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Thu, Apr 03, 2008 12:51 pm

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Disavowed Justice Department Legal Memo: Constitutional Protections Did Not Apply

For at least 16 months after the Sept. 11 terror attacks in 2001, the Bush administration believed that the Constitution's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures on U.S. soil didn't apply to its efforts to protect against terrorism.

That view was expressed in a Justice Department legal memo dated Oct. 23, 2001. The administration on Wednesday stressed that it now disavows that view.

The October 2001 memo was written at the request of the White House by John Yoo, then the deputy assistant attorney general, and addressed to Alberto Gonzales, the White House counsel at the time. The administration had asked the department for an opinion on the legality of potential responses to terrorist activity.

The 37-page memo has not been released. Its existence was disclosed Tuesday in a footnote of a separate secret memo, dated March 14, 2003, released by the Pentagon in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union.

"Our office recently concluded that the Fourth Amendment had no application to domestic military operations," the footnote states, referring to a document titled "Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activities Within the United States."

Exactly what domestic military action was covered by the October memo is unclear. But federal documents indicate that the memo relates to the National Security Agency's Terrorist Surveillance Program, or TSP.

That program intercepted phone calls and e-mails on U.S. soil, bypassing the normal legal requirement that such eavesdropping be authorized by a secret federal court. The program began after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and continued until Jan. 17, 2007, when the White House resumed seeking surveillance warrants from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

White House spokesman Tony Fratto said Wednesday that the Fourth Amendment finding in the October memo was not the legal underpinning for the Terrorist Surveillance Program.

"TSP relied on a separate set of legal memoranda," Fratto told The Associated Press. The Justice Department outlined that legal framework in a January 2006 white paper issued by the Justice Department a month after the TSP was revealed by The New York Times.

The October memo was written just days before Bush administration officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, briefed four House and Senate leaders on the NSA's secret wiretapping program for the first time.

The government itself related the October memo to the TSP program when it included it on a list of documents that were responsive to the ACLU's request for records from the program. It refused to hand them over.

Late Wednesday, Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said department officials believe the October 2001 memo was not about the eavesdropping program, but he did not explain why it was included on requests for documents linked to the TSP.

Earlier, Roehrkasse said the statement in the footnote does not reflect the current view of the department's Office of Legal Counsel.

"We disagree with the proposition that the Fourth Amendment has no application to domestic military operations," he said. "Whether a particular search or seizure is reasonable under the Fourth Amendment requires consideration of the particular context and circumstances of the search."

Roehrkasse would not say exactly when that legal opinion was overturned internally. But he pointed to the January 2006 white paper.

"The white paper does not suggest in any way that the Fourth Amendment does not apply to domestic military activities, and that is not the position of the Office of Legal Counsel," he said.

Suzanne Spaulding, a national security law expert and former assistant general counsel at the CIA, said she found the Fourth Amendment reference in the footnote troubling, but added: "To know (the Justice Department) no longer thinks this is a legitimate statement is reassuring."

"The recent disclosures underscore the Bush administration's extraordinarily sweeping conception of executive power," said Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU's National Security Project. "The administration's lawyers believe the president should be permitted to violate statutory law, to violate international treaties and even to violate the Fourth Amendment inside the U.S. They believe that the president should be above the law."

"Each time one of these memos comes out you have to come up with a more extreme way to characterize it," Jaffer said.

The ACLU is challenging in court the government's withholding of the October 2001 memo.


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Mature Adult

Apr 24 2008, 9:00 am

This is a non story . Pass the hype please .

TCB...re: Beart

Apr 19 2008, 6:15 pm

P.S. You are guessing that I'm either gay or lesbian. That's brilliant. You don't even know whether I'm a guy or a gal, yet you have somehow concluded that I am either gay or lesbian. Sounds like you're a homophobe, and you know what they say about homophobes...most of them are just self hating homosexuals. Why do you hate yourself just for being a homosexual? Learn to ENJOY your natural homosexual inclinations, Beart.
By the way, I'm a heterosexual male. Sorry to disappoint you, big boy (or whatever you are). Stop hating yourself.

