McCain Keeps Head in the Sand on Medical Marijuana Issue
Wed, Oct 03, 2007 11:43 am
Hey, remember back in April when John McCain grandly claimed he’d let states decide the medical marijuana issue? Then, three months later, when asked if he still supported ending federal raids on MMJ patients and caregivers in the states where medical marijuana is legal McCain suddenly changed his mind, saying, "I don't think marijuana is healthy, I don't think that it is good for people, and there is a large body of medical opinion that says there is plenty of other medications that are more effective and better and less damaging to one's health to use to relieve pain.”
Most recently the senator from Arizona told a medical marijuana patient at a September 30th Town Hall meeting in New Hampshire that neither he nor anyone he knows has ever heard of a case in which the federal government has arrested a dying patient over medical marijuana. McCain goes on to insist, “We don’t arrest people that are dead and dying…that’s not the kind of society we live in.” If only, Mr. Senator. If only.
McCain then berates the woman who posed the question (and who, by the way, is confined to a wheelchair due to illness) telling her that there are far more effective ways to treat her illness – never mind the fact that he doesn’t have the slightest idea what it is exactly that she’s suffering from.
Bonus: For fun, check out how far away from the questioner McCain bolts when she first utters the word “marijuana.”






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umm
Oct 17 2007, 8:34 pm
writeinRonPaul
Oct 16 2007, 6:02 pm
please pardon the profanity
Senile to actually
Oct 15 2007, 6:07 am
Obama to Bob
Oct 13 2007, 4:34 am
MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE — In his first public statement on the subject, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama pledged to end medical marijuana raids in the 12 states that have medical marijuana laws Tuesday at a campaign event during a Nashua Pride minor league baseball game.
The Illinois senator's statement means all eight Democratic candidates have now voiced support for the 12 states with medical marijuana laws. Republican candidates Rep. Ron Paul (Texas), Rep. Tom Tancredo (Colo.) and former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson have all vowed to end medical marijuana raids as well.
On Friday, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who signed legislation in April making his the 12th medical marijuana state, wrote to President Bush asking him to end federal raids in medical marijuana states.
"Respected physicians and government officials should not fear going to jail for acting compassionately and caring for our most vulnerable citizens," Richardson wrote. "Nor should those most vulnerable of citizens fear their government because they take the medicine they need."
"I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users," Obama said. "It's not a good use of our resources."
"For the first time in history, the leaders of one of our nation’s major parties have unanimously called for an end to the federal prosecution of medical marijuana patients," GSMM campaign manager Stuart Cooper, from Manchester, said. "New Hampshire voters and medical professionals effectively sent a clear message that we would not support a candidate who would arrest – rather than protect – our nation's most seriously ill citizens. Compassion and reason are finally overcoming politics and propaganda."
Bob Anslinger
Oct 12 2007, 2:29 pm
Bob Anslinger
Oct 12 2007, 2:21 pm
actually
Oct 11 2007, 6:53 pm
Senile Old Bastard
Oct 10 2007, 4:00 pm
uncomprehendable ?..
Whats that ? Are you trying to say you can't understand what I meant ?
Looks like plain english to me .
umm
Oct 10 2007, 8:28 am
Senile Old Bastard
Oct 9 2007, 4:48 pm
re: senial ob
Oct 9 2007, 10:05 am
just curious
Oct 8 2007, 3:50 pm
none
Oct 8 2007, 12:40 pm
Senile Old Bastard
Oct 8 2007, 8:01 am
BUT..
Surely you people realize your position is not the only position on the matter .
You can ignore the official stance on the subject (but thats what you accuse them of ? )And they can ignore your stance on the issue. (I personaly believe they are wrong but also believe they really believe what the say on the subject .)
They claim "its for the childrens sake " . You claim its "medicine for dieing people " .
I say ... if you want /need it , then use it . Why does everybody need validation/approval/permission/ acceptance .....for something that should be as private as wiping your ass ...
ps . I have no horse in this race .
LovesToSmoke
Oct 8 2007, 7:46 am
Good points this time. This is how it should work, rational reasoning between us and everyone else who may participate. No name calling, no out right rejection; why didn't you start this way?
As for a postal employee checking, use a drop box so there is no eye contact. The return address being the same as the send to just means that the post office has to deliver; they see it addressed to the white house, look at the return address to return it to it's source as undeliverable and see the same address again. Yes they will get mad, someone will put it on TV and before you know it we have a peaceful civil protest that drives them mad.
1) Suspicion is the norm, they want to divide us and have done a great job of it.
