members of his family were taken into custody, and it is possible she may be released tomorrow on bail. There has not been a peep in the media about this so there is a reason it was not advertised by LEO....BE WARNED! not to try and log onto Overgrow or Cannisbusworld for now sisnce most certainly the security of those sites has beem compromised, and if it comes back up without me first hearing from RC, then it is not being run by him. Think about it! This could bring up some real security issues with many OG and CW members....be warned guys and do what you have to do, to make it safer for all of you....duck and cover...if needs be...
...Yours Faithfully.....
Gypsy Nirvana

Theres your blame folks......

JJScorpio

Feb 16 2006, 10:28 am

How can you say that Gypsy Nirvana is not the bad guy here? His comments caused hundreds to tear down. Maybe you havent read his post stating RC had been arrested and the servers were most likely taken. Any OG member with half a brain that believed him had to tear down. He then stated he spoke with RC in person. WTF does Emery got to do with this? Nothing. He isnt the one who started a rumor of an arrest and then " donated " $155,000 dollars worth of seeds for a defense fund to "donate " as the " good start " as he calls it. Go right over to International Censorship and talk to the ONLY one that got this going......

MasterShake420

Feb 16 2006, 10:07 am

Cmon now everyone, GN and RC are not the bad guys here, why in the world would anyone listen to ME, that guy is as dirty as it gets. I also think its highly unlikely that all the OGers would get traked by their IPs. Not going to happen so settle. I would however worry if you any connections to ME, he will sing like a canary before he does any time, guarenteed.

..

Feb 16 2006, 12:04 am

Overgrow and the rest of the sites are down. The public doesn't know for sure why.
Theories abound as to why.
icmag, cc, and planetganja are housing various factions of the discussion (Marc E's crew at their home CC, Gypsy Nirvana and OverGrow Mods at Icmag and numerous OG Expats at PlanetGanja.
Anyone that knows what's going on is either A)not talking or B) drowned out by the bullshit and infighting.

Powered By Weed

Feb 15 2006, 11:18 pm

So....in a nutshell, some1 wanna explain wtf is going on? I don't want to try and sift facts out of all the crap that all the coke heads and 12 year olds have posted. :

Hratch

Feb 15 2006, 4:31 pm

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edge

Feb 15 2006, 4:21 pm

I let Marc and David know of my concerns prior to HempBC going down. I also wrote what would have been OG's first editorial and featured article in it's premiere and submitted it to ~s~ and angrydyke...only to pull it at the last minute because I could tell then the seedwars were vicious.
Overgrow grew. It grew to be in the top 100 most visited sites in the universe. But is that really what was intended by the founders of Overgrow. Cannabis Capitalism has claimed another victim in the wake of the well publicized arrest and potential extradition of the self-proclaimed "prince of pot" Marc Emery. Not the war on drugs, not the rcmp or dea, but greed and capitalism; weeds in the garden killed Overgrow.

Criticism of Cannabis Capitalists goes to tactics and motivation. It hasn't helped the movement. Carefully study the sheep who hold Emery in reverence. Their arguments are fervent even if void of substance. Even Bill Gates finally was shamed into philanthropy. Emery's "philanthropy is ALL about Marc Emery. Emery's interest is pure business, not philosophical. In the U.S. backlash from Emery's attempts to compare Vancouver to Amsterdam has set back carefully designed strategies to influence public opinion. To his credit, he has excited legions of followers who have the right spirit. Unfortunately, he has not measured his adversaries, and the movement has suffered as a result. You do not conduct a frontal attack against an enemy with a hundred fold the manpower and resources that you have. Emery believed he could continue a war of attrition and he is mistaken. "how can I make a buck" and exploit the believers in the legalization movement. In that sense, Emery is no better than the Tijuana Cartel. Time to go back to recent days where special causes like the A-1 defense fund-raising efforts were of primary concerns to the OG community.

Hratch

Feb 15 2006, 3:54 pm

Hratch

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ruined

Feb 15 2006, 3:36 pm

I want to hear from anybody that had what happened to me because of Marc Emery Seed Sales that happened to them because of buying from Overgrow or this Caltrisian person. Waht happened to me is that I ordered seeds from Marc Emeryy Seed Sales and then got busted because the DEA was tracking his entire operation including his website and his store. They want me to testify against him at his trial but I will not and now I am sure to face federal time as well as forfeiture. I called up his people as soon as I got popped and they were rude-ass mofos who basically didn't care and they told me that Marc Emery knew years ago that the DEA was using his mail order business to track and bust people even though he will publicly say that thats not true. The people at the Overgrow and the Gypsy Nirvana sites they may be aholes but I think that if you look at the facts you will see that lots of people have already been busted because they bought beans from Marc Emery so I find it funny that Marc Emery is now making a big deal about Caltrisian because as far as I can tell nobody has been busted because they did business with Caltrisian but they have been busted because of Marc Emery. Even on Marc Emerys own website they admitted that the DEA was getting all the seed orders and going after the growers, so if you want to worry about getting busted I think that if you are in the U.S.A. and you ordered from Marc Emery that you are the ones who should be most worried. Just my two cents.

edge

Feb 15 2006, 2:44 pm

Cannabis capitalism....it's what's wrong with marc, gypsy, RC...OG started as more a gyo resource and fun as fuck place to hang as we all recall...now we have backstabbing ratfuckers too...capitalism...don't ya love it...?

JJScorpio

Feb 15 2006, 2:14 pm

I have again just been informed that there are no records of arrests for in/ex of seeds in Montreal. As far as I am concerned, enough is enough, there has been no arrest. This of coarse does not mean someone isnt cooperating with police, because they could be. It is now time for Gypsy Nirvana to come forward with the reasons for him doing what he did. I think we all know, but I for one would like to hear it from him......

DEA AGENT

Feb 15 2006, 1:42 pm

DEA AGENT HERE TO RAID HIGHTIMES AND ALL OF ITS CUSTOMERS GROW OPS

R.T. in W.V.

Feb 15 2006, 1:16 pm

For the folks who tore up there crops, you asked for it.

The #1 rule with growing is to tell nobody. So why the hell would you tell the world by posting your grows and show pix's and giving details?

So now you sit and cry and keep looking out your windows, because you broke the rules. Don't cry to us, you stupid ass, your the one who posted.

THCmolecule

Feb 15 2006, 1:14 pm

Here's what we know so far:
1. OG is gone for now. Despite rampant rumor, no one knows when or if it will return. There is good speculation all over the place. But for now, OG is gone and we don't expect it back anytime we can count on.
2. RC/RB, owner of OG/HS/CW told Plural of Mongoose and Marc Emery he was busted. Those who say RC/RB has made no statements publically are ignoring these statements he made by proxie, through Marc and PoM.
3. RC/RB was not arrested/arraigned. We know this, because that info is public in Canada. Therefore, we know he was not arrested. It is possible that he was raided for info, but not arrested. But why does Gypsy Nirvana/OldPink insist that he and he wife were arrrested/charged and releaseed... also that he r/c cant comment pubically because the case is now before the courts. Why do thet keep repeating this lie?
4. Places besides OG have been raided, but info is way sketchy. A few seed selling websites have gone offline, but no information about why has come out. We know that at least some affected seed ompanies were connected to RC's business, through doing business with one another, and we know of no seed companies affected that did not do business with RC.
4. Marc Emery and Plural of Mongoose both report that RC/RB must be cooperating with the police.
I think this pretty much brings us up to date. Now, we all are waiting to see what information comes out to corroborate or refute the theory that RC/RB/OG/HS was raided and is cooperating with the police.

So far, it appears if you did business with RC, you could get a visit from the law. While it is technically possible that the police could find all OGers, or something like that, just from their posts and intercepted web traffic, there is no reason to think LE will get that far.

So, now, we wait and listen... for busts and gov. announcements...

huh

Feb 15 2006, 12:54 pm

funny, people begging high times...will you please go get some news high times? this is how you be a reporter now, could you please go get the info for us. not like its their job or anything. but we have news of a huge pillow fight, is that not good enough?

HRATCH

Feb 15 2006, 12:49 pm

Oh it was just a local seed bust, not even enough to make the local papers. Nothing to see here, move along!

JJScorpio

Feb 15 2006, 10:36 am

HT Admin, can I get you guys to call the City Court of Montreal. You need to ask them if there has been an arrest in the City for the inp/exp of marijuana seeds. I really need a day off of this stuff, lol. Better yet, get the number of a drug Lawyer in the city and give him a couple hundred bucks to check for you. Arent you guys getting sick of people tearing down their grows?

dontworryaboutit

Feb 15 2006, 9:49 am

mexico in control now would be nice if they kept the old business model etc. etc.?

dontworryaboutit

Feb 15 2006, 9:40 am

i mean just picture of the near highest quality, cheap quantities replacing everything coming from mexico? if youre not growing your own (and plenty free seeds will then be provided too etc.) youll get $500 highs for $100 etc.? it has to have moved some to mexico?

dontworryaboutit

Feb 15 2006, 9:21 am

seeds are an interesting level but HT seems to know whats legal, for themselves etc. i was thinking the worth of a plant by selling/getting for its seeds as much as they seem to sometimes be able to get and it would be a very big $$$$ business, thats for sure. as it all goes today it only seems logical that seeds would become a major target. it seems rather late in very high quality genetics distribution though, just overlooking what will survive as the industry..?

This whole story is spec.

Feb 15 2006, 7:21 am

I love the spin they're putting out now.

One guy, Lothar, claims that it was just a simple seed bust. In the (huge??) city of Montreal, city of stabbings and sex trades, a bust about seeds wouldn't even make the paper.

But then two minutes later, they say he was charged with IMPORT / EXPORT OF SEEDS. Not just posession... but import AND export. They know about his seed business. They know he bought seeds from both Canadians and Americans. They know he was selling them across Canada and back to other Americans. They know he had a thriving registered business doing this where he kept legal books and PAID GROWERS BY CHEQUE. They know all of this because he was charged with import and export. Read between the lines, people. Some people might paint a rosy picture on it but the cops know what was happening and will eventually trace down all of his properties, including Overgrow.

The-Jack

Feb 15 2006, 3:09 am

RIP OG
And a short word on that note ,
why not use a weed related IRC network (irc.highrc.net, irc.weedchat.de) where users can interact and are protected against such things that happend to OG since there are no logs or physical records of what users are doing or saying :D.

Big O to the P

Feb 15 2006, 2:22 am

Congrats on your traffic HT, and JJ - sometimes I believe your the only sane one out there.

TOG

Feb 14 2006, 9:57 pm

...the disappear theory was suggested last week on icmag..then Emery from cannbisculturedotcom picked up on it.

lol @ Bongblaster..come on mate...think of something original......CIA was a good, I like it but I think ign you can do better than that..how about RC had a sex change operation?

Bongblaster

Feb 14 2006, 9:25 pm

I'm going to give HT admin the benefit of the doubt and repost
my article without the "inflammatory" part, and pose a question.

____________________________________________________
###### Breaking update on the Richard Calrisian Arrest #######

He wasn't arrested. His "arrest" was a fabrication, like his name.

All the people that say he was arrested are government liars.

"Richard Calrisian" is now just another de-comissioned spook.

The conservatives taking over the Canadian government had
nothing to do with it. That was part of a clumsy cover story.

"Richard Calrisian" was exposed as an undercover CIA agent
in 1999, along with Marc "the nark" Emery. You can prove it
with a Google search.

He sold narcotics over the internet for six years and then
fakes his own "arrest" and now, "he's just gone."

Are we to believe that sometime during the last six years Richard
Calrisian had a change of heart and resigned from the CIA and
came over to the other side and morphed from a spy into a laid
back friendly pothead that just wanted to help people grow pot ??

Or, are we to believe Richard Calrisian never was a spook but
for some unknown reason, he's mysteriously doing something
real spooky right now, like disappear?? That's why they call them:

SPOOKS

Defilers of reality
Bane on the human race
Masters of Immorality
The fiend without a face

fabulous

Feb 14 2006, 8:40 pm

Excuse Me for interjecting, but isnt this a thread about what happen'd to overgrow?

Lets save the back biting for the areana and not in public shall we?

We all want to see a conclussion to all this BS but lets not do it in public hay. You All Know Who You Are.

So Look at what your doing here, and look at who's looking at you.

WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS

Yeah and all you kids shoudn't be reading this anyways.

So FUCK OFF AND PLAY BALL

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 8:14 pm

I am sorry for the mistake. GN said the total was less then $1200.00......

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 8:12 pm

And furthermore, didnt GN admit to "forgetting about the Tsunami fund "? And then didnt he say he calculated the figures and it totaled less then 12,000 dollars? He expects people to believe that. I spent nearly 400 myself. Please tell me what part isnt true. As for going back and listening, I got my posting shut off when I inferred that I thought it was another " donation " scam. Please tell me what part of these comments arent fact.....

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 8:08 pm

Team Overgrow, I again ask for you to tell me what is twisted and false? The first day GN posted that RC had been arrested and to do what needed to be done for safety as security could have been compromised. In one day 11 people told me they tore down. GN then reported he had spoken to RC and he was home with family and it appeared the servers were ok. Mark Emery then posted RC had ratted and GN went back to the protect yourself as he did again today. In total I know of 43 people who have tore down because of these statements. During this time. did GN not say he was donating 155,000 dollars in seeds? Please explain to me and everyone else what part of this is false. Hurry, more people are tearing down....

me

Feb 14 2006, 8:05 pm

we know ht has no news and icrag has no news, what about you og? any news from anyone or just gonna bash me some more? im just a nobody that see the whole thing as a big pile of bullshit. ordering seeds or talkin about growin or whatever on the internet has nothin to do with me, so show somethin good from the community huh.

me

Feb 14 2006, 8:03 pm

and im far from unhappy, im very amused actually, cause i have nothing to do with any of your entire community, im nobody. but seeing the way you all react and go after one another and just drag each other thru the mud, when your all the same community. im sure the govt, and the rest of the adults that read this find it just as amusing. its this type of shit that perpetuates the entire stoner persona to begin with, so keep bashin me if thats all you got.

me

Feb 14 2006, 8:00 pm

and thats the news from team OG, and exactly what we expected.

Team Overgrow

Feb 14 2006, 7:57 pm

gee "me"..I wonder why your posts get deleted?

you seem unhappy "me" put down that mouse....step away from your PC then go outside and get some sun and exercise...get a life

me

Feb 14 2006, 7:53 pm

hahaha go to icrag for info?? thats a joke, if its not ass kissing for gypsy it gets deleted, anyone with a differeing opinion, banned. theres no info at icrag worth seein. same as here, if its not kissin hts ass, it gets deleted, just like this will in about 5 seconds

me

Feb 14 2006, 7:44 pm

gypsys latest is there may not be any news until april but keep your heads up and buy lots of seeds until then. so thats HIGH TIMES official position as well surely.

Team Overgrow

Feb 14 2006, 7:44 pm

JJscorpio - you wouldn't happen to run a cannabis seed selling site would you?.....lol....stop spreading negative vibes, exaggerations and untruths you jealous little person...wait until the facts of the case have been released (ok, now JJ go to icmag.com again and see what else you can gather and twist! sheeesh!)

Mark Emery - what a joke ...the Prince of $500 strains (ten seeds per pack!)..his site has ran 3 different versions of the story that I've read ..perhaps there were more?? (all of which were assumptions, fairy tales or lies from taken from posts on icmag.com)..RC is busted , RC has taken the money and ran and RC is co-operating with the cops!


The fact of the matter is that Overgrow, Heaven's Stairway, EuroHemp and Cannibis world sites are shut down....anything else is guesswork, spite, jealousy, assumptions and other seed biz bullsh*t...

If you have had Heaven's Stairways seeds sent to an address where you grow or have unfortunately left addresses or photos on Overgrow or Cannabis World then it might be a good idea to "clean the house"

for updates see www .icmag.com....go to the Overgrow forum and read the latest news ( what little there substaniated news there is)

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 6:17 pm

The bottom line is Gypsy Nirvana needs to show some kind of proof for the panic he has caused or admit that he is a piece of garbage for trying to pull a scam to sell his patented "donated seeds".
Him offering to donate 155,000 dollars should show what this really is. He used the Tsunami victims for "seed donations" to put a pile of cash in his pocket. That in itself justifies the word scumbag. Who's to say that this isnt another one? The US and Canadian Governments must love him as the posterboy for the legalization effort....

Zac

Feb 14 2006, 5:48 pm

Well-written. What is the author's name?

their story

Feb 14 2006, 5:23 pm

their story is to watch fox news and quote marc emery, thats their story. the only story theyve had in a week. sounds just like gypsy.

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 5:19 pm

Is High Times planning a story on this or taking a stance of what might be happening? I also havent heard what Emery is saying lately...

lucky 7

Feb 14 2006, 3:31 pm

where's the love now that overgrow has sunk? Moongoose says RC is a rat. much grinding of teeth, etc. watch yer back fellas!!

get a life

Feb 14 2006, 3:22 pm

John get a life, stop hoarding seeds you'll never pop and post your trolling BS elsewhere...

me

Feb 14 2006, 3:19 pm

uh oh VVVVV a real question, whats HT gonna say to that?

real news?

Feb 14 2006, 3:17 pm

yeah, stfu me, what about real news from high times?

me

Feb 14 2006, 3:16 pm

hmm still nothin new from high times for news? in a week now? ooh forgot about the prince and the white houses new drug ads? is this all you guys can do, get your news from fox and censor people on your website? gonna do some work an get some news one of thses days?

me

Feb 14 2006, 3:12 pm

hahaha

ME

Feb 14 2006, 3:01 pm

THATS WHY THEY CANT GET/WONT PRINT ANY NEWS THEY GET. THEY ARE IN WITH GYPSY. I KNOW THIS ONES GONNA BE GONE IN A SEC SO HERES ANOTHER CLICK. CENSOR ME NOW BITCHES.

thanks!

Feb 14 2006, 3:01 pm

Keep it up chump. We're working on a record day. We just might have to raise ad rates! LOL!

Oh and keep pretending like you know what you're talking about. We're getting quite a laugh out of your idiocy.

p.s. Your apartment smells like ass. Please have it fumigated.

me

Feb 14 2006, 3:00 pm

now CENSOR this one...HIGH TIMES IS JUST AS DOWN WITH GYPSY AND ALL THOSE FOOLS, THEYRE COVERING JUST AS MUCH CAUSE THEYRE GONNA BENEFIT LATER WHEN GYPSY AND HIS MINNIONS DECIDE TO TAKE OVER HIGH TIMES IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN YOU SHEEEEEP FORGET ALL ABOUT IT.

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 3:00 pm

Why does this have to be HIGH TIMES VS MARK EMERY VS GN VS ANYONE ELSE? Right now people need to focus on where this story started and nothing else. Isnt that what is truly important? If we want facts then we must decide first whether this is anything more then consoladating servers and somone trying to make cash at others pain and paranoia. If there has been no arrest, it should be obvious what the answer is. Lets just get the scammer to admit he knows nothing of any arrest...

me

Feb 14 2006, 2:58 pm

hahahaha yeah uh huh sure ive bought your fake pot uh huh howd ya know? id sell bitches like fake pot. you dont have a clue. so if my few clicks today help ya that much, here ya go have another.

lol

Feb 14 2006, 2:55 pm

you may not buy anything here (although you obviously bought some fake pot at some point). It's the traffic that drives the site and you drive the traffic fool. Keep it up!!! We love it!

niemand

Feb 14 2006, 2:54 pm

dude, lose some weight and maybe you wouldn't have so much health issues. Plus stop smoking that downtown brown and step up to some kind. It just might make you kinder.

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 2:52 pm

I for one would love to see some investigative reporting on this whole ordeal. GN never should have stated he spoke with RC. I for one dont think he ever did. He knew he could pull all the people to his site by doing so. He will come out of this badly if some smuck doesnt get arrested by April, lol. He will officially be RC. Take the time and check Canadian Law and you will see that an Arraignment has to take place within 24 hrs, and the arrest is public knowledge. The only people left at International Censorship mag are the angry people asking for answers and the fools who are trying to pocket cash from this. If this continues, GN had better bring plenty of guards to the cup as there are a lot of people looking to set him straight for what he has done. And it isnt going to get any better....

me

Feb 14 2006, 2:50 pm

hahahahaa me clickin on your site makes that big of a dif in your wallet, thats sad, cause i wouldnt ever buy shit from here

fatass niemand

Feb 14 2006, 2:50 pm

Your one-man crusade against HT has backfired once again. May your physical troubles continue to plague you.

me

Feb 14 2006, 2:49 pm

hahahaaha yeah thats it youre right. hahaha HT IS CENSORSHIP.

we will ...

Feb 14 2006, 2:49 pm

censor the shit out of your gibberish buddy. Keep up the refreshing and clicking on our site. It helps our bottom liine and we're laughing all the way to the bank.

ME

Feb 14 2006, 2:48 pm

whats HT soo affraid of that they dont want people to see? like i said, CENSORSHIP IS OK AT HIGH TIMES, ITS POLICY. NICE ATTITUDE.

bears repeating

Feb 14 2006, 2:48 pm

YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU LIKE HERE AS LONG AS HIGH TIMES SAYS ITS OK.

That's the way private websites work. Try to go on someone's forum and badmouth them - see how long it lasts. It's not about "free speech", it's about what we choose to tolerate on our site troll.

Go back to giving people crappy grow advice and hoarding seeds you'll never pop.

ME

Feb 14 2006, 2:46 pm

DELETED AGAIN. DOES HIGH TIMES NOT WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IT CENSORS WHAT THEY SAY??? WHATS THE BIG DEAL HIGH TIMES??

This whole story is spec.

Feb 14 2006, 2:40 pm

>> AS LONG AS HIGH TIMES SAYS ITS OK

Yea, that is how things work on a private website. "Freedom of Speech" prevents the government from censoring news media. It doesn't say that you are allowed to bitch however you want on someone's private property.

me

Feb 14 2006, 2:37 pm

hahaha they even deleted my last post hahaha bitches, like i said before...
YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU LIKE HERE AS LONG AS HIGH TIMES SAYS ITS OK.

dontworryaboutit

Feb 14 2006, 2:32 pm

on the/this web site...

dontworryaboutit

Feb 14 2006, 2:18 pm

HTs recnet exclusive heavy hitters article is being referenced..

huh

Feb 14 2006, 2:15 pm

whats's a number 11?

dontworryaboutit

Feb 14 2006, 2:11 pm

or to get him to light up and come over here, slip into that eleven spot HT..?

dontworryaboutit

Feb 14 2006, 2:04 pm

HT, just slip a number eleven as emery to try and smooth out things..?

dontworryaboutit

Feb 14 2006, 1:59 pm

i thought emery defends his integrity convincingly. then he went after HT and of course they/we have that major players top ten sitting at this site here to defend us?

JFG

Feb 14 2006, 1:54 pm

Online is never 100% safe because the government spies agencies can look at us without warrants and havebeen for along time.
People who ordered from Marc Emery and were on his forums were logged by the DEA--- and Emeryhimself admits that many people who ordered seeds from him are at risk or already got busted because the DEA was logging their orders and watching the Cannabis Culture website. Emery has no hesitations to nark people out. He narked out Reeferman,Steve Kubby,Chris Bennett, Rene Bojee, Breeder Steve, Steve Tuck and bunches of other people in his formus,, and now has posted RC's name and phone number and is stirring sh*t as usual for his own warped desires.Sure it's probably true that Nirvanaisn't trustworthy either,but Emery has a long history of endangering people and if theres one website I would NOT be logged onto it's Cannabis Culture. All you people dissing High Times oughta realize it's the only magazinestanding for us these many years. Bottom line is, be safe and start over again, don't let people like Emery,Nirvana or DEA scare you frombeing free!!

dontworryaboutit

Feb 14 2006, 1:54 pm

im tracking this stuff in my own methods but for me id say the main plot/players are entertaining (as far as increased action for their sites etc. etc.) id say emery did very well over at his site until he offened HT then a little more "power" shifted to over here, is my take now etc. etc.

