Canada: Smell of Weed No Longer Grounds for Arrest, Search
Tue, Feb 12, 2008 3:49 pm
The ruling in centered around the case of Archibald Janvier. He was driving in La Loche four years ago when he was pulled over by an RCMP officer because his truck had a broken headlight. The officer approached the vehicle and smelt burnt marijuana. Janvier was arrested for possession of marijuana based on the smell emitting from his truck. The officer then searched the vehicle and found eight grams of marijuana and what was thought to be a list of contacts, which resulted in the charge of possession for the purpose of trafficking.
The case went to trial and the judge found a violation of Janvier's charter right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure. The judge excluded the evidence and Janvier was declared not guilty.
"The smell alone can't constitute the grounds because the smell of burnt marijuana - as opposed to raw marijuana - gives an inference that the material is gone, it's dissipated into the atmosphere. So how can you say you're in possession of something that doesn't exist?" said Ronald Piche, Janvier's lawyer.
"There may be suspicion that the person is in possession of marijuana but that's not enough to base an arrest."
The Crown appealed the decision and the trial judge's decision was upheld.
"Until now police have used smell of marijuana as reasonable grounds to arrest someone for possession of marijuana," Piche said. "It always struck me as a little thin, frankly. It's frankly a lazy officer's way of giving out a warrant and getting to check a vehicle out and often times finding some evidence."
Piche said the decision is encouraging because the province's highest court has taken a liberal interpretation of this law.










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in that case
Mar 6 2008, 10:28 am
John Doe
Mar 6 2008, 7:02 am
Actually , denying permission for a search is NOT grounds for probable cause according to the Supreme Court . The "I smell marijuana " ploy is though .
If they really smell weed , they won't need your permission . This varies from state to state but not by much .
ct420
Mar 6 2008, 1:08 am
Re: the headline
Feb 29 2008, 5:38 am
Re: the headline...
Feb 29 2008, 4:16 am
okla420
Feb 19 2008, 12:04 am
okla420
Feb 18 2008, 11:56 pm
Excuse me folks
Feb 17 2008, 9:00 pm
Nothing really changed ....don't give this any more merit than what it is . Symbolic crumbs that will only help that one guy .
Hooray for Canada ? Not even . Maybe Hooray for the guy that won his case ... just a crumb to the defendant and a wink to the law dogs "word your arrest correctly , we had to let this one slide " .
(Note: the last sentence was not really a quote ..it is meant to be MY personal opinion and is not meant to be copied , folded , spindled or mutilated . These are not the view shared by H/T and no inclusion is implied . )
dodo burner
Feb 16 2008, 7:52 pm
secondly - all you people that vote are goddamn morons. the only thing that these candidates talk about is how this and that are not working so we need "change" and we need "change" but they never have any suggestion on what to change it to.
i hate politics, especially american - the only thing that matters is fuckin money and whos got it. i'm fuckin broke so i cant change the world
truehate
Feb 15 2008, 6:58 pm
At least our government has it's head on straight! (at least for the most part)
I mean, we don't send teenagers to jail for having a gram on them, I like how our government gives people chances to make up for their mistakes. The United States, well, theyll just destroy your life because they consider pot to be as bad as heroin. What a joke.
Heil Canada!
Go to the grow section @
Feb 14 2008, 6:50 am
For soil questions
slightly off topic
Feb 13 2008, 9:25 pm
MassHaze
Feb 13 2008, 5:38 pm
MassHaze
Feb 13 2008, 5:36 pm
Stop calling me miss haze, it makes you sound stupid. All it does is let me know which one of you stupid fucks I am talking to.
Vermont wanting to impeach somebody doesnt make the war illegal. Vermont thinking it is the king of the planet does not make them that. Extremist liberals, thank god, arent correct simply because they cry louder. Shame they dont seem to be able to read, either...
How in the hell am I any more misinformed than you? What, because Bush hasnt been your favorite compromiser as a President? He didnt break any laws, no matter how many you make up in your wanna-be-right stupid fuck brain.
