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Wed, Jun 04, 2008 6:43 pm

more: conspiracy, headline news, privacy

"While there have been shifting reports about McCain's view on warrantless wiretapping, nothing could be clearer than the latest comment by McCain adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin, who said, 'We do not know what lies ahead in our nation's fight against radical Islamic extremists, but John McCain will do everything he can to protect Americans from such threats, including asking the telecoms for appropriate assistance to collect intelligence against foreign threats to the United States as authorized by Article II of the Constitution.' Article II, of course, is what Bush has argued gives the President virtually unlimited power during war, and McCain has already voted in favor of Telecom Immunity, though he sometimes mentions wanting to holding hearings about what the telecoms did to those asking for accountability."

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Mature Adult

Jul 12 2008, 5:51 am

" McCain supports warranttless domestic surveillamce"
interesting .. thats not the actual term .
As of yesterday OBAMA is "for" it also ........... no shouts of outrage?.......didn't think so .........

to below

Jul 6 2008, 5:55 am

The rules ARE very clear . The possibility of abuse is no more a factor than with anything else .
The people complaining about this are the same people who bitched about not knowing about 911 and all the shit that came with it . You can't have it both ways . ...Unless they just want to bitch , and if thats the case , nothing will satisfy anyway . Don't give any merit to bullshit that doesn't deserve it .

grey Alien

Jul 5 2008, 1:37 pm

I worry about possible ramifications. the possibility for the Goverment to abuse thier powers. the rules need to be very clear.

umm

Jun 19 2008, 12:35 am

We need to keep haters out of office, because policies made by them aren't in the best interst of the American people anyway. mccain IS a hater, and shouldn't even be on tyhe news. His views are sikening, as they ARE based on hate.

kinder

Jun 17 2008, 4:04 pm

To sirsmokesalot:
Once again your breathing problem is such a downer, seek
help!!!!!
AND PLEASE DON'T REPRODUCE, THE PLANET HAS ENUFF ROCKS AND
OTHER USELESS THINGS.
PS YOU BETTER HURRY NOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THE
RALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TropicalBrainForest

Jun 14 2008, 11:24 am

I believe it was the great Benjamin Franklin who said something like "Those who would give up civil liberties for safety deserve neither."

Also, to those of us who make particular phone calls or texts on occasion, be careful about what phone company you use. Some companies will whore your phone records out to the government with no probable cause at all.

sirsmokesalot

Jun 13 2008, 8:33 pm

I would rather have Mcain listening to people talking to terrorists than putting one in the white house.
Barrack Husein Osama Obama Bin Laden is a black muslim terrorist asshole. All yo ignorant democrates better wake up because the day AFTER YOU VOTE IN A BLACK MUSLIM TERRORIST ASSHOLE IT WILL BE TOO LATE.

Pistol

Jun 11 2008, 8:08 am

Just look at AZ and think U S A next.now go vote

Ezra Banks

Jun 11 2008, 7:30 am

"McCain supports warrantless domestic surveillance " ?
Thats not true and is stupid .
I recently saw another stupid headline that said:
"McCain is against Child Safety "
It was another special interest group trying to take away our right to own firearms .
What ever happened to responsible journalism ?

and for all you people fixing to say "its people like you that blah blah blah " keep this in mind : I make the same starements when Obama or anyone else is hyped out of reason .

Know it BEFORE you blow it ! If it sounds stupid , it probaly is .

to john

Jun 10 2008, 7:42 am

You're attempt at getting someone to yell at you is duely noted .

john

Jun 10 2008, 7:35 am

mc cain is a senseless son of a bitch,the same goes to the american public and the american government. nobody wants war but the stupid bitches vote for mc cain and second...all the shit they talk about freedom and liberties,there are no freedom or liberties in this nation ,just oppression.

Jun 10 2008, 4:54 am

bottomline . If you live in the usa and are making phone calls to terrorists you should be fucked .

Jun 10 2008, 2:43 am

Bottom line,. . . if you live in the USA, your basically fu*ked

to below

Jun 9 2008, 6:01 am

Slater :
"Hey Dumbshit "...

"So don't fucking come on here telling us shit we don't already know "...