TCB...re: Beart

Apr 19 2008, 6:05 pm

Your post makes no sense. Do you think people are smart because they are racist? And why do you think that I am a racist? I won't argue with you thinking that I'm smart, but the racist thing has me puzzled, since it contradicts everything that I've posted so far. I believe this is another case of someone not reading my posts carefully. Why don't you go back and read what I wrote previously, instead of just skimming it over while you're baked, O.K., genius?

Beart

Apr 19 2008, 7:43 am

TCB

You sound like a real smart person. And you also sound racist. Why don't you become and "editor" of the English language. Maybe you're gay or lesbian.

Common Sense

Apr 12 2008, 7:31 am

lol , "they" sure do get around .

only?

Apr 11 2008, 5:42 pm

that's what they want you to think...

Common Sense

Apr 11 2008, 4:57 pm

The term "warrantless surveillance" is a just a term to fire you up . The correct term would be Terrosist Survellance Act . They only monitior calls to and from known terrosrist . If your not a terrorist , it doesn't apply .

Fuck Bush ?

Apr 10 2008, 3:46 pm

Why the hell would anybody want to do that ? .....retarded ?

FUCK BUSH

Apr 10 2008, 9:32 am

FUCK BUSH

umm

Apr 8 2008, 9:24 pm

Not to commercialize alaska, but I also heard that the oil the state sells is taxed, and that tax money is given to all the residents in alaska yearly. I think its around 1000.00 yearly. Hmm...Something to ponder. Sometimes I ponder on if I should go yonder. The thought makes me fonder. Hmm, I wonder:)

umm

Apr 8 2008, 9:21 pm

I am glad people are learning the truth. And I heard that you don't have to pay taxes in alaska, except a city tax if you are in one of the larger cities...just a pleasant thought...;)

TO FIGHT THE POWER

Apr 8 2008, 6:11 pm

YOU SOUND INFORMED ENOUGH, JUST LEARN TO SPELL OR PEOPLE WILL THINK YOU A FOOL.

AND YOUR RIGHT ABOUT INCOME TAX BEING ILLEGAL. THE INCOME TAX AMMENDMENT WAS NEVER RATIFIED BY THE STATES AFTER IT WAS INTRODUCED IN 1913, BUT THE GOVERNMENT PRETENDS LIKE IT WAS AND COLLECTS ILLEGALLY ON ALL THOSE TO STUPID TO KNOW BETTER.

fight the power

Apr 8 2008, 5:22 pm

you never see any of the money we pay in. it all gos to the federal reserve . the bigest thugs in america. taxs is what started the revolution in the first place, and are founding fathers made sure that if are goverment is surpresive we are to rise up and fire them or lockem up. or better yet hang them .we are a republic not the evil democracy they want u to belive. were a democracy 51% can take away the rights of the other 49,but a republic not even the 99% can take away the rights of the 1%.it is time if they want wars there kids first.before one more civilian goes all of theres kids will go first or get the hell out because we the poeple will kick you out..........fuck the goverment free the poeple .the only way anyone one of the presadent candates will get in is when the step over my rotting body.

fight the power

Apr 8 2008, 5:15 pm

did anyone here besides me know its illegale to tax labor and wages....... theres no law that says u have to pay.... and the constaution says it.

power

Apr 7 2008, 10:34 pm

the power any goverment has is its war powers and they can lock you up just for looking funny.i see it all the time they let murdering rapest out before they let a noviolnt smoker out.its true.they only way to see true change is to fire everyone in congress the sent,and white house.put the constation back in place and shot anyone spying on americans.by the goverments own defanition of terrisom ,they are the most prolifice and violant goverment ever to rule.there will be a time when true americans are hunted down because we refuse the rfid chip and the need for money.