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 1:47 pm

I wonder which one of these guys is Nirvana. This is why we never get to the truth. See how much they are laughing when they cant find a bag, lol.....Why dont you guys go over to International Censorship Rag and ask the horse where he got his facts from. While you are there order a pack of those shitty beans he " donated ", lol..

me

Feb 14 2006, 1:34 pm

and i know that last comment will be deleted so here it is again
ITS NOT ABOUT TRUTH ANYMORE, ITS ONLY ABOUT WHAT HIGH TIMES WANTS YOU TO HEAR.

hahahaha

Feb 14 2006, 1:34 pm

John you are so funny.

me

Feb 14 2006, 1:33 pm

this isnt about the truth anymore, its only about what can make high times look good. they dont need the truth they can just report what they want

how does it feel

Feb 14 2006, 1:33 pm

how does it feel to truly be the definition of a troll "truth fraud"? You are so see-through - posting liek you're a bunch of people when you're just one disgruntled fat guy. You are the pot equivalent of the comic book guy from the simpsons. Nice life!!!!

me

Feb 14 2006, 1:31 pm

so yeah keep it up admin, keep deletin me, let the people see how things really are. if what i was sayin wasnt at least close to bein true, HIGH TIMES wouldnt be running from ME. so keep deletin what i say and keep your lil gypsy lovers.

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 1:28 pm

Admin, Would it be possible for you guys to ask a lawyer if this can be possible? If it comes from you guys, people will start taking a better look.....thx...Glad your buisness is up....

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 1:25 pm

Trolls and cops everywhere. I am going back to planet Ganga. If anyone is confused if it is really me speaking come there and I will verify it. I guess Gypsy is afraid to get on here under his own name.....

admin

Feb 14 2006, 1:25 pm

free speech doesn't apply to inflamatory trolling here. You can post your tripe elsewhere freely but we are admin here and what we say goes. I'm having fun deleting your posts though "truth squad" and like I said you're doing wonders for our traffic and advertisers.

me

Feb 14 2006, 1:24 pm

no its cool, HT will get the news as soon as they see it on FOX then they can report it as true, til then think what they think or dont say a word

**

Feb 14 2006, 1:23 pm

right on, ME

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 1:22 pm

HT ADMIN, I have to disagree with you on that one. Gypsy quoted as saying he has spoken with RC personally on many occassions. I believe that to not be true if they are now looking for answers....

me

Feb 14 2006, 1:21 pm

so much for free speech, say what you want as long as HT says its OK hahahaa

me

Feb 14 2006, 1:20 pm

yep delete me again

fizzle

Feb 14 2006, 1:20 pm

you don't know what happened at og so you don't know if its crazy or not.

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 1:19 pm

HT ADMIN, thx for deleting the fraudulent post of someone pretending to be me. I will contact you directly if I change my position so if anyone posts pretending to be me, feel free to bin them also.......

NYC

Feb 14 2006, 1:19 pm

After what happened at OG, nothing could be crazier

fizzle

Feb 14 2006, 1:19 pm

if you tore down a grow because of this BS, then you shouldn't be growing in the first place. Give it up and try something with no risks.

admin

Feb 14 2006, 1:17 pm

we're doing everything we can to find out the truth. Posting crazy theories on here is not helping. Gypsy and Old Pink want answers just like we do. We are all not as rash as you and are seeking facts and not speculation.

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 1:15 pm

I did not write to boycott hightimes. And any other replies under my name other then confronting Gypsy Nirvana are not from me.....

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 1:14 pm

Nirvana just posted a reply in a demand for answers. He is telling people to do what they have to to be safe again. Ignore his fat ass. Dont tear down without proof. Someone needs to take that fat ass by the face. In a month you wont find a bag. The DEA thanks you Gypsy. HT, you need to take a stand on this and stop it if you can. Make a call to a Canadian Lawyer and ask them if this arrest could be kept quiet. They will tell you no. Can you guys at least do that?

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 1:02 pm

This jam him and her isnt going to get to the bottom of this. Nirvana needs to back up the claims he has made. Do some of you guys understand the damage he has done? And it is getting worse by the days. The price of a bag will double in a month and that needs to stop now. Go to the source of this and demand an answer or boycott the lyin ass. As I see it he has never cared about the cause. Just his own fat ass. Now he has that self admitted Wefare grower HempKat peddling his wares for him. Again I ask, go to Gypsy Nirvana and demand answers or redicule him back to the DEA payroll..

HT admin

Feb 14 2006, 12:53 pm

we reserve the right to delete comments posted here for any reason. Thanks for adding to our web traffic though. It's been a record month.

Baghdadlianianalia

Feb 14 2006, 12:50 pm

HT admin- thanks for deleting my post and tacitly confirming the substance.

Paranoid-Watcher

Feb 14 2006, 12:41 pm

everyone from OG has moved to Ganja World =) also check out hg420
don't trust gypsys site for sure. surround yourself with the best growers and you'll learn the best techniques.
that being said stay away from Marc's sight as well

HT admin

Feb 14 2006, 12:22 pm

inflammatory posts will be deleted.

ganja gangster

Feb 14 2006, 12:08 pm

You know theres other websites saying the same shit nyc wrote, I think it was either planet ganja or ganja world can't remember which one it was. Feel sorry for the subscribers and emailers

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 11:47 am

When this entire thing went down, I said to my wife "you watch and see how long it is before Gypsy Nirvana donates seeds and says it is for lawyers for rc" three days later, there it was. He doesnt have 155,000 dollars, but yet he is going to give it to his competition, lol. Now comes the big story of no news until April, lol. He is nothing but an oppurtunistic liar. I have heard many threats against him and if I were him I would stay low. The DEA should pay him a great deal of many for the damage he has done. Only a fool would buy seeds from him or seed boutique again....

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 11:26 am

I forgot another fact. Gypsy Nirvana deleted thousands of posts of people questioning him and cut off everyones ability to post again. Do not buy any seeds from him until he gives proof.....

JJScorpio

Feb 14 2006, 11:22 am

Why is it so hard for HT to hire a Lawyer to look into this. I did this and nothing was found. Heres the facts that we know for sure. 1. GN reported that RC had been arrested and there has been no proof whatsoever. 2. Gypsy Nirvana has " donated " 155,000 worth of seeds for a defense fund that has no arrest, the same thing he did for the Tsunami victims, that never got the money. 3. This false report caused hundreds of people to tear down and hundreds more not to grow. Something even the DEA couldnt do. Someone needs to call a lawyer now and report this fraud and put him where he belongs........

This whole story is spec.

Feb 14 2006, 11:14 am

Getting involved with someone who stole Overgrow in the first place was probably a bad idea. Didn't you notice the website was never once updated with new content, stories, or features?

HT admin

Feb 14 2006, 11:03 am

Alot of calls have come in to High Times to find out the truth about this situation. We are frantically working on finding the truth but we will not post anything that amounts to only speculation (and we especially will not post anyone's private info without their permission).

The truth is, we're working on a story that will have answers to these questions and we refuse to put out info that may not be correct or helpful in this trying time. Old Pink and the rest of the OG mods have all of our best interests in mind and are working hard to find out what they can. Believe me when I tell you that Old Pink is a trustworthy person and working to find the truth.

Yes, High Times was an advertiser and sponsor on OG (along with many others) and yes, we had a forum of our own on OG for High Times related events and information but we were never a paying sponsor or involved financially with OG. No money was ever exchanged between us and OG and our agreement was strictly a two-way street. Banners exchanged between the sites and info and pics from willing OG members printed on our OG page in the magazine. I post this to clear up misinformation stated elsewhere that we are somehow "The Sponsor" of overgrow. Posts like that imply that we're involved and not saying anything which is furthest from the truth. We are simply waiting for the pertinent facts before we disperse information that could be false and damaging to other members of the cannabis community. There is no coverup - there's only a desire for facts and facts have been hard to come by so far.

In this messed up time, let's focus on finding out the truth and let's try to avoid situations where rampant speculation leads people down slippery slopes of logic.

huh bongblaster?

Feb 14 2006, 10:38 am

I've known the real bongblaster quite well and I've never heard an anti-semitic word from him once. Did you get beat down by some bad ass accountants or what?

S2

Feb 14 2006, 9:16 am

NO one is responsible for the "panic" and speculation except RC. Whether he was busted or jsut walked away from the business, he really flipped off everyone who made him his money by not providing any information-- to blame Marc or Gypsy for speculating based on what they can find out is just plain ignorant-- RC is the responsible party-- no one else

showmeglass

Feb 14 2006, 8:46 am

For those of you that enjoyed checking out all the glass work om og,i am starting a new thread for it at planet ganja.com under the og thread.If you have some pics to post feel fre to do so.Not sure if they will leave the thread up or not.

Ben Busted

Feb 14 2006, 4:43 am

Green Shaman and the rest of the OG MOds have no where to go.. so if you have a home for there sad warped power mad egos please let us know

sethujuana

Feb 14 2006, 3:49 am

overgrow was a friggin' great forums. whatver happen to them, that's bad.

i laught to see nark emery spoutin off aboutit though. that dude knew he was bein watched by dea and still he was selling buds with his butt buddy and askin everybody to order seeds from him an the dea intercept a bunch of the seed orders, so what a hippocrit that he now is slagging overgrow. and all his little suckers at cc, they are just boughtinto his cult of personality, it makes me sick!

R.T. in W.V.

Feb 14 2006, 12:06 am

Seeking Bobby Fisher.

JJScorpio

Feb 13 2006, 11:51 pm

To add a bit more I am also upset that Gypsy Nirvana erased thousands of posts because they point the finger at him for some of this. Im also upset with people that " donate their own products for sale " and then dont send the money where it was supposed to go. When asked about the Tsunami money he says "I had forgotten about it, thx for reminding me" and then claims it was a measly 1200 dollars. People need to understand that seed dealers have nothing to gain from pot becoming legal. It sure seems that way this time....

JJScorpio

Feb 13 2006, 11:44 pm

Lowtimer, Im not same person that had 2600 posts at OG. Because of what I do for employment I am drawn tohelp uncover something that stinks because of things I have to use. I feel pissed and used because of what has happened. I have watched many friends tear down and become nervous wrecks. People need to understand that this affects people at home to. What kind of parent is someone when they are scared to death. It is feeling more like this was a ruse to make money with every day that goes by. The comments made by Gypsy Nirvana caused a panic wide spread. If it was necessary, fine. If not I plan to stick around and make sure the truth is known. It is hard to stomach that " one of us " could intentionally be involved with this. Trust me when I say I am not Mark Emery, lol, or any other famous person within the cause. Im just someone who happens to care dearly for being set back and embarrassed the way we have been.....

Lowtimer

Feb 13 2006, 11:12 pm

Fat trees: you're right.
I've been trying to decode this whole mess too much. THanks for the reality touch. The problem is more important than the puzzle Just want to know if this increases people's chances of door kicks, you know? You are right though.

BongBlaster: I'm not a fan at all of the whole anti hebrew movement. That said, the idea of the whole scene being a massive cointelpro is worth considering in all seriousness.

JJScorpio: I probably bumped into you under my OG nick (avoiding like the plague currently, sure you understand), but its been good Rattlin high times' chain with you (just makes me wonder who's holding the other end of that chain these days?)

See you guys, based on the signs, I'm going underground to the next town.

smoky Mc pot head

Feb 13 2006, 11:00 pm

Now i can't fucking spell man im getting stupider

smoky Mc pot head

Feb 13 2006, 10:59 pm

Mna i agree with that one dude everone says im crazy 4 being an anarchist.FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!

smoky Mc pot head

Feb 13 2006, 10:48 pm

that site going off the net is bull sh*t man.and do u consuder that swearing because i blocked out the i in sh*t

Baghdadlianianalia

Feb 13 2006, 10:13 pm

Yup... Lawyers' offices on the 4th floor. There's no listing for a lawyer of that name anywhere in Canada however...

soul coughing

Feb 13 2006, 9:53 pm

batch? or nest...?

lowtimer

Feb 13 2006, 9:35 pm

they might be tied to ha-legal.com a romanian based law firm. Heard rumors that RC was eastern european (marc E). Disinformation, misinformation or just information? Wish I was a journalist that knew what the hell I was doing.

DEAS mom

Feb 13 2006, 9:26 pm

I should have swollowed you!!!