"and to the little jitt" ...

"and fuck you t-bone " ...

"YOU GUYS GET DEFENSIVE " ... ya reckon ?

and finally .."i can back up anything I say " ... hasn't been demonstrated .

Slater

Jun 8 2008, 10:38 pm

I honestly think that American's would rather vote for the Drug Lord from the Juarez Cartel then vote for John McCain.
The Drug Lord would probably legalize, and he could probably briing America out of these hard times and kill off some oil people so we could get cheaper oil. John has been in the Senate for A VERY LONG TIME, its his fault we're in this mess to begin with.
Hillary dropped out the other day!
Thank god, fuck that wide ass bitch.

Fatty!!!!

Jun 8 2008, 9:53 pm

I may have respected John McCain when he was a POW, but now he is just another piece of Washington garbage! The Bush policies will go on for another four years if he gets elected. Police will continue their illegal raids. He will make sure the DEA has full access for spying on Americans, just like they do know. He is no different than Bush! McCain used to be a caring human, but now he is just an evil puppet that George Bush can dangle anyway he wants. Getting Marijuana legalized will never happen if he gets in! That is a fact!

kinder

Jun 8 2008, 7:17 pm

When John McCain looks in the mirror, all he can see is,George W Bush. Over time John, has sold out to, Big Oil.
Can this country take much more of this Nazi rule?
George W Bush is an oil man and the price of gas is thru
the roof and going higher. The Vice President, yep he's an oil man too!
Now guess who's get n paid?

umm

Jun 8 2008, 3:47 pm

My sincerest love goes out to the lovers of the greenery. Perhaps, next year we will be more freery;)

Slater

Jun 8 2008, 12:21 pm

I can back up everythign I say, I dont just go around spewing bullshit on my favorite site.
You guys get all defensive and shit,
we're all just stating facts, just being nonchalant.
Chill out.
Heres the link where McCain said that he would arrest MMJ, so I guess you didnt research it to hard, because like I said, I try not to research him to much, but even I know that.
http://granitestaters.com/candidates/john_mccain.html

Reality Check

Jun 8 2008, 7:28 am

If you go to "Medical Marijuana ProCon.org" you will find the candidates positions on the issue IN THEIR OWN WORDS .
McCain has never made the statement attributed to him by Slater .

"I try not to research McCain" pretty much says it all .

by the way ..Obama : "the likelihood of that being high on my list is not likely " ..... so much for the "vow" and the "pledge" and all the other hype floating around.

I don't believe McCain is the right man for the job either but that doesn't warrant making stupid assertions and acting like a dumbass about it .
Hang in there , theres plenty of people who you can depend on to tell you what you're supposed to think .

I prefer the facts ..makes it much easier .

hey slater

Jun 8 2008, 5:10 am

when did McCain say that ? Or maybe I should say , where did you hear about McCain making that statement .
For real , I'd like to check that out because I can't find that statement anywhere . Not what somebody claims he said but the actual statement .

Slater

Jun 7 2008, 5:48 pm

McCain can suck my dick.
Whether he fought in the war or not,
he wont recieve a gram of respect after he said he would imprison MMJ users for using their medicine because it was against federal law.
Fuck McCain,
fuck Prohibition,
and fuck you TBone.

tboned

Jun 7 2008, 4:54 pm

I don't beleive in McCain's policies or Bush,what's with the bull about his dad paying his captors[vietcong&n.vietnamese&others]have any of you really read or seen documentaries on pows of 'nam,The man fought for our country as did others,whether you agree or not with the reasons..SHOW SOME FUCKING RESPECT!

kinder

Jun 6 2008, 8:27 am

JUNE 6,1944 REMEMBER?

RE: who ???

Jun 6 2008, 8:19 am

Why would you call outside the USA to buy weed ? Thats what FISA is all about . Calls made TO known terrorist numbers FROM inside our borders .
You're trying to hard .

Reality Check to who

Jun 6 2008, 8:03 am

You should look it up . Then you will understand exactly what its all about . The scenario you depict is far fetched and based on very little facts .

to below

Jun 6 2008, 4:29 am

How many people have been busted for weed through the FISA
program ?
Answer : 0

you are paranoid

who??????