2) That hair trigger will go off no matter what you do or don't do, I'd for one would rather go down protesting then crying like a baby in the back of a cop car.
3) Paranoia is most definitly all the rage these days, it helps divide us. Again, I'd rather go down standing then live in constant fear and paranoia.
Another thing about the postal employees, do they not smoke it too? With all the 'going postal' legends, I'd think they would be more than happy to lay some of that paranoia and suspicion at the feet of those who force it on them/us. Don't you?
Experiment in Maturity
Oct 8 2007, 7:35 am
Raise your hands ......
:o) to uhmmm
Oct 8 2007, 7:31 am
Lets talk about his lack of hair color.
Doesn't he talk funny too ?
And whats up with that accent ?
We alrady know he ain't getting elected , lets bad mouth his family !
Dosn't he have a fucked up dog or something ?
McCain to Ummm
Oct 8 2007, 6:58 am
You want me to just forget the pros and cons and just go with your special interests groups agenda ?( that would not be fair to the other special interest groups and not very leader like for innocent bystanders .)
I am interested in your ability to read minds . That probably helps a lot in your vast leadership experiences ?
And finally , I realize I won't be elected (and maybe thats for the better ) so your efforts to provide a layer of mud to hide behind is not needed . Thanks anyway .
ps . Bush says "thanks for helping in the last election , couldn't have done it without ya " ...
to ummm
Oct 8 2007, 5:46 am
Who are you preaching to ?
Anybody on the wall over this subject might feel he needs a sympathy vote 'cause you are "helping " to much .
Don't know what I mean ?.... I DO believe that .
recall
Oct 8 2007, 12:10 am
Generally some tax greivance
umm
Oct 7 2007, 9:00 pm
Green Hit
Oct 7 2007, 8:35 pm
Well, you've given me your thoughts and I've given you mine, and I suppose that's something good, after all.
A few things further, though. By "no return address", I meant an address different from that of the White House, and a more attentive postal employee WILL notice. I know such employees exist from an experience of my own in which I mailed a letter ( which I would assume to be even less suspicious than a package ) to the IRS and the man at the desk noticed that I had not included a return address, something which he found suspicious enough to inquire about. Making the return address the same as the mailing address would, in all likelihood, amount to the same thing in the eyes of such a person. This would, in similar fashion, put me, again, "on the radar", by which I mean that my existence has been noticed ( other than as a face to be forgotten almost immediately ) by some type of gov't employee. For myself, I don't mind casting an anonymous vote or standing in a crowd, for instance, but I do not wish to stand out from among other voters or stand out from the crowd. I much prefer the anonymity of the "gray man" approach to life and its problems.
One last thing. Where gov't is concerned, 1) suspicion is the norm, 2) it is always on a hair trigger, and therefore, 3) it takes very little to activate it and put one on the radar, possibly for a very long time. This might seem a somewhat paranoid point of view, but I honestly believe the current political state of things in this nation warrant it, because the gov't has shown itself to be even more paranoid than I am.
LovesToSmoke
Oct 7 2007, 5:36 pm
Look in the link, see the word 'bid' (look at the line break)? Hightimes is putting a space between the 'bi' and 'd' when you copy and paste the address, which then defualts to a generic page. When you copy and paste the link, remove the space between 'bi' and 'd' and it will work. Thanks again to the freaks and a**holes who run HighTimes for making life difficult. You f***s need a new boss, me, that will put you a**holes in your place!!!!!
LovesToSmoke
Oct 7 2007, 5:29 pm
http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=1419&aid=24&rnd=87
LovesToSmoke
Oct 7 2007, 5:23 pm
http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=1419&aid=24&rnd=87
LovesToSmoke
Oct 7 2007, 5:17 pm
Here's the link:
http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=1419&aid=24&md=87
Green Hit
Oct 7 2007, 12:58 pm
I wholeheartedly agree with your stance on unity of action. However, I don't agree that peanuts should be regarded as the vehicle of choice for eliciting change in our MJ laws. Another point I would bring up is that of sending packages to the President of the United States that have no return address. Considering the age in which we live, this could easily result in investigation by federal authorities for suspicious activities, and especially so now that the Patriot Act is in effect. How can you seriouly ask people, many of whom are active growers, to place themselves on the federal terrorist lists in such a blatant, reckless fashion? If you want unity of effort in this, you MUST find a much safer method that is also more to the point.
By the way, I am unable to access the board you refer to or any other such under the "list all" option under "General News" heading. Perhaps others are experiencing the same difficulty.