ArmySoldier666

Apr 7 2008, 3:30 pm

FUCK PICKING A PRESIDENT. LETS GET RID OF THE GOVERNMENT AND ACTUALLY HAVE A COUNTRY RUN THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING THATS WHAT WE ARE. most Americans think drugs should stay illegal because they think drugs ruin lives. The truth is excessive drug use to the point where you cant function and stupidity combined ruin lives. Stupid people would do the same stupid things with out the drugs. The drugs just make them think their stupidity isn't stupidity,its GENIUS.

ArmySoldier666

Apr 7 2008, 3:26 pm

RE: ummm

I would love to have a world where we didn't have to have police at all and everyone just did their thing and we all helped make this world the best but no about 90% of this country wont do anything unless they benefit.

Vote 4 Ron Paul

Apr 7 2008, 3:26 pm

We will be going through a depression worse then the one we went through in the 1920's. This is because of the Feds, the continuel devaluation of the dollar, and our dollar not being backed by anything (worthless piece of paper that the goverment can conterfit by the billions continueing to devalue the dollar) and everytime they print a dollar the inflation goes up. The only person who dares talk about this is Ron Paul, NOT Hussien, Hitlery, or Mccain. Mccain admitted he doesn't know anything about the econmy just war. But he's much more of a better candidate to the news than Ron Paul why?

HU210

Apr 7 2008, 6:51 am

@umm
The mexicans dont think that they are cheap wages. Thats why they come north, to make good wages.
The real question remains. Why do mexicans pay mexicans such low wages?

TCB...re: umm

Apr 6 2008, 10:01 pm

I remember the days when you only had to put in your 2 cents worth, but now it's up to 7 cents. The value of the dollar really IS getting worse.

umm

Apr 6 2008, 9:46 pm

I know about the keeping on topic thing, but, its just that I've read so many times where people in these forums support increasing the police state to escalate our fear of border crashers. I didn't start that hatefull wish. I just thought I'd give my 7 cents, on my vision of an ideal world. An ideal world is what everone deserves, and settling for second best is giving up. Be optimistic. I could happen if everyone had that vision. Then we would have world peace.
:)

umm

Apr 6 2008, 9:39 pm

Not very nice. Politics make people think they have to have a boundry where their subserviant enemies must stay. Why must we have ememies? Why do "americans" pay people from mexico to do labor for very cheap wages? The reasons are clear. "americans" think they are better than everyone else, and that they deserve more then ALL other countries. I have news for you. We aren't. Lets spread what we have, and stop holding on to grain, and share, cause you know, if we need help from our neighbors, it would be nice to know that they would be there with opened arms.

ArmySoldier666

Apr 6 2008, 8:11 pm

RE: umm

what the fuck do fences and walls have to do with this article???

ArmySoldier666

Apr 6 2008, 8:10 pm

Re: Umm

Its called a foreign country and we kind of need a way to establish a border. Plus we need to keep illegal people out.Its sad when all people think is, "Fuck signing the papers and doing it right. Ill just jump the border and have a kid on their soil so they cant deport me.I can not pay taxes for my first six years and they will pay me for being a citizen.

umm

Apr 6 2008, 7:17 pm

The usa needs to tear down their wall. The fences they put up. Why must we need fences? Not very friendly.

zzz

Apr 6 2008, 12:46 pm

Down with the Muslim radicals!!!
Haha.

HU210

Apr 6 2008, 11:51 am

Anyone remember the cold war? This is the kind of stuff that the commie's did, using the same arguments.
The USA used to fight AGAINST this type of intrusion by government into the affairs of its citizens.