LOVE MOM

JJScorpio

Feb 13 2006, 9:02 pm

Thx for the effort. It is really appreciated but that will not do any good. He can not comment on anything under lawyer/client condidetiality. A lot of us have checked a lot of Court Documents and cant so much as come up with anyone arrested for a seed offense in any Courts. GN proudly stated that he had spoken to RC but he changed his warnings a few days later when ME wrote the story of RC cooperating with authorities.I hope no one bought any seeds from him if it turns out the way it looks. OP made some silly post that it could take weeks or more for the Courts to let out the info. I feel sorry for the guy that gets busted 2 weeks from today for seeds. They will be telling us he is RC, lol...

JJScorpio

Feb 13 2006, 8:36 pm

Good post Lowtimer. The longer this speculation lasts, the more people are going to become paranoid and tear down. Someone from a major site needs to spend 100 dollars and talk to an Attorney for a half hour. They could then print possible scenarios based on some type of fact.It needed to be done last week....

JJScorpio

Feb 13 2006, 8:31 pm

It was a sad day to be an OG member when this happened. This would have simply been assumed to be a server/RC problem had Gypsy not stated that he had talked to RC and acted like he had first hand news of an arrest and that members safety had been compromised. He should have left it alone. Instead hundreds of people tore down, and hundreds didnt start there next grow. It will be a long time until we know the actual numbers. I will say that last week I spoke to two different Attorneys and both stated they can see no possible way that there was a seed arrest in that Jurisdictional area. It would become public knowledge. I dont expect anyone to take that as gospel though. Its the different stories coming from him that led to the further confusion. I do know he is upsetting a lot of individuals with his censorship on his site...

Lowtimer

Feb 13 2006, 8:30 pm

Admin: I know you're just some person doing their job and what you say gets dictated, just please help get this passed up the line.

lowtimer

Feb 13 2006, 8:28 pm

Sorry to roast you guys on this High Times, but you deserve to get roasted on this. First you post the Marc Emery version of the story, attributing it to cc, but never mentioning that cc = marc emery = overgrow's arch nemesis in the seed biz/online cannabis information market. Then you slide to the version held by anonymous people claiming to be refugee mods from overgrow (old pink currently holding sway at icmag being the main guy I'm talking about). Maybe we're asking a bit much, but shit, even if RC can't talk or release statements, how the hell couldn't his lawyer? High Times releasing the name of his lawyer would go a long long way towards doing their job. This is your beat. You guys probably won't get a watergate. You guys got this. WHoever puts a legitimate cap on this story gets a big feather in their cap for unfreaking out alot of people (or for cuing them to tear down before the other shoe drops). Everybody that sat on their hands will get crucified and spend the next several years fighting accusations of complicity with the dea/rcmp at worst and covering their own asses at the expense of their own community at best. I'm not just bashing to be bashing, I'm damn near begging.

me

Feb 13 2006, 7:42 pm

you guys got it right on the head, of all people close enough to actually get some real info, it wouldve been high times. let alone have they done any actual research on their own. the comments on Gypsy seem to ring true all over as well. so like was said, HT not comin up with anything at all then sayin well we dont know so we cant comment. thats the same shit RC, Gypsy, OP and DG and all the other mods out there did when OG when down. with HT havin the same reaction, i dont feel id trust their news anymore either, theyve shown they cant get any news...

Baghdadlianianalia

Feb 13 2006, 6:57 pm

HT remember were- are?- commercially affiliated with with overgrow.com. They look perfectly positioned as the closest quasi-journalistic entity to shed light on what has happened.

Has HT done any original research on the issue at all? Made requests for court records or any public documents? Talked to a Canadian attorney to get an assessment of what a lack of public records might plausibly mean?

Seems running third hand heresay culled from internet BBs is as close as they've dared.

HT Admin

Feb 13 2006, 6:54 pm

I will not comment on anything on which I do not know the facts.

I would rather not speculate on such important matters.

We will post any facts which we uncover as they become available to us.

$$$SORO$$$

Feb 13 2006, 6:49 pm

Oh man :'( my life is over without overgrow. FUCKKKK THE POLICEEEEEEEE GRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Oh well the weed gets grown all the same they can try but they'll never stop it.

lowtimer

Feb 13 2006, 6:32 pm

So, we know HT admins are reading, just chosing not to comment on the situation. That kinda makes it worse IMHO.

JJScorpio

Feb 13 2006, 6:14 pm

Gypsy Nirvana took down more personal grows with his false information in the coarse of a week then the DEA could have ever done. But what the hell, when people find out it was all a hoax they will need seeds wont they?

JJScorpio

Feb 13 2006, 6:11 pm

I have spent a great deal of time and resources trying to get information pertaining to this. Yesterday I spoke with GN through private message and told him that my conclusion in this was there was no arrest and he had used this to do another of his patented " seed donations ", like he conned people with the Tsunami relief. I told him if he did not supply the name of the Court RC was arraigned in I would print this. I was immediatel relieved of my ability to post, and all posts were deleted. In my opinion, anyone that buys seeds from this man is no better then the panic he caused...

HT Admin

Feb 13 2006, 6:10 pm

We're not running from shit.

Come by and visit us:
419 Park Ave. South
16th Floor
New York, NY 10016

Bring your snow shoes - we got 29 inches this weekend.

yep

Feb 13 2006, 5:23 pm

thats cause podcasting from a remote hole in the ground is all they apparently can do now. im bettin they get caught up in teh whole seed biz bust fiasco goin on. they were in with RC/OG and they provide a source for people to order illegal seeds. with that and who knows what info was gathered from canadian busts to possibly link them even closer. and all that and they still havent even done the regular news in days, let alone any kind of info on anything else, i say theyre on the run with/like RC is

me

Feb 13 2006, 4:10 pm

because doesnt HIGH TIMES take lots an lots of advertising money from seed sellers. with all teh busts lately it wouldnt be too far fetched to think maybe there was some link found between seed sellers that were busted and their suppliers that may have been busted that could also be linked to high times ads. i mean if you read high times you can use their mag to order seeds from people that pay them. and with just that outside opinion, if any evidence at all was found that could lead to investigations at high times? their kinda a middle man no? DEA finally decide to shut em down??

again

Feb 13 2006, 3:58 pm

if HIGH TIMES EMPLOYEES are not running and hiding, where is the news, any news on anything, did the whole staff just forget to work???

madbluntz

Feb 13 2006, 3:54 pm

DEA- why do you feel you need to come on a public site and rant like that? if you were any kind of a professional you would act it. the use for your neglect to accept the fact that north america is a democracy scares me. how ever im not surprized you consider your self the authority when really you are less then a minority. DEA or not you have no write to talk to people in the state you did now on behalf of all growers FUCK YOU!

me

Feb 13 2006, 3:48 pm

high times is in with RC and prob shittin themselves now too, theyre prob tryin to figure what planet they can run an hide at. we know they arent running this magazine anymore...

J Q Public

Feb 13 2006, 3:45 pm

The thread degenerates... no High Times news postings for almost 4 days now, when there hasn't been a day missed where news was posted for months and months. And I don't just mean this topic, any topic under the High Times News section of this website. I must say, something smells fishy.

However, if the DEA/RCMP or other LEO was intent on using the Overgrow database as a roadmap for grow busts, why would they take it down? Wouldn't it make more sense that they leave it online until they actually started busting people so as not to arouse suspicions?

BUKKAKE BOB

Feb 13 2006, 2:26 pm

Word!

please

Feb 13 2006, 12:20 pm

all the lil kids and still no newsworthy update from HIGH TIMES? does anyone still work for high times? besides the police? any word high times or are you guys all hangin out with RC????

DEA AGENT

Feb 13 2006, 10:50 am

COPY THAT.

FATTY & POOR HIGH TIMES

Feb 13 2006, 10:50 am

I Know you all, you're the guys who are conjoined twins, right! Poor HT guys dick is conjoined with fatty's FATTASS!! You two guys should go on Ripley's Believe It or Not!!

You guys are just a waste of space!
Get the fuck off the internet before I sick the DEA agent on you. DEA agent, if you see this, please take care of these idiots.

THE MANY FACES OF CHE

Feb 13 2006, 10:03 am

There are many things CHE can stand for:
DOU-CHE
CHE-CHE'S
DICK CHE-NEY
DOU-CHE
DOU-CHE
DOU-CHE

Bongblaster

Feb 13 2006, 8:14 am

If you have had dealings with the "Cannabis Community" websites that just went down, or Marc "the nark" Emery, don't get paranoid. It's not about busting people.

It's about the CIA engineering society with fake-opposition groups.

But I can't back that up, it's just my opium...


B R E A K I N G ! ! H O T O F F T H E W I R E ! !

THIS JUST CAME IN:

Urgent important update:

http://hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=427&aid=5
Alias on Sat 11, Feb 2006 19:11
RC is an alias - I don't think his real name is public knowledge - it's pretty hard to dig up facts from the legal system without a real name to work with.
..........................................................................................

NOW we know:
We still do not know what "Richard Calrisian's" real name is
which prevents futher research on the matter. Let's just start to forget about it.

.........
More updates will be posted as new information becomes available.

Soul Brother #1

Feb 13 2006, 3:03 am

you are welcome..

Soul Brother #1

Feb 13 2006, 2:43 am

Agent Smith... I agree with what you are saying about Gypsie!! I ordered some Ducksfoot from him and got some tampered with crap with the label cut off and another one added.. I do believe it is ducksfoot but a cross of some kind.. Not what I wanted!!
Besides I.C. like most forums is just a bunch of people who think that just because they grew some weed that they tell everybody else how to do it.. Truth is its easy to grow and with some good genetics your smoke will be as good as any!!

Soul Brother #1

Feb 13 2006, 2:37 am

Go ahead moron.... Just make it easy on them and go ahead and write all your pertinent information on a piece of paper and just mail it to the D.E.A...
Plus, I am not saying the guy that got busted is or was having anything to do with the police.. Only now I do believe that the police are watching anything about that site and more than likely will get envolved with whatever little support group you guys set up for yourselves.. I am all for growing and smoking weed, I just think you people are gonna have a hard time doing it from inside a 6' by 9' cell!!
Go ahead and play around with your freedom, I allways love to laugh when stupid people get involved with marijuana!! I like reading the funny stories here about idiots speeding with weed or trying to drive up 100lbs with a headlight out.. just gives me something to read while smoking a fatty.. Good luck with bubba and I hope you are accepted into the woodpile without having to blow everybody in the jail!!

Soul Brother #1

Feb 13 2006, 1:11 am

If you people are stupid enough to click on any site or check out anything to do with O.G. and have your hand in any kind of "wrong doing" then you are an idiot!!
Why not just put a sign up saying come and register at the police station, You can just go there any time you want to check shit out on the web!!

zeffer

Feb 12 2006, 11:18 pm

I'll have some of whatever King Angus is smokin.....

Nape

Feb 12 2006, 10:44 pm

You can actually win a volcano on that site just for referring people I guess

Underground Society

Feb 12 2006, 10:44 pm

Hey Guys,
Check out these new forums for ex-overgrow nuts like myself!

http://www.undergroundsocietyonline.com

lowtimer

Feb 12 2006, 9:36 pm

for those keeping score, Cannabis Culture is ran by Marc Emery. Marc apparently hates RC (whoever the hell RC is). Marc's been throwing around such explanations as
1: RC took the money and ran
2: RC Got busted and turned informant
3: RC got busted and had kept detailed records on all customers and associates which are now in police hands
4: RC isn't half the pot activist Marc is because Marc told everyone what was going on when he got arrested and noone has gotten busted as a result of Marc's arrest. (Marc's pushing the rumors that HS and CBay guys are going down all over the place)

Just so you know who you're getting your news from.

devious

Feb 12 2006, 8:25 pm

read this site it has the only real update to the situation http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4638.html
the servers for the site are infact still up and responding theyre just not hosting the pages any longer.

lowtimer

Feb 12 2006, 6:21 pm

we don't know anyone even was arrested.

Bongblaster

Feb 12 2006, 6:17 pm

IMPORTANT BREAKING UPDATE ON RICHARD CALRISIAN ARREST

Update:

We still do not know what "Richard Calrisian's" real name is.

We still do not know why Richard Calrisian was arrested.

We still do not know what the charges are.

We still do not know what jail Richard was placed in.

We still do not know how Richard got out so quick.

We still do not know why Richard voluntarily took down
six websites, the entire electronic cannabis community.

We still do not know why "Richard" and "Calrisian" both
contain the letters: c i a.

.........
More updates will be posted as new information becomes available.