LovesToSmoke
Oct 7 2007, 11:09 am
As for 'who thinks they are making a difference', I think we all do, or at least want to. Making a difference, however, cannot be done by one person. The only way to make a difference is to work together, and when the only people you have to work with are contented with being stoned and stupid; as long as they make money/don't have to deal with it themselves/can laugh at the'stupidity' of others, then no difference will ever be made. You laugh at my 'peanut war' idea, yet it HAS worked and will work again, if only people would work with, not against, each other.
Green Hit
Oct 7 2007, 10:59 am
What! No pitch about peanuts?
HU210
Oct 7 2007, 7:40 am
That was the mantra back in 2000 in the movie Traffic as I recall.
The American public stampeeded to the theaters
, amost as if some patriotic duty to do so.
Only to learn that thinking outside the box. Leaned towards legalization/ decrimalization, or a treatment approach vs a police state approach.
Being a war like culture. Americans soundly rejected the kinder genteler approach of legalization. And promptly increased the penalties for "drug offences", nationwide!
Re: ummm
Oct 7 2007, 7:21 am
Unfortunetly your rational is already suspect due to previous posts .
You aren't one of those people that "helped" in the last election , which backfired causing Bush to be re-elected are you ?
Re: loves to smoke
Oct 7 2007, 7:14 am
You assume quite a bit here . Who thinks they're making a difference ?
Is that what you think you're doing ? heh , heh , good luck with that .
LovesToSmoke
Oct 7 2007, 2:59 am
umm
Oct 6 2007, 9:11 pm
:o)
Oct 6 2007, 5:35 pm
You just don't like the guy .
Thats cool , just be honest .
hmm
Oct 6 2007, 2:13 pm
hmm
Oct 6 2007, 2:10 pm
Jonathan Magbie
Peter McWilliams
There are others sadly who have died, and mccain denys this fact. Why does mccain deny their death?
Green Hit
Oct 6 2007, 2:04 pm
I guess not. I notice nobody's stampeding to the man's defense. 'Nuff said, I reckon.
reaction
Oct 6 2007, 1:41 pm
nomad81
Oct 6 2007, 1:27 pm
Knot
Oct 6 2007, 12:41 pm
Bummer, Dude!
Oct 6 2007, 12:29 pm
Re: umm
Oct 6 2007, 11:39 am
"Aparently, their are a lot of cannibis haters in these forums "
I realize this is supposed to be some kind of accusation
but fail to see how you associate "cannibis haters" with your absence of reason .
hmm
Oct 6 2007, 11:03 am
I stand by what I quoted, that in effect, some peoples lives depend on pot, and if policy makers ignore their right to life, then they will die.
Bummer, Dude!
Oct 6 2007, 10:49 am
to green hit
Oct 6 2007, 5:59 am
Grown Up in the Room
Oct 6 2007, 5:45 am
Would-a , Should-a , Could-a
versus reality ......?
I don't think the "forum" needs enlightenment on this non-issue .
To Ummm
Oct 5 2007, 6:15 pm
Put the bong down , you're what we call " Stupified" .
No offense , but read what you have posted aloud ....
Re: Re: ummmmm
Oct 5 2007, 5:59 pm
"PLEASE - think outside the box "
Its ok to think outside the box , but wandering away from the box will get you lost .
re: re:ummm
Oct 5 2007, 5:11 pm
&
Oct 5 2007, 3:59 pm
Green Hit
Oct 5 2007, 2:52 pm
Re: ummm
Oct 5 2007, 2:16 pm
"if so " ....not even close.
Interesting attempt though .
Putting a spin on the subject should be left those who do it well .
mcpain
Oct 5 2007, 1:21 pm
umm
Oct 5 2007, 1:19 pm
If so, mccains policies are in effect murdering the sick. How is this abuse of government power allowed to continue?
Legalize this harmless herb today!
NO one has ever died due to pot. PERIOD
domingos
Oct 5 2007, 10:24 am
Austin
Oct 4 2007, 10:52 pm
LovesToSmoke
Oct 4 2007, 5:53 pm
"Marijuana's 42 Billion Question". You'll have to read it from the bottom to top to understand. Way too much typing to do over and HighTimes does not allow copy and paste on the boards. If you want to post an e-mail address, I'll e-mail you a copy so you don't have to go find the topic, it scrolled off the list on the home page already. You'll have to follow the 'more' link at the bottom of the list.
Green Hit
Oct 4 2007, 5:53 pm
to lovesto smoke
Oct 4 2007, 2:44 pm
LovesToSmoke
Oct 4 2007, 1:17 pm
Are you kidding me?