I sure feel safer now

ArmySoldier666

Apr 6 2008, 10:58 am

Plus what does any of the campaigning thats going on in this topic have to do with THE STORY. We cant let our gestapo government take away our privacy. Fuck the patriot act and fuck any warrantless searches,seizures,wiretaps,
surveilance,etc. Its just an excuse to brazenly throw away a constitutional amendment that we should have as Americans. Our founding fathers started this country with freedom in mind and now the only thing on the minds of our presidents and potential candidates is money,power,and oil. Our country will fall apart soon enough and we will topple like a house of cards. Vote for who you choose because it wont matter in the end.

ArmySoldier666

Apr 6 2008, 10:45 am

This is one of the worst topics to debate about because everyone has their own personal opinion. Everyone is going to vote for who they want and in the end we will have a new president and you can all argue about the new presidents actions and statements instead of stupid shit like what "Hussein" means or if "Obama" is racist. Why don't we all just sit around and argue about religion? We would get about as far as politics go.

Suggs4Drugs

Apr 5 2008, 6:12 pm

Damn, TCB just fucking told all of you, haha.

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 5 2008, 5:26 pm

i'm voting for Obama obvously, he's the best for the new world order, in my eyes. He voted against Iraq, but voted to invade Iran not b/c he knew we were going into Iraq alrady. I like how he lies to public, i think he's almost as good as his cousins. So deff. Hussein

TCB...re: Vote 4 Obama

Apr 5 2008, 3:58 pm

Well, we all have some twisted and/or evil relatives, cousins or otherwise. The more distant, the better.
By the way, it's spelled "Hussein", and he didn't vote for the Iraq war. Why don't you drop the sarcasm and tell us what you REALLY think? Who do YOU plan to vote for? I'd guess McCain, in your case, because your post smells like conservative, Republican thinking, plus you're trashing Bush and Cheney (which you spelled wrong), and that's what Republicans want to do at this point, throw Bush under the bus so they can build up their next guy as better than the fuck ups in the Bush administration. I'll bet Karl Rove is your personal hero. Or maybe you're really 'Vote 4 Ron Paul', and that's who you're voting for. It's hard to tell, because your posts never make any sense.

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 5 2008, 9:23 am

Tcb you tell em! Saddam Hussien (good/beautiful) Barack Hussien (good/beautiful). But you have to remember he's cousins with the greatest dictator in the world George Bush, and he's also family with Dick Channey! So were can we go wrong? Obama votes for everything Bush forces on us. I LOVE HUSSIEN!

TCB...re: kystoner

Apr 5 2008, 3:26 am

Here is your exact post:

"think about it, you people want a president with a middle name of hussien
DUMB ASS"

In answer to your question:
No, I want a president with the middle name "Hussein". You see, you spelled his name wrong. PLUS, you didn't capitalize it. You also forgot the question mark at the end. Or maybe you intended it as a statement, which would explain why you left out the word "do" before the phrase "you people want...". Kind of gives it a whole new meaning, and probably true, considering the polls. Also, the first word in the sentence should be capitalized.
My favorite part is the way you signed off at the end as "DUMB ASS". But tell me, why do you capitalize your name, DUMB ASS? Probably an ego thing, huh? At least you can make SOMETHING big. Maybe you should use more KY jelly...wait, that IS what your handle means, right? K.Y. Stoner? I think I'd prefer to call you "DUMB ASS". It just suits you better. But you must have terrible self esteem problems to be calling yourself "DUMB ASS". I'd recommend a good psychiatrist.
Anyway, good bye, DUMB ASS...

Sincerely, TCB

P.S. The name "Hussein" means something like "The good, beautiful one". You can probably Google it, if you're interested. Just make sure you spell it right, O.K., Einstein?