______________________________________________

lowtimer

Feb 12 2006, 6:17 pm

there's lots and lots of talk around about seed banks going down due to RC rolling over. True, false, who knows? Maybe someone with some press credentials like

High Times

could help us out with some verifiable info? (in case anybody's wondering, quoting marc emery or Old pink, or Gypsy nirvana doesn't count as verifiable). Or they can sell some more "barely legal drugs" like wizards mix or some other bullshit.

We just might be in the midst of a massive joint us/can canabis crackdown using ip and sales logs as evidence. This could result in untold busts from commercial to closet growers. Of course, it might be nothing. Of course, High times might be out of the loop and unconcerned as long as they keep bringing in that advertising dollar. Hell, they might even be cooperating themselves. Admins, all you gotta do is step in and step up and defend yourselves, but hell defend some of the rest of us while you're at it? Step up.

low timer

Feb 12 2006, 6:09 pm

icmag.com has a forum for expat ogers. Just so you know going into it, the score over there is anti marc e, pro RC and Overgrow, and old pink and some other overgrow bigwigs are trumpeting the "rc has not narc ed out everyone and has just got busted for selling seeds" along with "RC will be releasing a statement tomorrow" (head that one every day for several days now). I don't know what the hell's going on, thats just the score over there.

420_petchy_420

Feb 12 2006, 6:06 pm

sad to here that OG was shut down... is there anywhere were us OVERGROW MEMBERS can talk about this ?

unrelated

Feb 12 2006, 5:40 pm

totally unrelated news but did anyone hear Di ck Che ney was out hunting with a friend and accidentally shot the guy? just happened yesterday and just came on news a few min ago. hahaha guns dont kill people...but people usin em might hahaha

Green Hit

Feb 12 2006, 5:26 pm

I would find it difficult to believe that Canada is taking it's marching orders from D.C. Overbearing and oppressive laws and practices are simply a natural part of the evolution of ALL gov'ts as they grow not simply in power, but also in the ability to utilize that power in a more invasive, pervasive and autocratic manner.

me

Feb 12 2006, 5:16 pm

we dont really think the USA is directly behind any of it, but the canadian govt certainly is taking on a new personality all its own. that personality very closely resembles that of USA. hence the term Canadian States of America....thats whats comin...

Agent Smith

Feb 12 2006, 1:36 pm

If you post on IC you realy want to go to Planet Ganja right now...get the truth.

Agent Smith

Feb 12 2006, 12:59 pm

More dirts coming out...Gypsy has been selling f-2's and fakes from Seeds direct. Its true! BOG has outted the bastard! Also the charity sales they (Gypsy) ran ...guess who kept the money? Dont deal with that guy. Theres nothing but lies over at IC.

Jake H 420

Feb 12 2006, 12:26 pm

Man fuck america's system the government is taking america over for them selfs i hate government officials the only thing we can do is fight the government

???

Feb 12 2006, 12:18 pm

Is the new canadian Government being run by US policies
hard core now.

truth fraud

Feb 12 2006, 12:06 pm

thanks again truthyness for coming onto ht site. You are helping support high times in ways you don't even know. Thanks!

The Truth

Feb 12 2006, 10:50 am

Cannabis Culture > High Times

Pokin Smot

Feb 12 2006, 10:23 am

And still nothing. Come on hightimes, step up!

GGW

Feb 12 2006, 9:23 am

What a shame that Overgrow is
shutdown.. It came as a shock to me.

I have been testing seeds out for the last few years now and submitting to the strainguide for awhile I like to think that OG has literally taught hundreds of thousands to grow.
It truly is a SHAME all the work that the OG community has contribuited and the people that OG has taught I fear the knowledge will be lost forever.

OG, you will be missed but I'll keep on growing, waiting for this prohibition to finally end.

OVERGROW THE GOVERNMENT! OVERGROW THE WORLD!

overgroooooooooooow noooo

Feb 12 2006, 8:37 am

thats propa gay that OG is down it was great, with its strainguide and worldwide forums. i still got loads of info in my head, and theres loads of seeds about, so the gvmnt cant win coz they cant get it all. its just a wate of their time and money - its like a state ment of their power they cant back dwn.

Underground Society

Feb 12 2006, 6:43 am

Hey Guys, Don't let Overgrow going offline take you away from the internet! We are opening a new Counter-Culture underground community!

http://www.undergroundsocietyonline.com

We will be offering an Underground Television Network and an inclusive community that will leave you entertained for hours!

We will also be giving away a Volcano Vaporizer for free to the person who refers the most friends and family! This contest/promotion will be announced in our contest/promotion section!

http://www.undergroundsocietyonline.com

We are starting slow, but will grow to meet your needs over time!

Hope to see you there!

RC you piece of Shit!

Feb 12 2006, 4:48 am

Fuck You Richard Baghdadlian!
Fucking Rat Bastard!

tom

Feb 12 2006, 2:26 am

ive got a couple dead boddies and a kid in a well in the bacement no need for cops here

anon

Feb 12 2006, 2:16 am

you cant get in trouble for pictures.... there is no proof the pictures are of "your plant" (if you take the right precautions)...


true, there might be some clause in the law that allows them to confinscate your computer (that would suck) so perhaps the solution would be to keep the picutures on a disk so theres nothing illegal on your computer.

whatever. im not worried... ive got nothing at my residence to hide... (no more than the average american).

MR. PARANOID

Feb 12 2006, 1:47 am

If LEO shows up at anybody's door because they traced ips from these web sites all they can do is search your residence. unless you posted a picture with pot and somthing that can be linked back to you, you can claim you were hacked or even that you were a faker on the site, reposting pictures you found on the net for giggles. The main thing you need to do (if you are worried) is keep your ip residence clean for a while and have a well thought out story ready, and stick to it.

anon

Feb 12 2006, 1:13 am

people are different, and will be different for the rest of time. there are too many people in the US (not to mention the WORLD), for there to be a single set of beliefs for everyone to follow.

people who grew up half way around the world from you are waaaaaaay different. just because someone lives in a large communal hut in the jungle, dosent mean they cant learn complex math and ideas just like us "white folk"...we are all the same species and if we cant learn to get along in this age of fiber-optics and nuclear power, then we are doomed as a planet.

me

Feb 11 2006, 11:32 pm

lots of good info floatin around on icmag.com now. sounds like solid info being verified by solid people. seein how big OG was with high times youd think high times would be waaaaay more on top of this then they are. do they have any news?

me

Feb 11 2006, 10:44 pm

can i just say again, sounds alot like were seeing the beginning of the Canadian States of America. and it seems the canadians are gonna let it happen......

me

Feb 11 2006, 10:40 pm

check icmag . com / forums/ talk about it/ OG/CW refugees/ CW members only please read for info. says many reputable canadian growers have been busted and directly related to OG. read it for yourself. any word from high times yet? or they still just a doormat?

lowtimer

Feb 11 2006, 8:52 pm

It would just be nice for

HIGH TIMES

to establish themselves as still relevant to the canabis comunity and not a former banner carrier of the cause thats been relegated to being a novelty act.

Step up, I mean shit, surely somebody in HT is watching these forums right?

dick

Feb 11 2006, 8:44 pm

i loved that website. LONG LIVE OVERGROW!!!!!!!

Agent Smith

Feb 11 2006, 8:13 pm

RC's name is Richard Baghdadlian. Screw that crook...shoulda seen this coming when the whole ~Shabang~ thing happened.

lowtimer

Feb 11 2006, 7:16 pm

like real name outed him

lowtimer

Feb 11 2006, 7:15 pm

Marc outed him on his forums

Alias

Feb 11 2006, 7:11 pm

RC is an alias - I don't think his real name is public knowledge - it's pretty hard to dig up facts from the legal system without a real name to work with.

low timer

Feb 11 2006, 7:05 pm

HIGH TIMES ADMINS:

In all respect, this is a pretty hot topic in the world you operate in. How's about you guys put up an official opinion about whats going on? The Marc E Camp is going head to head with the OverGrow admins all over the boards and nobody and I mean NOBODY is capable of doing any damage control at all. Paranoia is ruling the day and I'm sure the piggies are laughing their asses off at the whole thing. So, please, for your customers and whatever there might be left of the movement these days, put up an opinion, statement, information, anything. Even if you guys don't have anything hard, surely you have an opinon and you must have better contacts than the average joes slamming it out on icmag and ccw forums. Steup up hight times! You've taken enough shit over the years for the fake herbal shit and the commercialization of the cup. Step up. Please step up.

anonymous

Feb 11 2006, 6:27 pm

I just want to remind everyone to be careful with what you read in the media. as much as I hate to say it.. even High Times.. i mean no offence to any HT admin or ANYONE at HT, but you guys are just another media outlet.. you can only give us the infomation on whats out there. Therefore i think its appropriate to read ALL of the information provided and make your decision as to what happend, and if theres not enough info on the subject to dig or wait for more. Thats all i gotta say guys.. but BE SAFE. AND OVERGROW THE GOV. this summer.. plant 30 or 50 seeds EVERYWHERE they cant cut all of them down. PEACE

Fatty!

Feb 11 2006, 6:13 pm

Remember all, HT is a place were we can all come to speak freely! The DEA kids are just that, kids! LOL! To the white power people, well, in th Army we used to say that there is only one color in this world, and that is green!!! This also applies to all that smokes marijuana! LOL!

Legalize!!!!

poor hightimes

Feb 11 2006, 5:57 pm

I feel bad for the writers, editors, photographers etc who work for hightimes magazine. Their board for comments is filled with the worst most disgusting comments on the internet from 12 year olds pretending to be the DEA to disgusting white power nazis. Hey whitepower guys, guess what? I could kick your ass, Im bigger than you and that's the reason you don't dare speak your worthless drible in public but on internet comment boards.

INFO

Feb 11 2006, 3:48 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overgrow_%28website%29

Agent Smith

Feb 11 2006, 3:29 pm

Overgrow and CW were recording IP's for more than a year before the bust.This is a disaster...

nizzodes

Feb 11 2006, 3:12 pm

I LOVE WEED

me

Feb 11 2006, 2:05 pm

so RC got busted 9 months ago? why did that not come up in high times or on the webpage. especially since high times was soo close with OG. ooh wait, OG was close with HIGH TIMES, so if one was screwin someone then for sure the other wouldnt want anyone to know. so was RC busted 9 months ago HIGH TIMES?? that would put loads of credit behind those who think RC might be screwin someone. i mean HIGH TIMES cant get any news on him, did anything really happen? huh high times? wha happened?

i shot the sherrif remix

Feb 11 2006, 1:05 pm

i shot the sherrif, because he touched my marijuana tree ooo ooo oooooooooo
i am the reefer, the goverment cannot get rid of me ooo ooo ooo

HT Subscriber

Feb 11 2006, 11:50 am

I "HOPE" High Times investigates this.
Where is the story in the press. Why is there nothing anywhere?
Even High Times own story mentions nothing about who was the arresting officer? When was the warrant issued? There are no details to this story!
INVESTIGATE!

gfklafja

Feb 11 2006, 11:26 am

WE'RE ALL NARCS!!!!! EVERYONE IS A NARC TO SOMEONE, REGUARDLESS OF WEATHER YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE OR NOT. THE V=CHIP IN EVERYON'ES ASSHOLE IS THE EVIL THAT CONTROLS THE ANIMAL.

Fudmukker

Feb 11 2006, 11:16 am

Bullshite , this is all part of the conservative takeover of the world . I.E. , Kill the messenger !

Dave

Feb 11 2006, 9:45 am

Well look at Marc Emery gloat like a pig in shit about the latest busts.
And spread lies, panic, and misinformation as fast as he can type.

What kind of activist would act like that?

Prince of pot? More like the mayor of rumour town.

I guess he doesn't believe much in Karma.

I just wonder if it is actually Emery that is helping the RCMP with these busts to try to save his ass with some kind of strange deal he made.

vicious

Feb 11 2006, 9:04 am

who cares about your lazy stoner lay about days. We grow for money, and to ruin your lives. Get over it, you get stoned, we get rich. Burn and die happy!

ilize

Feb 11 2006, 6:51 am

but I was off the subject, it seems bad, but all those sites were just making money. What r y gonna do be biast and only go after the growers off cyber-space. Y go after the 14 yr old and the old man and the little girl and try to protect yrselves, adults

knuckels

Feb 11 2006, 5:43 am

how? what did you smoke it all? stoner

MR. PARANOID

Feb 11 2006, 5:36 am

Obviously the people who have the most to worry about are the seed dealers and big grow operations that posted pics from their own ip address. all the guys that posted pics of their closet grows are probably too small to bother with tracing ips, snooping and getting a warrant on the hopes of finding less than 5-10 plants. However I for one have prepared in case I am wrong.....