Fact is a fact because it is FACT, not because you "agree" with it you fucking moron. There are no "eye witness accounts" of bombs being placed, only eye-witness accounts of people working on the building before 9/11. Just keep it coming, unless you think everyone in the WTC was a bomb expert and knew what they were watching....
I was for Ron Paul until I actually started thinking clearly about the WHOLE matter and not just how much he is a badass for marijuana laws. He is not a full-fledged good candidate and he has no chances. Live with it.
You never proved anything AT ALL about the North American Union. Like I said, SUPPORT YOUR SHIT YOU FUCKING MORONS!!! HEARSAY AND CONSPIRACY IS NOT FACT! CONSPIRACY THEORISTS HAVE THE SAME PROPAGANDA TOOLS AS YOUR ENEMIES.
? to badcheck 1212
Feb 13 2008, 5:14 pm
No .
miccheck1212
Feb 13 2008, 5:00 pm
to dutchman
Feb 13 2008, 4:08 pm
theflyingdutchman
Feb 13 2008, 3:57 pm
What the **** have you been smoking, people?!?
to okay
Feb 13 2008, 3:00 pm
who's retarded
Feb 13 2008, 10:25 am
losers
Feb 13 2008, 10:05 am
Okay
Feb 13 2008, 9:37 am
If you don't think Vermont wants to bring him on impeachment charges for going to war without a declaration of war, and him signing the north american union without approval from congress, then you have truelly stumped lol.
To the people that arn't retarded, if you don't want Canida, America, and Mexico educate your fellow man, and get Ron Paul elected he's the only candidate left that is against the north american union, patriot act, enslavement of people with oil, he's against carbon tax (global warming Tax remember global warming is not real but a scare tactic to tax the people on carbon) hes against the unconstitutional illegal income tax. and hes for legalizing the constitution.
or
Feb 13 2008, 7:21 am
Lol
Feb 13 2008, 7:17 am
John Doe
Feb 13 2008, 6:00 am
Thats just an accusation .
If there were grounds for impeachment he'd be gone by now .
Quite a few Presidents have had impeachment accusations made against them . Its a political ploy . Bottom line is , impeachment requires more than wishful thinking .
Re: have to be retarded
Feb 13 2008, 5:38 am
What "impeachment charges" are you referring to ? I don't think you understand the process .
cool
Feb 13 2008, 1:03 am
smokin j
Feb 13 2008, 12:18 am
america
Feb 12 2008, 11:01 pm
Canadian
Feb 12 2008, 10:11 pm
big baby jesus
Feb 12 2008, 9:32 pm
kinder
Feb 12 2008, 9:06 pm
so miss haze
Feb 12 2008, 8:00 pm
Green Hit
Feb 12 2008, 7:32 pm
you have to be retarded
Feb 12 2008, 7:19 pm
you have to be retarded
Feb 12 2008, 7:18 pm
Re: to below
Feb 12 2008, 7:06 pm
to mass haze
Feb 12 2008, 6:57 pm
MassHaze
Feb 12 2008, 6:23 pm
If it isn't Zeitgeist where you got it, well then... dont believe it anyways. Everyone seems to think Bush can just "go around" every process known to American systems.
why
Feb 12 2008, 6:21 pm
to poster below
Feb 12 2008, 6:18 pm
MassHaze
Feb 12 2008, 6:18 pm
Conspiracy theory = worthless, but interesting popcorn conversation
the post below is
Feb 12 2008, 6:00 pm
Stop presenting your paranoid delusions as fact. If you're worried about this happening some day, state that it is a possibility but don't go around stating such things have happened. They have not.
yo jacky
Feb 12 2008, 5:56 pm
lets go NwO vote Obama, Vote Hillary Vote MCCAIN!!
jackytheNose
Feb 12 2008, 5:39 pm
Legalize Now
Feb 12 2008, 4:21 pm
Go Canada, lots of progress in the last couple months considering we have a conservative gov't.
so...
Feb 12 2008, 4:07 pm
MassHaze
Feb 12 2008, 4:04 pm
Way to go Canada.
John Doe
Feb 12 2008, 3:55 pm
John Doe
Feb 12 2008, 3:52 pm
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