After the lambasting you gave me about a serious idea I posted? You sir are a hipocrate! People of this board, you want to go to the 'Marijuana's 42 Billion Question' board and read the posts! If you really want to try something, anything at all but sitting moaning and graoning, go read those posts. Pay attention to the comments 'Green Hit' posts. Do his posts read like someone who really is tired of the pervision this prohibition has caused? This guy is nothing but negetive; 'Oh well, there will never be a president, don't posit anything if it doesn't involve voting, it's the american way'.
And you want me to believe you are not a gov't monitor Hreen Hit? You are doing EXACTLY what I would expect you to be doing. You, sir, are exposed!
A word to the wise, not being a monitor makes you even more of a hipocrate, that you would post discouraging comments for no reason at all. You are the epitome of shame.
Hey PoiticsIsTheAnswer... Determined, non-violent, overwhelming! I'll add, inexpensive, requring almost no effort at all and it WORKED the one time it was tried!
NHmmj
Oct 4 2007, 12:32 pm
Kinda weird. He gets kinda testy and then changes his tone.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5660PKZesVo
RE"
Oct 4 2007, 11:35 am
Re: Steved
Oct 4 2007, 11:28 am
Disclaimer : I realize biases excist in nearly everything , but , in the interest of accuracy , it should be avoided when possible .
Steved
Oct 4 2007, 11:16 am
Re: actually
Oct 4 2007, 11:14 am
"clearly takes a reproachful tone"
You're speaking beyond the facts . Good luck with that . :o)
Actually
Oct 4 2007, 11:01 am
McCain clearly has contempt for this woman and med. mar. users in general. He clearly takes a reproachful tone when he tells her that she must be the only person who's helped by med. marijuana. And goes on - over her attempted interjections - to insist she show him documentation of raids and marijuana's efficacy.
So, yeah, all that did happen. He did berate her in my opinion.
But I suppose it's a matter of opinion. Yours is just wrong.
Buzz Ard
Oct 4 2007, 6:22 am
Stems & Seeds .com
Oct 4 2007, 6:04 am
Fair Play
Oct 4 2007, 5:56 am
"McCain then berates the woman who poses the question "
Berate: to scold in a harsh way .
This didn't happen . I have a problem with bullshit reporting myself , regardless of who the subject matter
?
Oct 4 2007, 5:44 am
Loitering ? Death without permit ?
Well...
Oct 4 2007, 2:12 am
Thank god that this isn't the kind of society we live in... but I bet if they thought they could get away with it, they would.
~joker'
Oct 3 2007, 8:39 pm
Bummer Dude!
Oct 3 2007, 7:01 pm
HU210
Oct 3 2007, 5:56 pm
If 20,000,000 cannabis consumers united to vote for someone like Ron Paul for example.
The Major candidates would be clammoring for and tripping over each other to make the cannabis issue their own in the next election.
They gotta know and see that there are votes in it.
That gets our elected servants attention, nothing else-except $$$ maybe.
HU210
Oct 3 2007, 5:40 pm
no question
Oct 3 2007, 5:01 pm
Re: to greenhit
Oct 3 2007, 4:58 pm
Green Hit
Oct 3 2007, 4:44 pm
As far as McCain himself is concerned, I believe he was disconnected from reality a long, long time ago. Vietnam might have done a number on the man's mind.
Mateo
Oct 3 2007, 4:40 pm
POLITICS IS THE ANSWER
Oct 3 2007, 2:28 pm
It will take serious political action for things to change.
When you get high, gently mention to our fellow brothers and sisters why they have to live in fear to use their medicine, and what needs to be done to change it.
Determined, non-violent, overwhelming protest and political action will change these racist, greed driven laws, and nothing else.
McCain is Scum
Oct 3 2007, 2:24 pm
Cannabis is a healthy, effective medicine; it's been known for 10,000 years.
His campaign for President is a total failure, because he can't stick by a position.
So now he needs money from the Pharmaceutical industry to keep his losing campaign afloat, so he'll say what he needs to say.
You have no integrity Senator McCain. You will never be my President!
Dr, Drew
Oct 3 2007, 1:55 pm
hilljack
Oct 3 2007, 1:51 pm
how do you arrest a dead person?
i'd hate to be his cell mate....
Re: Green Hit
Oct 3 2007, 1:20 pm
Green Hit
Oct 3 2007, 1:02 pm
Am I in error on this?
wow
Oct 3 2007, 12:33 pm
RONPAUL2008.COM
Oct 3 2007, 12:29 pm
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
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