Jun 6 2008, 1:18 am

the gov tap's the lines for terror suspects.... ok we know that, well if the government wants to think that selling supports that terror groups, then in there mind any buyer, seller and grower are prime suspect to watch and tap their lines

Libertarian 4 Legal Weed

Jun 5 2008, 9:31 pm

Vote for Bob Barr. He's for MJ legalization and wants to kill the patriot act (true, he did vote for it, but the Bush Nazis lied to everybody about what they were going to do with their patriot act powers)

The Libertarian party is only on the ballot in 28 states at the moment. Go to the Ballot Initiative - http://www.lp.org/index_ba08.html and see what the status is for your state.

The 2 party system is totally broken. Our only hope for legalization is voting Libertarians into office at all levels of government.

Yea But

Jun 5 2008, 6:25 pm

What about the aliens.

jitt

Jun 5 2008, 5:56 pm

where does the constitution say terrorists communications can't be monitored ?

Slater

Jun 5 2008, 5:50 pm

I dont have time to adress everything.
To below, Stuff is reffering to how John's dad had payed to get him out, but he stayed with his fellow inmates, so his dad just payed them off so he could live better there.
Im not realy sure how true that is, I try not to research McCain.
And to the little jitt who is trying to tell me up,
they dont have the right due to constitutional rights.

stuff

Jun 5 2008, 5:49 pm

its true believe it or not .
Also McCain and Obama are the same person . For real !!!
Notice how you don't see Obama at McCains fund raisers and vice versa .
So , if you vote for Obama its really going to McCain and if you vote for McCain its really going to Obama , which is really McCain , who is also Obama . Quite simple really .

to below

Jun 5 2008, 5:31 pm

Huh ?

stuff

Jun 5 2008, 5:11 pm

"Man fuck John McCain and his old ass.
He should have died when he was a prisoner. "

Don't you mean
"Man fuck John McCain and his old ass.
He should have died while he was being treated like royalty and his dad was paying them"

Reality Check

Jun 5 2008, 4:22 pm

On yes , by the way

"don't come on here telling us shit we don't already know" implies that you didn't know . Thought I'd clear that up for you .

Reality Check to Child

Jun 5 2008, 4:10 pm

I'll assume you're aiming those childish trivial remarks at me , and respond .

"yea we know how it fuckin works " .. doesn't sound like it .

"so don't come on here trying to tell us shit we don't already know " ?...? why not ? You have a problem with reality ?

"The fact is: the gov shouldn't be aloud to listen in on our shit reguardless of wether or not they think we're terrorists " ? ...Thats a fact ? Says who ?

The fact is , they aren't "aloud" and don't listen in on your "shit" unless your calling known terrorists .Thats what triggers the surveillance . So if your calling known terrorists , then fuck you anyway .

READ A BOOK

Slater

Jun 5 2008, 3:43 pm

Hey dumbshit,
yeah we know how it fuckin works.
Its just NOT RIGHT for the US Gov to do this to the people.
So dont fucking come on here trying to tell us shit we dont already know.
The fact is: The Gov shouldnt be aloud to listen in on our shit, reguardless of whether or not they think we're terrorist.

Reality Check

Jun 5 2008, 3:19 pm

"Warrantless Domestic Surveillance " is the hype term .
The actual name of this program is "FISA" which stands for
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and monitors known terrorists communication lines . It is also designed to go after these transmissions on a case to case basis depending on the urgency . IE: a warrant is obtained unless the urgency requires action without one .

No innocent citizen has ever been arrested or prosecuted from any info obtained under the FISA program .
And no , McCain isn't for domestic warrantless surveillance .
And no , your garden won't be raided unless your running your mouth anyway .

what?

Jun 5 2008, 11:55 am

HRC will have BHO killed before the general election. Just wait and see. Then the Clintons can take over again.

Both parties are the same ole crap even though they have made you think that they are different.

Vote Barr/Root ...the party the has the word Liberty in there.

Rational Thinker

Jun 5 2008, 7:15 am

Yea , and you goofs need to pay attention to the ignorance you're spewing . Some of us think thats how Bush was elected the second time . Because you retards decided to help but only shot yourselves in the foot .

hint : rational people know irrational when the hear it .