TCB...re: sirsmokesalot

Apr 5 2008, 2:11 am

You should change your name to sirsmokestoomuch...your racist nature is spilling out into your posts. The "watermelon stand" comment was a nice touch. Do they sell fried chicken at this watermelon stand that exists inside of your thick, racist head? The best part was how you spelled "naive" incorrectly. What classic irony, considering your statement. Look up "naive" in the dictionary, you might see a picture of yourself. If your picture's not there, try looking up "stupid" or "racist". Also, isn't "asslickers" supposed to be two words? Plus, you spelled "muslim" and "Democratic" incorrectly.
I'm going to have to give you an "F" on this little essay of yours. I'll let you figure out what the "F" stands for in this case. Here's a hint: it doesn't stand for "Facts", since there weren't any in your post.

obma yo mama posters

Apr 4 2008, 6:07 pm

Go to drug policy news and post on obma: decriminalize 1-31-2008

Common Sense to 4 obama

Apr 4 2008, 3:25 pm

you're a nut .
Terrostist Surveilance Act .
You a terrorist or something ?

hmm

Apr 4 2008, 10:31 am

Never give up your rights to a "de-ranged" govmt. Just say NO cause it ain't protecting us. They have already taken many of your rights away and you don't even know it.

How many of you people are more afraid of the police or DEA then another terror attack?

I rest my case.

peacetime vet

Apr 4 2008, 8:52 am

Riddle me this who do you get a hold of when you locate a spent heat round load and a unspent heat round load I said it 20 years ago and I say it still to this day its only blue spray paint Inert or otherwise

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 4 2008, 8:19 am

Exactly allow the goverment to watch us, listen to our phone calls, and use our cell phones as wires even when there off. The goverment knew that 9/11 was going to happen, so did Alex Jones, Aaron Russo (admitted by many people in gov't). But who cares! We needed that to happen so we can invade Iraq, even though they had nothing to do with it. Nice thinkin Common Sense!

Common Sense

Apr 4 2008, 6:45 am

Drastic times call for drastic measures .I don't have a problem with the Terrorist Surveillance Act .
All this hype about our rights being taken away puzzles me seeing as a shit load of stupid people blamed the government for not knowing in advance about 911 . Now you bitch because they're trying to give you what you indicated you wanted . Be careful what you wish for .....

HU210

Apr 4 2008, 6:44 am

U.S Marijuana Party.
Check it out.

~~imhigh~~

Apr 4 2008, 12:09 am

the way i see it, any president will be better than our current dipshit. i'm cautiously awaiting the revolution after bush declares himself glorious leader for life in 2009. sic semper tyrannis.

Slater

Apr 3 2008, 9:17 pm

Dude, your a complete dumbshit if you think that by having a name that isnt considered "Normal", your not good enough to be president.
You cant help what your name is.

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 3 2008, 8:46 pm

Who cares if his middle name is Hussien. He's apart cousins with Bush (greatest president of all time), Channey (greatest VP of all time) and John Kerry. He keeps the American people from the truth about the on comming depression that Donald Trump says its going to be worse than the 1920's depression caused by the Feds. We don't want to hear that shit, thats why i say fuck Ron Paul he is too truthfull, and doesn't lie. We need a president like Bush who's good at lieing

kystoner

Apr 3 2008, 8:42 pm

think about it, you people want a president with a middle name of hussien
DUMB ASS

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 3 2008, 8:42 pm

voted for funding Iraq war, voted to invade Iran, Voted for the Patriot Act, Wants a North American Union, George Bush's (greatest president of all time) cousin, Dick Channey's (Greatest VP of all time) cousin. A True patriot, doesn't think Americans should have as much freedom as ron paul (BOOOO) wants us to have (fuck ron Paul) we don't need freedom we need to be watched if your a true patriot, for the north american union. And to the people that don't like it go move to Canada, we'll all be combined anyways, LETS GO OBAMA!

Vote 4 Ron Paul

Apr 3 2008, 8:33 pm

Your an idiot, Huckabeetle wanted a fair tax you moron, Ron Paul doesn't. He doesn't even want a income tax.

Suggs4Drugs

Apr 3 2008, 8:07 pm

Wow, its nice to see that there are other like minded people out there. I back what GW420 said 200%.