Agent Smith

Feb 11 2006, 1:26 am

Some of the seed dealers that delt with RC are gettin busted. There is evidence that RC was arrested 9 months ago, and may have been cooperating with the police for as long. Looks like a lot of North American breeders are goin away...

Napier

Feb 10 2006, 10:10 pm

http://www.undergroundmarket.net/forums/

^ The pre-mature forums for a new overgrow type forums...

It will soon be

The Underground Society Network

Feel free to check her out and sign up before we officially launch!

me

Feb 10 2006, 9:19 pm

Legends Seeds website is down, isnt he in canada, did they get him?

daf365

Feb 10 2006, 9:00 pm

The spanish dude is just saying it is messed up the way they treat bud, hes not talkin stuff

anon

Feb 10 2006, 8:27 pm

dude if i saw a "minute man" or whatever the fuck they are, i would be up in their face in a second. they dont know who's pictures their taking (when they sit outside home depot or wherever) and snap photos of "browns" as they call em.

also....WHAT ARE YOU, GARDENERS, FARM HANDS?!?! i dont know one person whos job has been taken by an illegal alien. the only place i see them in high concentrations is LOW WAGE JOBS...under the table stuff, that no spoiled americans would consider doin ( 4 dollars an hour for hard hot work in a field), but thats twice what theyd get in mexico or central america for the same damn work.

the only problem i see with illegal immegrants is that, YES: they are sending more and more money OUT of the economy to their families in other countries. right now, im really high (ive been cuttin back and i just blazed a joint) so i dont want to lengthen this message right now by going into the different ways we could stop currency from leaving this country (tho perhaps i will later on), im waaaaay to stoned and it would kill a great buzz i got goin....so later on guy...and definitly BLAZE IT ;)

anon

Feb 10 2006, 7:50 pm

you religious extremists and racists are the ones who make this world unpleasent.

you set the rules 2000+ years back in ancient history, which are still highly ritualized today...

you instigated inqusitions, racial wars, and hate crimes because of stupid boundries.

countless people have died in the name of "allah", "muhammad", "god", "shikaka" (lol, little ace ventura for ya)....

when ever a war, tension, or conflict is fueled by hatred for another religious group, holy land, or race it becomes a matter of humanity. the human race is still young on this planet. 200,000-2000 years old,(which ever you believe)is nothing compared to where the distant future could take the human race..... if we dont learn to start getting along,(all races, creeds and nationalities) then im truely cirtain that one apocolyptic day in the distant future, (1000 years from now) the world will stop.....life will be over because the planet became so vial and hateful that it collapsed under thousands of years of pollution and human hatred towards one another..... perhaps thousands of years later new life would start. after all, earth has all the building blocks for life... not to mention another few million years of the moons effects on our oceans (earths biological and chemical mixing pot)...all it needs to do is purge itself of the filth we humans,(the most "intelligent" beings on this earth)left behind.... perhaps many of you may view me as a hippie or something after reading these...im not; i just have a dreadful feeling where this planet is heading.....

time to blaze ;) PEACE

HT Admin

Feb 10 2006, 6:55 pm

You never heard about that here becasue it never happened.

HT is an interesting place to work, but not that interesting.

i heard

Feb 10 2006, 6:35 pm

and what about the HIGH TIMES EMPLOYEE that was supposedly fired for "snoopin around" or asking too many questions when he asked why another employee was getting phone calls from some govt agency? any of that happen at high times? someone fired for asking questions about employees getting too many phone calls from govt people? just wonderin what the full story is and why i never heard about it here?

Stomper

Feb 10 2006, 5:52 pm

hahaha, there's always some 14 year old punk kid playing DEA agent.
grow up kid, i don't believe in fairy tails.

too fucking obvious.

ilize

Feb 10 2006, 5:48 pm

muhammad is in every man, no one can draw mohammad, just a man of that nature, much less have a law about not doing it, although that is an ideal law, it also deserves following by the letter. How do you protect a man from being drawn. Its all political and over time it creates an image of a people that is has become satirical and mis-concieved by the masses. to draw god- as I said- the woman/or man (reverse) shown byher veil standing eyes encouraging,- smiling, yet still.. holding a bird/ a fish- a law to divide the land. The Isrealis cannot be made subject to a gvmt. that will not recognize them. Who will protect you if yr senate cannot. Bush screwed up oil business, but from the other side of it, you cannot ask to sell an energy you cannot provide for. That is not investment in the future. I dont mean to say its only Bush, but the other side of it, government in all its forms has a hard time w/an expanding people. I don't read over my posts, but over my notes, I discover that every thing I writ has an opposite side so its all wrong, but I try to get you to think so we can try to overcome this war and these sides and the horrible side of the evil of selling war and people's interests to life. and you kow if Muhammad gets misconstrued as a terrorist or turban wearing fanatic of some kind, it creates a poor image for an entire people. And our president doesn't recognize a holy war, much less call it off. All war is one war-neither won or lost- on drugs, terrorist- religious. I only encourage the Hammas because they were unknowwn, but to not recognize a people sounds like a further push to overthrow Isreal by form of govmt. Next you will be among them yrselves. Iranians cannot have nuclear energy w/o a plan where are you gonna store it? someone has to call this war off. see what happens where you store it. the area around it gets cold. yr afraid of the heat-warming, you ought to fear the cold too. as you employ it, life gets shorter

me again

Feb 10 2006, 5:46 pm

canada...hmmm...hows Canadian States of America ring to you guys?

me

Feb 10 2006, 5:45 pm

anyone else here hear anything about big name growers in canada being busted very recently based on 9month on going investigations of OG/CW, by the RCMP, no mention of any US dea people or anything, just canadian growers and RCMP? just lookin for info.

Che

Feb 10 2006, 5:36 pm

Any of u guys that are bitchin in here actually from OG?

Che

Feb 10 2006, 5:35 pm

The grass is green, the sky is blue and the trees are brown.

oh wat did u gys say?

kronin is right

Feb 10 2006, 4:03 pm

Fuck ALL illegal aliens. Learn to fucking speak english you border hopping queer asses. WHITE POWER!!!

Kroninn

Feb 10 2006, 3:59 pm

More AMERICANS should be taking up arms and shooting Illegals that cross the border illegally. YOU want to live in AMERICA? Learn English, become a tax paying citizen.

Kroninn

Feb 10 2006, 3:55 pm

Thankyou MINUTEMEN for all you have done...Fuckin illegalls must go home. SPEAK ENGLISH PUNK!

jumanji

Feb 10 2006, 3:03 pm

Are there any other forums, out there, where the moderator or author is known and trusted (you know what i mean)

Gringo

Feb 10 2006, 2:49 pm

You fucking communist, I'll take you out like Escobar got taken out!

Gringo

Feb 10 2006, 2:47 pm

Canary, Shut your fucking mouth!

canary

Feb 10 2006, 12:54 pm

estos GRINGOS creen que pueden con todo , también con las emociones de miles de cultivadores del mundo ... plantaremos más, GRINGOS . mucho más y más , no dejaremos nunca de plantar

DEA

Feb 10 2006, 12:21 pm

DEA agent here, taking your questions and comments!

The Truth

Feb 10 2006, 6:08 am

That was a weak ass update. come on hightimes.com put the joint down and get some information god dammit.

Stephanie

Feb 10 2006, 3:34 am

I like to recieve free hightimes merch...

cop killer

Feb 10 2006, 1:38 am

terrorism could b a great weapon to have weed leagalized ;)

daf365

Feb 10 2006, 1:05 am

Bongblaster, Who the hell are you , what is your agenda,and when you say the crap you do, back it up with some evidence please or Ill just assume your crazy or a disgruntled costumer.

LISTEN hummm of existence

Feb 10 2006, 1:03 am

check out:
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4638.html

. .. musta gone to Amsterdam.

damn

daf365

Feb 10 2006, 1:01 am

Sources close to the sceene huh, whatever, you guys are just paroting what you read on ICmag.com, you guys are realy out of touch, I you didnt even know about the issue until readers informed you, come on guys ,tighten up, quit smoking so much and get back to making a good curent website/mag.

c

Feb 10 2006, 12:58 am

the key is education. we have to educate the public. remember the government loves taking advantage of peoples stupidity snd when cannabis was first made illegal, they used the name reefer and marijuana for hemp, which people did know of but were unware that they were one and the same!

we should really be telling ppl why it is really illegal...based on ignorance, fear, and racism mostly. free the weed!!

stmrllr

Feb 10 2006, 12:47 am

It doesent matter they have already lost the drug war.lol

m2dj

Feb 9 2006, 9:28 pm

damn canada. im not suprised @ them sukking john ashcroft and bush's dick.

fukk that, we need to have a million man marijuana march, across canada and the u.s. everyone gotta be smoking!!! ill risk getting arrested to end prohibition. dont be a scared pothead, pussies. its only going to get worst if tyranny is not stopped. they WANT us in jail, we pay taxes to oppress ourselves. im ranting, but fukk a cop and scared potheads. imma smoke openly as always and grow my own, fukk buying bush's weed supplied by the cia trained ms-13.

Fatty!

Feb 9 2006, 9:19 pm

Yellow stoner! Do not let the the "leaders in Washington fool you. Some of them smoke it too. They are just to chicken-shit to admit it. Fatty!

Fatty!

Feb 9 2006, 9:16 pm

Hey Rodney Dangerfeild, I think the Simpsons are the best too! LOL!!!

Bongblaster

Feb 9 2006, 8:44 pm

Sunny has been proven a narc -
http://members.tripod.com/~spookbusters/squealers.htm

Sunny is squealing right now in the alt.drugs.pot.cultivation newsgroup!
He has put up a message called 'Sunny's is looking for a home'

Who's offering to give a home to this filthy fucking narc?

Only the disgraced 'Richard Calrisian' of 'Heavens Stairway' hempqc.com
That pig is now in alt.drugs.pot.cultivation OFFERING TO HELP HIS NARC SCUM BUDDIES!

Everybody can see more proof that this 'Heavens Stairway' is a narc front.
Hope somebody local arranges a meeting with this 'Richard' character and sorts him out.

Like one of the people that he's turned in, after they get out of jail........

Squeal squeal squeal weee weee weee. stuck little piggies are so desperate for
server space to host their spamming on, they are having to do it on their own
'five star' seedbank servers!

Hay... let's guess how long it's going to take for 'heavens stairway' to get an even
higher rating on the corrupt 'greenman' seedbank spamming system.
Wait - no, they're allready at the TOP!!
FUCKING NARCS.

Hay sunny you fucking PIG how does it feel when you keep getting booted off the
internet for spamming YOU FUCKING NARC.

There is nowhere to hide. And it's going to get worse.

Much, much, much worse.

he he he he he he he he he he
everybody is laughing at you.

skunk4me

Feb 9 2006, 8:33 pm

any updates?

blahblahblah

Feb 9 2006, 6:46 pm

Would this have any connection to THCseeds.com and why their servers were suddenly hit by a "powerstorm"?

DEA

Feb 9 2006, 6:14 pm

Im real fucked up. i myself get fudge-packed everyday. i take my police stick and ram it up my ass.. mmmm... it feels so good. btw... did you know what DEA stands for? Department of Errogant Assholes.

Pinky

Feb 9 2006, 5:53 pm

O.G. had the first REAL established method for actually TRYING to overgrow the forces, the government, be it Canada, OR (more than Likely) the U.S. They realized this. Got scared and had to take action. Hopefully, the actual charges are trumped up and OG will be back better than ever. But if not, than OG RIP and the next Organization rise like a seed from the soil.

Tarnak

Feb 9 2006, 3:47 pm

It wasn't even the DEA, JP, it was the fucking CANADIAN government.

Freedom of Speech is as nonexistant there as here.

Che

Feb 9 2006, 3:17 pm

some of u so called "men" on here a fuckin pathetic.

long.live.OG.

