What Will the Candidates Do to End the Unwinnable War on Drugs?
Tue, Aug 12, 2008 12:02 pm
Source: huffingtonpost.com
On January 20th 2009, either the president of the United States will be a man who used to snort coke to ease his blues, or the First Lady will be a former drug addict who stole from charity to get her next fix. In this presidential campaign, there are dozens of issues that have failed to flicker into the debate, but the most striking is the failing, flailing 'War on Drugs.' Isn't it a sign of how unwinnable this 'war' is that, if it was actually enforced evenly, either Barack Obama or Cindy McCain would have to skip the inauguration -- because they'd be in jail?
At least their time in the slammer would feature some familiar faces: they could share a cell with Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and some 46 percent of the US population.
The prohibition of drugs is perhaps the most disastrous policy currently pursued by the US government. It hands a vast industry to armed criminal gangs, who proceed to kill at least excess 10,000 citizens a year to protect their patches. It exports this programme of mass slaughter to Mexico, Colombia and beyond. It has been a key factor in reviving the Taliban in Afghanistan. It squanders tens of billions of dollars on prisons at home, ensuring that one in 31 adults in the US now in prison or on supervised release at any one time. And it has destroyed an entire generation of black men, who are now more likely to go to prison for drug offences than to go to university.
And for what? Prohibition doesn't stop people using drugs. Between 1972 and 1978, eleven US states decriminalized marijuana possession. So did hundreds of thousands of people rush out to smoke the now-legal weed? The National Research Council found that it had no effect on the number of dope-smokers. None. The people who had always liked it carried on; the people who didn't felt no sudden urge to start.
So where's the debate? The candidates have spent more time discussing froth and fancies -- how much air is in your tyres? -- than this $40bn-a-year 'war."
They should be forced to listen to Michael Levine, who had a thirty year career as one of America's most distinguished federal narcotics agents. In his time, he infiltrated some of the biggest drugs cartels in the world -- and he now explains, in sad tones, that he wasted his time. In the early 1990s, he was assigned to eradicate drug-dealing from one New York street corner -- an easy enough task, surely? But he quickly learned that even this was physically impossible, given the huge demand for drugs. He calculated that he would need one thousand officers to be working on that corner for six months to make an impact -- and there were only 250 drugs agents in the whole city. One of the residents asked him, "If all these cops and agents couldn't get this one corner clean, what's the point of this whole damned drug war?"
When Levine penetrated to the very top of la Mafia Cruenza, one of the biggest drug-dealing gangs in the world, he learned, as he puts it, "that not only did they not fear our war on drugs, they actually counted on it... On one undercover tape-recorded conversation, a top cartel chief, Jorge Roman, expressed his gratitude for the drug war, calling it 'a sham put on the American tax-payer' that was 'actually good for business'." He was right -- prohibition is the dealer's friend. They depend on it. They thrive on it, just as Al Capone thrived on alcohol prohibition. When Levine recounted these comments to his boss -- the officer in command of the paramilitary operation attacking South America -- he replied, "Yeah, we know [the police and military battles against drug gangs] don't work, but we sold the plan up and down the Potomac."
Yet virtually no politicians are exposing this scandal. A rare and heroic exception is Jim Webb, Senator for Virginia. In his brilliant new book Born Fighting, he says "the hugely expensive antidrug campaigns we are waging around the world are basically futile." He even goes further, and exposes how this intersects with racism to create a monstrous injustice. The ACLU found in 2006 that although the races use drugs at the same rate, black Americans -- who comprise 12 percent of the population -- make up 74 percent of all drug offenders sentenced to prison.
Webb shows the human cost: "Even as I write these words, it is virtually certain that somewhere on the streets of Washington D.C. an eighteen year-old white kid from the Maryland or North Virginia suburbs is buying a stash of drugs from an eighteen year-old black kid. The white kid is going to take that stash back to the suburbs and make some quick money by selling it to other kids." He will grow up and grow out of it, and one day -- as a wealthy professional -- he will "look back on his drug use just as recreational and joke about it... just one more little rebellion on the way to adulthood."
But the black kid "will enter a hell from which he may never recover." He is likely to be arrested, and to go to prison. "Prison life will change the black kid, harden him, mess up his mind, and redefine his self-image. And after he is released from prison, the black kid will be dragging an invisible ball and chain behind him for the rest of his life... By the time the white kid reaches fifty years of age, he may well be a judge. By the time the black kid reaches fifty, he will likely be permanently unemployable, will be ineligible for many government assistance programmes, and will not even be able to vote." Barack Obama only narrowly missed this fate. He would not be the Great Black Hope he deserves to be; he wouldn't even be allowed to cast a ballot in 2008.