Jun 5 2008, 5:31 am

McCain isn't the guy for the job .
His stance on MOST of the issues are not what you people claim either .
And as far as the Patriot Act , if a terrorist gets through and accomplishes another attack on our soil , you people will be the first ones crying about it . Failed to know . failed to protect , failed to prevent and was in on it .
You don't know what it takes to accomplish what you all bitch about .
McCain for President ? People were wrong about Bush twice ...................

Seth

Jun 5 2008, 3:44 am

fuck McCain! He is a liar and is worse than Bush!

Ron Paul '08 baby! Legalize the greenery, get rid of the stupid tax system that fucks us up, stop borrowing money from other countries to not get in debt by the day anymore, stop printing out money out of thin air, right to bear arms, etc.!

Ron Paul '08!

TCB

Jun 5 2008, 2:07 am

Republicans like McCain are the real terrorists. They terrorize us with fear. They destroy our rights and our privacy. Vote for Obama. Vote for Democratic Senators and Congressmen (and women). Once they are in, tell them what you want, and don't stop telling them. We need to reinstate the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There are going to be 2 or 3 Supreme Court openings in the next 4 to 8 years. We cannot allow the Republican party to nominate the next members of the Supreme Court. The United States of America is dead...only We The People can resurrect it.

marleys ghost

Jun 5 2008, 12:55 am

i dont know if yall noticed by now, but we havent been living in anyplace remotely called america for the last 7 years.

ArmySoldier666

Jun 5 2008, 12:17 am

I agree with wake. Its not that we want the terrorist to not be watched but as Americans we have rights. Men have died just so we can vote and see a judge before we are condemned guilty. Letting them tap whoever for whatever is bullshit and is just like putting cameras in everyones house to make sure they don't do ANYTHING wrong. We need to stop being scared and put a stop to this intolerant asshole gestapo government that thinks taking away all of our rights will stop terrorist. Look up the patriot act and tell me im wrong.

Slaterlater

Jun 4 2008, 10:45 pm

McCain is a Hater.
They say that buying pot supports terrorism.
HAHA!
Seeing how my lady neighbor grows it, and sells it to me to help pay her bills because she was in a car accident and the insurence doesnt want to pay her the money they owe her, Im pretty sure my money helps the American people, not the terrorist who recieve their money from the CIA...

Houstoned

Jun 4 2008, 9:38 pm

this is what is to be expected nowadays. it just sucks that our government wants to stoop this low in their "war on terrorism" and they call us stoners terrorists by the way.

umm

Jun 4 2008, 8:53 pm

mccain also supports war in iraq indefinitely, and arresting medical marijuana patients. mccain hates people. He refuses to talk with leaders of cuba. He'd much rather keep letting the cubans starve with the usa imposed sanctions. mccain is not a nice man, nor is he intelligent. mccain is a hater. A vote for mccain is a vote for more war on everyone. A vote for mccain is insane.

Wake up man

Jun 4 2008, 8:17 pm

Here is what the big deal is...

There is already a system in place for them to do this shit - it's called see a judge and get a fucking warrant.

No one is saying 'don't tap terrorist phones' - the big deal is that they are tapping _EVERYONES_ phones and deciding what to do with you based on that.

We have rights, we have privacy and we are innocent until proven guilty - fuck them for fucking with my rights. And if you are too scared to appreciate what those rights mean, then you don't deserve them and you are not a good American.

Another thing - you set a precident when you willingly give away rights that good men have died to give you. If they take away or modify our constitional rights now, then the door is open to erode our rights even further in the future.

thats cool

Jun 4 2008, 8:07 pm

I dont see a problem with letting the government prone communication terminals for terrorist activity. Unless smoking pot classifies me as a terrorist, I dont see what all the fuss is about.

ItsaweedhackerVern!

Jun 4 2008, 7:54 pm

you said it man!what a dick

Slater

Jun 4 2008, 7:10 pm

Man fuck John McCain and his old ass.
He should have died when he was a prisoner.

Mature Adult

Jun 4 2008, 6:59 pm

Its a shame what the world has come to .
Its a shame these tactics are required .