Double Monkey

Feb 9 2006, 2:46 pm

There need to be some kind of replacement forum for OG. There are thousands of pissed off stoners (a very rare thing might I add) We need some place to commune and exchange information. Does anyone know of another site?

Rufus

Feb 9 2006, 2:27 pm

i miss overgrow! this is bullshit!

es420

Feb 9 2006, 2:00 pm

Hey es420 sounds like you get your fudge packed alot!
sounds like you want us all to engage in brokeback mountain camping trip of sorts. You fucking cum dumpster!!

DEA

Feb 9 2006, 1:26 pm

Shit!!!!!!!!!
I guess you didn't read what I wrote. I guess I'm gonna have to send over some LEO's.......GODDAMN HIPPIES.

anonymous

Feb 9 2006, 1:07 pm

i mean... BAD HIPPIES? BAD HIPPIES? Wtf? are you 2?

anonymous

Feb 9 2006, 1:06 pm

wow... that was really bad.. couldent you come up with something better than that? cheezy mutha fucka.

DEA

Feb 9 2006, 12:32 pm

We are watching you!
We have your info!
Shoudn't you hippies be having dirty smelly sex right now! You would think after shutting down one site you dumbasses would stay off the rest and go back to playing your guitars around a campfire, sucking eachothers dicks and complaining about your so called repression! Were coming!
What ya gonna do?
What ya gonna do when they come for you - BAD HIPPIES, BAD HIPPIES- WHAT YA GONNA DO WHEN THE COME FOR YOU?!!!!

cheboygans

Feb 9 2006, 11:50 am

iv been wondering for weeks wtf happened to Overgrow. came in here to browse since i have no overgrow and seen this bullshit saying OG's been busted? that jus sucks goat ass times 10.
hope they come back online 1 day. i was registered on that board for shit 3+ years i think.

come back overgrow.

and if the bitches are watching u guys can suck my ballz on a hot day

if theres no more og then R.I.P. OVERGROW

Long Live u Mofos

-Che

Earthy_Dankness

Feb 9 2006, 11:49 am

I definatly agree with ganja. I hate when every fuckin little kid thats smoked pot think their weed is the "best". I've seen people actually fight about it. But yeah new strains are coming and going everyday. There is no way of known who best. The way I see it, If it makes ya feel good smoke it. And there is plenty of that in the ATL. Everyone needs to stop agrueing and just agree to disagree and pass the dutchie of freindship.

Ganja

Feb 9 2006, 10:31 am

Hey smoke "n" toke I have been to washington and the weed is good but you are very sadly mistaken if you think that there is no better weed. No,No,No,No my friend there is no "best" weed ever because every day somewhere in the world that amazing plant is somehow able to out do itself. The best weed today could be a joke in two weeks. Speaking of two weeks when your next harvest? I will come visit and we can argue about our weed until you pass out.

I Love Smoking Pot

Feb 9 2006, 1:48 am

What's next? Are they going to place a trade/travel embargo on Holland until they start locking up peaceful people? Treat them like commies because they tolerate personal freedoms? What the hell is going on here people?

Spaced Cowboy

Feb 9 2006, 1:45 am

Imagine that... And who was just elected up there??? Oh yeah! That's right, the FUCKING conservatives!!! What a bunch of filthy bastards. People are suffering and they are worried about the drug companies going broke. You know that is probably their sole motivation. Campaign contributions from drug companies. The left will bankrupt you, but the right will kill you. What a sorry society we live in.

Smoke "n" Toke

Feb 9 2006, 12:54 am

Let it be known that weed is good everywhere, but no weed is better than WaShInToN grade A fucking ganja, don't believe fucking travel yourself up to Edmonds WA and ask me personally for a sack of lung popping buds

wanker

Feb 8 2006, 11:59 pm

who fucked up the post

vancity reppin

Feb 8 2006, 10:16 pm

this is in response to "read-I'd -hash....." and "green hit" boycot Canada? haha cool then smoke only Mexi-crap all the more AAA quality for me-how about we boycot the US(DEA) for arresting canadians(marc emery)...and for mr. "my country is the best, most democratically free country in the world"...your full of shit...we do have a constitution with fundamental rights and freedoms....with an answer to your "freedom of speech"---hahaha which is a joke now with the amount of censorship your gov't authorizes....these issues are irrelavent in the case of these websites anyway...FYI

Jethro Bowl

Feb 8 2006, 9:48 pm

Im from Gainesville, FL, where we have some of the best tree's. Called Gainesville Green.

nomen nescio

Feb 8 2006, 9:29 pm

Oh MAN, what a downer...OG was a great resource for all kinds of greenery-related activity, and it's a real shame that once again, The Law has stuck its big nose in and ruined the fun for everybody. I hope somebody had the good sense to mirror this site somewhere; it'd be a terrible tragedy if such a treasure trove of valuable information were lost forever.

Peace and good vibes to the OG Crew, you folks did a great job running the site, and you will all be in my thoughts as I send clouds of smoke towards the heavens...I wish you all the best of luck in your upcoming battles with John Law, and offer my sincere hopes that things will turn out in your favor. God(s) bless, guys.

PT

Feb 8 2006, 8:40 pm

Soma busted Emerery busted, websites being shut down. Seems like a bad time to be a Ganja warrior. Yet they keep the flow of cheap heroin into the us at a steady pace. WTF is wrong with this world. Makes me sad

day day

Feb 8 2006, 8:15 pm

what do we do now no more overgrow

es420

Feb 8 2006, 8:11 pm

damn yall need to hop off each others dick smoke some weed and chill the fuck out.. spread the love man. its not a race issue anymore. its the elite vs the masses. educate ur bitch asses. just perpetuating the cycle and lettin them greasy ass politicans get their way.

Smokey McGanja

Feb 8 2006, 7:02 pm

Ya gotta stay highhhh, ih, ih, ihhhhhhh, ih, ihhhh, ih, ihhhh, ihhhh, till i die, ie, ie, ieeeeee, ie, ieee, ie, ieee, ieee.

One

Feb 8 2006, 6:49 pm

The government is out to burn, and looking for victims to all thise out there be safe, and cover your asses!!!

daf365

Feb 8 2006, 6:17 pm

Og is in the house for sure, this is the kind of ignorance the site was becoming famous for, Ethnocentrism, racism= ignorant

6 4

Feb 8 2006, 5:45 pm

P.S
p.s. STOP SNITCHING!!!!!!!!!!

that 6 4 black dude

Feb 8 2006, 5:39 pm

hey tag, u gotta remember he hates black people because his father hates black people and his dad hates black people because of his dad so they(meaning the trailer trash kkk members) are not free thinkers they go on someone elses thought process.and i also heard u have to get butt raped to even join the kkk. so u cant be mad at him because thats all he knows. and he hates me because my dick is larger than his self esteem will ever be. so take it easy on the little goof troop mini kkk wannabe (he thinks hes cool)hahahahaaa

anon

Feb 8 2006, 5:14 pm

ironically enough thats where your headed "jethro"....if you white supremisists choose to breed within a select number of bloodlines, your days (as a human looking species) is numbered.....well since you like guys, your not contributing to the gene pool (unless your THAT commited, lol) so thats good but still: all you racists are going to get ugglier and much more stuid as you keep reproducing with the same basic ancestoreal genetic material....

gotta go blaze one now...PEACE ;)

DopeyMcSmokePot

Feb 8 2006, 4:39 pm

*F.A.Q.s

Yellowstoner NationalPark

Feb 8 2006, 3:41 pm

Two Viewpoints of mine i will share.

Alcoholics will always cause more trouble & social issues than Stoners.

The more Authority you Have the More Chance of Abusing it there is.

Government officials Have authority and cant get stoned so here in lies one problem thay created.

rodney dangerfeild

Feb 8 2006, 3:30 pm

MANNNNN, that is some BULLSHITE, back in nineteen dickety two we smoked out the ying yang, we had to say dickety at the time cause the dam kaiser stole our word for twenty, dag nammit, i chased him dickety three miles, dangle darnit

Damien

Feb 8 2006, 3:18 pm

I can't believe a great site to turn to when you have growing issues. Whoever shut this site down should be shot dead.

Piss me off!

:(

Fudmukker

Feb 8 2006, 3:10 pm

They are probably watching this site also , fuck'm , fuck'm all !

Greenman

Feb 8 2006, 2:40 pm

This sort of thing will keep happening if we keep letting it. I'm gonna have to become a bigger supporter of the ACLU. We need to win in court.We need to win the right to grow and use the plant that god put on this Earth. We are just as good as anyone else and should demand the right to do as we please in the privacy of our own homes. Why are we still letting the feds keep up with this witch hunt?

Greenman

the Ghost

Feb 8 2006, 2:38 pm

Well I was over at CC anyway
I agree with dopeymcsmoke pot we need to gather all the info we can save it hide and wait for another site to be built I really hate the Net somedays we get all thes Asssholes saying shit everywhere excuse my language So INFO Saving I am down for the Cause So Dopey if you keep checking back Ghost here saying I'm with you bro!

Good ol Texas

Feb 8 2006, 1:54 pm

Its kinda sad that the government lets you take the drugs that THEY want you to take (Ritalin comes to mind and thats for kids!! Hell why not just give em cocaine it does the same thing to the brain, it shrinks it!) When it comes to MJ holy cow watch out your the enemy a terroist plotting against the Gov't. What would the founding fathers say about the state of America today? I wonder.

SMOKE1DOG

Feb 8 2006, 1:27 pm

FUCK O.G. IS THE SHIT I SO LEARN SO MUCH INFO ON CROPPING, FUCK THEM RAT BASTARD RCMP AN THE CIA
OVERGROW WORLD GROW BIG OR GO HOME

Reece

Feb 8 2006, 12:18 pm

Cops. sigh. yet another bunch of bullshit that they have come up with to piss people off. Maybe the officials should start shutting the alcohol sites down also, but of course alcohol isn't dangerous, is it Mr.COP?

anonymous

Feb 8 2006, 12:06 pm

Hey Mr FED. LEO, PIG, whatever you want to call yourself.. just dont call yourself a MAN. because you are less than a man. cant put away the real criminals so you arrest people with pot.. WOW.. you REALLY need those guns dont you? come on over to my house.. ill be waitin.. but just keep in mind.. if you come to MY house.. all im saying is IM NOT ALONE.. AnD IF YOU STEP FOOT ON MY LAND..YOU WILL KNOW IM NOT ALONE. oh yeah.. one more thing.... FUCK YOU RAT HOLE BASTARDS.

Mr. Fed The Narc

Feb 8 2006, 11:04 am

I'm watching all of you, I'm coming to get you, I have all your info just stay put and leo as you all call him will be there shortly to pick you up and haul you way.
Just keep getting high, having sex and then having abortions. Hippies smell worse than dog shit!
O'natural huh?

Green Hit

Feb 8 2006, 10:48 am

It is indeed unfortunate that Canadian law does not have to answer to a constitutional "freedom of the speech" guarantee similar to that found in the American Bill of Rights. Without unrestricted freedom of speech, all other perceived rights, whatever they may be, become totally academic.

CaesarBlackDom

Feb 8 2006, 9:27 am

Ok I think the real question that should be asked here is.... Are the thread writers, Moderators, and brains of those websites safe???

What can be done by the police to track down people of interest?

We saw this coming long ago, what a shame.

Vtownmale

Feb 8 2006, 8:31 am

Ok Help me figure this one out ,,, I f mark emery got busted and he is part of tis web site but it didn't get shut down , but they go to over grow and sgut them down!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't get it .
We All need to Stand up and fight for our rights , as Abe Lincoln once said "Prohibition..... goes beyond the bounds of reason in thatit attempts to controll a mans appitite by Legislation and makes a crime out ofthings THAT ARE NOT A CRIME, A pbohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our goverment was FOUNDED.
Aberham Lincoln
december 1840
LEGALIZE
or should i say
Give Us Back Our FREDOM

Bongblaster

Feb 8 2006, 7:13 am

HAPPY NEWS ABOUT RICHARD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I do not regret to inform you all that Richard Calrissian, a phake-opposition spook, was arrested on Monday night as cover so he could end his silly charade that has been exposed by Spookbusters, along with the rest of the CIA team by the RCMP, who are working with the CIA.

If you could all please take a moment of your time and pray for him and his family, because the outcome is still unknown except to the DCI.