G. Washington 420

Apr 3 2008, 7:12 pm

To McCain supporters: I liked McCain, but not anymore. The only thing he has going for him is his image. America owes McCain a debt of gratitude for his service in the military, but we do not owe him a presidency, especially one that will so closely mirror Bush's. As the person said above, McCain will have time to build his brand until the presidential debates happen, but when they do, he will be smoked by Obama ala JFK / Nixon.

Obama is the only real canidate this election. His economic policies will be reminiscent of Clinton's during our 90's boom, with more regulation to bring us out of our Republican caused recession. He will get us out of Iraq in a timely fashion and actually wage an effective war on terrorism. For the naysayers and willfully ignorant critics: he is not a secret Muslim, he doesn't have to wear a flag pin to be patriotic, and his preacher has said nothing worse then any of McCain's bible banging end of times religous advisors.

In short, I can't wait for the real race to begin, to see McCain get crushed when we get to see actual policies being debated, and not media driven narratives on the contender's images.

Legalize it,
George Washington 420

G. Washington 420

Apr 3 2008, 7:11 pm

Man, when did High Times readers become so politically active (if not misinformed...)? Basically, this memo shows what any casually observer has known for years; that the Bush administration has consistently disregarded international law as well as our own constitution for the past 8 years. It's not as if 9/11 is even an appropriate excuse for anything he has done - TIA (Total Information Awareness) was nixxed during the Clinton admin., but Bush and Ashcroft decided to bring it before 9/11. After 9/11, the name was changed to Terrorist Information Awareness, but the M.O.
remains the same: illegal spying on American citizens. Unless a miracle happens and Bushco is held accountable by impeachment, we still have one more year of this asshole in power (party on Pennsylvania Ave. Jan 20th, 2009 anybody?).

To Ron Paul supporters: come on, serriously. Yea, he has a few good ideas (legalize it), but he has zero chance anymore of gaining the nomination (McCain will at most face a slap on the wrist for his FEC violations; face it, he is the nominee). Besides, would RP be good for America? Railing against a beuracracy gone bad certainly makes a good sound bite, but it seems we have gotten into this economic downturn as a result of the extreme deregulation of major industries by the Repubs, namely the banking system (avoidable sub-prime meltdown anybody?). Not only would RP completely rid us of market regulation, he would eliminate the IRS and enact a "Fair Tax". Look up criticisms of the Fair Tax, and you will see a 30% tax on everything you buy is a bad idea. In any case, RP is out.

To Hil Dog supporters: stop it. Obama leads in every metric for the Dem nominee, and aside from a super delegate mutiny, she will not make it. Besides, who really wants Clinton II in office? (We have seen how Bush round II turned out).

KINDER

Apr 3 2008, 7:05 pm

Don't let OLD GLORY slap you on the ass on the way out.
BYE!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK OBAMA

Apr 3 2008, 6:55 pm

if obama becomes president im moving my white ass to canada so all the black can revolt and turn me to a slave FUCK THAT!

kinder

Apr 3 2008, 6:43 pm

to sir smokes alot:
Just wondering, could you run a watermelon stand?

HU210

Apr 3 2008, 6:10 pm

"The administration stressed Wednesday that it now disavowes that view"
Until when? The next emergency? Are drugs emergency enough?
Seems to have been excuse enough to erode/usurp to 4th Amend almost out of existance the last 25 years for sure!

HU210

Apr 3 2008, 6:03 pm

Steve kubby/Jack Herer for President 2008
Write them in!!

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 3 2008, 6:02 pm

Ron Paul is just as clueless as Donald Trump, they both think America is going to through a worse depression than in the 1920's. Don't research it, just believe me. Ron Paul is the same guy who wants to get rid of the IRS and income tax, and reduce the powers of the FEDS. Lol WHAT A CRAZY LOL. Don't look it up for yourself, just believe me.

sirsmokesalot

Apr 3 2008, 5:59 pm

Osama hussein bin-laden Obama is a musslim terrorist asshole in sheeps clothing !and We the People , the real Americans , WILL NEVER FORGET , if you liberal democratis musslim lovers put that waste of skin in the most powerful office in the world, and if he does get there you can kiss this country and your ass goodbye. You Dems. are stupid nieve asslickers hell bent on destroying this country. That man couldn't run a watermelon stand.