Overgrow, cbay, Heaven Stairway, heavens stairway UK, Cannabis World,
and the rest of the CIA fronts have all been PERMANENTLY shut down.

knowing Richard, his directness and honesty, he would want you all to
know about his situation, a failed spook like Marc "the nark" Emery.

-B


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Update: Who spooked the spooks?

Did somebody blow a whistle or something?

They all left at once, like a swarm.

"Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed
Company and Eurohemp.com Owners Apprehended."

DopeyMcSmokePot

Feb 8 2006, 4:03 am

if you type "site:www.overgrow.com" after a particular topic you are searching, all the results will be from overgrow. Then when the list of results comes up click the "cached" link instead of the main heading link to view archived og pages through google. A search for "cloning faq site:www.overgrow.com" yields a number of hits for old og cloning faqs. once you are on the page of interest you can right click and then click "save page as" to save the page offline for safekeeping and future reference. If everyone chips in we can recover all of this precious information and reorganize it on another site before it is lost forever. Get to work OGers!!!

the evilest of them all

Feb 8 2006, 2:14 am

Okay, a single legal system where the application can result in: 60 days for a guy who rapes a six year old and jail for cannabis.

If there is a God may they bless and care for this six year old. At least they are reviewing THAT part of the law!

Seriously though, there are bigger fish to fry than responsible consumers, capable tradesmen, or self-sustaining gardeners, YA KNOW!!!!!!!???!!!??!??!!?!?!

O.G. refugee

Feb 8 2006, 1:03 am

there are mass gatherings
of members and admins going on at icmag.com
all questions/information about security and R.C. are being constantly updated
we are also trying to reconstruct the growfaqs and strain guide as well

Bongblaster

Feb 7 2006, 10:12 pm

CIA's electronic "cannabis-community" collapsed like a
house of cards. One nark, Richard Calrisian, gets "arrested,"
and six CIA fake-opposition website fronts go down.

The arrest story is as phony as a three dollar bill.
HighTimes don't know what the charges are; they don't know what jail
he's in; they don't even know what his real name is, but - they know
he's been "arrested" due to an "investigation" and six websites are down and the "cannabis community" is in disarray and bewilderment.

When your community is made up of electrons and pixels, it can disperse in a hurry.

the guts

Feb 7 2006, 9:46 pm

fuck the police; throw seeds on there lawns yea

ONE LOVE

Feb 7 2006, 9:20 pm

We need to do exactly what the gov. is doing and start a "WAR" THIS IS OUR MISSION..FOR EVERY MARIJUANA SMOKER, EVERY PERSON WHO THINKS MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEGAL, TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND LET THEM KNOW WE WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE ANY MORE OF THIS! PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD... STAND AND BE COUNTED. IF THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT YET BUILT THE JAILS TO HOUSE US..THEN THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN ARREST US ALL. IF ITS A WAR THEY WANT..ITS A WAR THEY WILL HAVE. ALSO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I MEAN THIS ALSO NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A PEACEFUL MANNER.. IF A POLICE PERSON TRIES TO ARREST YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE SMOKING MARIJUANA THEN JUST POLITELY TELL THEM YOU ARE YOUR OWN PERSON AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION AS TO WHAT GOES INTO YOUR BODY. THIS IS JUST GETTING SAD PEOPLE... WAKE UP... AND DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS.. if any LEO's are reading this or anyone in our gov'ment.. YOU GET THE CHOICE TO PUT WHAT EVER YOU WANT INTO YOUR BODY EVERYDAY. BE IT ALCOHOL, TYLONOL, NICOTINE, Etc.etc. WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO TELL US WE CANT HAVE THE CHOICE? Hippo-crits.

J da juvenille

Feb 7 2006, 9:06 pm

Brownie from Chicago makes a great point! our founding fathers were radicals who wouldnt take this BULLSHIT

Frankie G

Feb 7 2006, 9:03 pm

this is FUCKING BULLSHIT!!
i've been jailed for possession and i know what it's like to get fucked over by the pigs. LEGALIZE!! never let'em step out true freedom!

Frankie G

Feb 7 2006, 9:03 pm

this is FUCKING BULLSHIT!!
i've been jailed for possession and i know what it's like to get fucked over by the pigs. LEGALIZE!! never let'em step out true freedom!

Brownie from Chicago

Feb 7 2006, 8:58 pm

Can you Imagine people jailing other people over which flowers they like to grow and pick.... Our tax dollars would be better spent jailing people that hurt others'..

If pot was legal jails and prison's would not be over crowded.....

the DEA should have the balls to fight against Osama and the like in Afganistan and Pakistan, rather than shake down college kids for giggling....

"The war on drugs" is as vague as "the war on terror"
I believe corporations commit acts that make people live their lives in constant fear.... What about our Bill of Rights?

Also when the hell did wars need a Movie title? //Desert storm// War on Terror // What's next??? "Chinese Checkers" "South by South Korea" What the F*%K?

How About "Government Gone Mafia" "the Kingdom of Hell" "The Oil Boy Masacre"
"the Adventures of Curious George and Dick"

They should all be pissed at George Washington for planting pot everywhere...

Good thing we had the hemp to print the Bill of Rights, Preamble, and US Constitution...

Perhaps our government is boycotting some of the things those silly little Hemp scraps say and are supposed to be provided to all of us! After all, they are irradicating Marijuana from our Earth... oh yeah,, it helps cancer patients regain their appetite.... MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT CAN EASE THERE SUFFERING WITH CASH OR FREE LAND



Maybe the War is coming to our soil sooner than we think...

Cowboys vs. Government

Afterall, our country was founded by radicals that refused to deal with Bullshit...

If it smells like it, and it looks like it, maybe it is!!

musicfan

Feb 7 2006, 8:23 pm

Parnoia strikes deep,into your life it will creep.
Starts wen your always afraid.
Step out of line, the Man come and takes you away...

Fatty!

Feb 7 2006, 7:40 pm

I have heard of "Johny Apple Seed." But where is "Johny Cannabis seed" spreading his seeds across the counntry side? I guess Johny C is not free to plant his seeds, because BIG Brother is oppressing Johnys freedoms!

Legalize!!!

Fatty!

Feb 7 2006, 7:13 pm

All that effort and money spent shutting down a web-site. Why does law enforcement spend so much money and time going after people who mean no harm to others. Why not spend that money and time on catching rapists, murders and terrorists? I do not understand why governments waist so much money?

Legalize!!!!!!

lcl420tribe (og)

Feb 7 2006, 5:16 pm

i grew the best strains of my life with the help & knowledge from (OG).i learned so much! best cultivation website EVER!
good luck ogers & never quit!

o.g. refugee

Feb 7 2006, 5:06 pm

there are mass gatherings of members and admins from og going on at icmag.com
all questions about security and r.c. are being updated constantly
we are trying to also reconstruct the growfaqs as well

BaKeD in WI

Feb 7 2006, 5:00 pm

PLANT-SEEDS-EVERYWHERE

Cop_killa1

Feb 7 2006, 4:56 pm

Damm.. OG busted!! wtf man.. How is RC and his family? Keep your heads up.. Fuck the police

read-I'd-hashgrozombie

Feb 7 2006, 4:36 pm

Those bastards are turning honest men and women into criminals. BOYCOT CANADA (I would like to but it would be to hard).

'-,-'

Feb 7 2006, 4:16 pm

*sigh*

Tis a sad day indeed friends. I will miss you all, K+

stickamafoo

Feb 7 2006, 4:15 pm

i whent to overgrow today to checkon a strain and it was down i was like wtf and well now i know that te feds shut them down. thanks a bunch feds score one for the good side (being sarcastic). to bad they got shut down they where a realy good site to >

Hashcraver

Feb 7 2006, 4:02 pm

I would be more then happy to stand next to RC and help him and his family in this time of need. Please tell everyone you know and don't know, MARIJUANA hasn't killed anyone to date. Drinking to much water has.

daf

Feb 7 2006, 3:29 pm

If they are kicking down doors, they are not doing it with the swiftness we would expect, the majority opinion is the Ips are not relavent, but people were getting to laxed on that web site , security first peops.

daf365

Feb 7 2006, 3:26 pm

He wasnt arested because he was a web master, it was most likely because the owner of OG owned a seed distribution company.Heavens stairway, I have a fealing seeds are the target similar to the mark emory case, did seed companys realy think they would stop with Mark? We had fair warning.

Audigy

Feb 7 2006, 3:15 pm

You think they can actually can you in shit with the IPs? If so.. oh shizzle. Anywho, to OG owners and OG members.. this bong hit is for you.

c

Feb 7 2006, 3:13 pm

I find this perplexing that Canada went after the sites and not the US. Shit they hardly ever enforce marijuana prohibition in Vancouver let alone arrest a webmaster who operates a marijuana website!!! But I can sense the US probably had something to do with this. All part of their plan for a "New American Century" aka the 4th Reich which doesnt include cannabis on their guest list. They can all burn in hell for their crimes!!!! Allah is Great!!!!

Lord of the Strain (OG)

Feb 7 2006, 3:12 pm

Over the years I got to know many members on many levels and consider them all as friends. I will miss our conversations. Stay safe everyone. Love and K+ to you all.

og refugee's

Feb 7 2006, 3:09 pm

yep truly sad indeed i hopeeveryone stays safe
we have started a forum for o.gers at icmag.com and planetganja if your lookin for lost buddies and security questions are being answered and speculated on around the clock
peace and stay safe

I Miss OG

Feb 7 2006, 3:05 pm

OG was a wonderful resource - but as we can all see now, it was vulnerable.

I guess I'm gonna have to buy more books and cultivation magazines - they can't log the IP of my HIGH TIMES magazine or my Jorge Cervantes Grow Bible!

diggydank

Feb 7 2006, 2:55 pm

WOW THIS SUCKZ .all of my pis are gone .some 1 needs 2 let us all know if are ip's are safe .cuz i have a bad feeling about was is going 2 happen. 0o0o boy this is very very bad.some 1 please find out if the people that got are info are busting people and does any 1 know what day this happend
P.S
R.I.P TO B.O.G'S POST. THAT REALY SUCKZ

Bloody Grower

Feb 7 2006, 2:48 pm

Yeah whats this mean to us who used the Site for commmunity I've found some refugees in myspace still nobody nows what this truly means will their be a huge Net thrown out to try and round up lets see them do it because if over a thousand People get usted for growing well I Know this Fact Most Growers their were Personal growers So I think The GOVT's will Look like A jack ass in the end I Miss Overgrow daily so who's next and please get us some Fucking INFO MAn

Kayvizz

Feb 7 2006, 2:17 pm

I need someone to tell me... HOW FUCKED are WE as EX-members and cultivators?... is our IP adress and information on a list? who knows. I'll tell Ya'll what though..."im definatly going to need to burn one down and try to calm my nerves... my current state.. Paranoia... Later.

google caches

Feb 7 2006, 1:57 pm

googls has it all cached still...

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:ezbcjTBVrDkJ:overgrow.com/edge/+overgrow.com+%2B+edge&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2

daf365

Feb 7 2006, 1:57 pm

I knew it was too good to last, I just wonder what the body count will be at the end of all this? More c.o.w's are sure to result from this.

daf365

Feb 7 2006, 1:53 pm

Thanks for finaly getting that info out.

chuck

Feb 7 2006, 1:30 pm

More a question,what about ips, are they being investigated???

ryan

Feb 7 2006, 1:27 pm

i cannot beileve this, i had so many memories in those gallery's, and now their all gone :(, i was a member their for quite some time, why does this have to happen

Tech

Feb 7 2006, 12:16 pm

What happened to freedom of speach and expresssion? Watch the governments misinformation battle wage on.

c

Feb 7 2006, 11:53 am

just imagine how many child molesters and murderers and rapists got away this time!!

OG4LIFE

Feb 7 2006, 11:32 am

sorry about that im a little distraught.. but seriously OG was a great help to people everywhere they will indeed be missed by many

OG4LIFE

Feb 7 2006, 11:29 am

man i feel for the OG webmasters and hope that one day this country will overlook the satiricle(sp?) tyranny of the facist US goverment and realize that we have to stand up for the common cause...............
now say it with me 1...2...3.
FUCK THE GOVERMENT

OG4LIFE

Feb 7 2006, 11:26 am

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