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 3 2008, 5:46 pm

We need a fresh new cousin of George Bush, Dick Channey, and John Kerry. He's a fresh new look. LOL Ron Paul doesn't his economics !! He knows nothing, Obama does! Lets go Hussien!!

vote4obama is a dumbass

Apr 3 2008, 4:39 pm

Hey its cool if u need ur parents to tell you what to do and what to watch and make your every move go ahead but don't tell us that its better for us to have a "big brother" looking over our shoulders and saying what we can and can't do I got parents for that and they raised me very well and I know right from wrong I don't need a gov't that'll put a chip in me and go its for ur protection. So dude go suck your parents dick cuz unlike u we are grown ups and we know how to make a decision. Douchebag. Ron paul rules

Suggs4Drugs

Apr 3 2008, 4:37 pm

You dont have to like Obama, cuz whether you do or dont, the fact is, is that he will be the next president. And your just a plain dumbfuck if you dont beleive this. Theres no way Clinton can catch up to him when it comes to Super Delegates, and he has the popular vote. And McCain, gee, do I want a fresh new, smart black man, or an old white guy that knows nothing about the Economy and will probably die while in office. As soon as Obama takes the Democrat election, and trust me, he will. When he has to debate McCain, he will make McCain look like an old Dinosaur.
And to those who call Obama a racist, your a fucking idiot, hes black, most of the people who run his campaign are white, so why the fuck would he have white people helping him if he was racist?

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 3 2008, 3:40 pm

Don't LISTEN TO BY THE WAY! RON PAUL CAN'T WIN:
1st of he's crazy he wants to end income tax, the CIA, He wants to END THE WAR??? He wants all our troops from around the world home, how are we going to control other nations! He is against nation building and he's against a one world goverment, against the CFR, against goverment hes AN ANARCHIST. Our goverment worked so hard to repeal our natural rights and admendments by 9/11 if you want to see another 9/11 go vote for Ron Paul. Simple as that.

by the way...

Apr 3 2008, 3:34 pm

Ron Paul IS still running and if McCain gets properly punished for overspending on his FEC budget he will be disqualified from the presidential race and make Ron Paul the only remaining candidate on the republican slate.

so there is still a chance for a Ron Paul presidency.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO RON PAUL IS OR WHAT HE BELIEVES, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU, BUT I'LL ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF BY VISITING HIS WEBSITE: ronpaul2008.com

hey dumbass,

Apr 3 2008, 3:29 pm

some people believe in a right to personal privacy.

vote4obama is

Apr 3 2008, 3:27 pm

delusional.

if you don't like freedom, there are plenty of shitty freedom hating countries you would fit right into.

get the fuck out of america if you don't like freedom.

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 3 2008, 3:19 pm

Who cares if the goverment can spy on us its for our own good, it will protect us. Obama wants to protect us, not let us make bad choices to use drugs. Ron Paul wants to minimize goverment, TOO MUCH FREEDOM IS NOT GOOD FOR US!

Vote 4 Ron Paul

Apr 3 2008, 3:16 pm

Dr. Paul voted against the patriot act 1 and 2 and the Victory act 1 and 2. Obama did not.

Ron Paul is a TRUE PATRIOT

obama is a racist

Apr 3 2008, 3:13 pm

obama is a fake.

obama is a muslim raised moron.

obama can suck these nuts.

and while i'm here, fuck hitlery too.

democrats only have two choices:

the boob with two nuts, or the nut with two boobs.

Vote 4 Obama

Apr 3 2008, 3:04 pm

Obama voted yes for the patriot.

Obama a true patriot.

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