Of course, ending drug prohibition may seem impossible now. But in 1924, even as vociferous a wet as Clarence Darrow was in despair, writing that it would require "a political revolution" to legalise alcohol in the US. Within a decade, it was done.
Before this campaign is out, Obama needs to be asked: do you really think you should be in jail? McCain needs to be asked: do you really think your wife should be in jail? Both need to be asked: do you really think 46 percent of Americans should be criminalized? And if not, what are you going to do to begin ending this mad, unwinnable 'war on drugs'?










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Hey, 420='s guy
Dec 7 2008, 3:52 am
wake up
Dec 2 2008, 11:17 pm
Second the war on marijuana will end as soon as the majority of americans who smoke pot or have at one time, and see no problem with the plant stand together on this idea and say cut the shit legalize it. Im not for sure if the statistic i read was right or not but its said that 60 percent or so of the american population smoke pot on a regular basis another 20 percent or so say they have tried it at least once. Its like people forget this country is a democracy or at least its supposed to be, and if it truley is the if the majority of the american populous wants it legalized then we should get what we want. Our government works for us not the other way around they are not our parents if we wanna smoke marijuana then we can if you dont wanna smoke pot then dont. The majority of americans know the truth that marijuana does not make people go crazy and kill bus loads of orphans. And we know its not adictive, its not as dangerous as alcohol. Dont get me wrong i like beer, vodka u name it, but if anything alcohol should be illegal and marijuana should not. Well im done ranting but the point being is "hey congress cut the shit and legalize it".
420=Sanity
Nov 14 2008, 8:52 am
First off: PoliceOfficer - I'm a pothead...I consider it beneath me to talk shit...But you Sir, are an Idiot...If you want to get onto someone for being a "junkie" go to crackheads.com or something...Don't come to a friendly (keyword being friendly) web forum discussing pot and politics...Oh yeah...Learn to SPELL...
Second: Someone, I forget who, brought up the point of how the economy began to go to shit when Democrats were voted into Congress...Well, DUH! Everyone wants to blame the shitastic economy on Bush...But only because he is the only person anyone knows to blame it on...The real issue lies within the halls of Congress...I seem to remember when Bill Clinton was in Office...The economy was shit then...And as soon, maybe within a year, as Bush is elected the economy begins to flourish...Someone brought up 9/11...And then someone got pissed off for bringing it up...Get over it...It happened...We can't change that and it's no reason to get pissed...But it did have an affect on Bush's Term...It made the economy drop again...And it slowly began to rise...Until Democrats were voted into Congress...
Third: Somebody said that ALL other countries out there hate us and that they get treated harshly for being American...Well...I'm from Texas...And when you go to another country and they find out you're from Texas they treat you better than they do their own coutrymen...You can't go to Paris or Spain or Amsterdam and say "Hey, I'm from Ohio." Or "Hey I'm from Oregon." and actually expect them to know where the fuck you're talking about...Just like Germans don't come over here expecting us to even know what they're talking about...We as Americans believe that everyone should speak English as long as they're in America...They why do other countries have English on most things¿¿¿ Because they have a certain level of tolerance...Unlike America...
Thank you to the people that took the time to read what I posted...I have forgotten what my point was and do not feel like reading over what I have already written...
And in closing all I would like to say is:
FUCK Y'ALL!!! I'M FROM TEXAS!!!
channel 5 news chicago
Nov 2 2008, 6:04 pm
under me
Oct 31 2008, 4:27 pm
Lakota :)
Oct 15 2008, 10:08 pm
ThA LorD INFaMOuS HaZE
Sep 24 2008, 5:39 pm
pot
Sep 21 2008, 3:06 pm
Yea
Sep 15 2008, 5:06 pm
Chillax everybody
Sep 14 2008, 3:46 pm
oh , and
Sep 13 2008, 7:31 am
Think about it .............. NO ! Don't hit the bong yet , just think about it ........................ take a breath ................think a little more ............
Now ... what does this indicate ? Any idea ? Not quite sure ?
hint : Look up the definition of "biased " and then look up the word "unbiased" .... see how they aren't quite the same thing ?
LOL
Sep 13 2008, 5:55 am
back at ya
Sep 12 2008, 7:59 pm
Yes , I said owner
Sep 12 2008, 7:30 am
and no , I won't be sending jobs overseas but..
YES , this would affect my ability to make a profit AND pay my employees . I realize you don't understand , and I am increasingly aware that you wouldn't let on if you did .
Expand you horizons and your perception will change .
oh wait, you said owner, right?
Sep 12 2008, 6:55 am
why am I arguing...
Sep 12 2008, 6:25 am
You're funnier making up the spi
Sep 12 2008, 5:37 am
ps: you're talking about politicians here . They lie . Actions speak louder than words .
you're funny, believing the spin
Sep 11 2008, 10:22 pm
:o)
Sep 11 2008, 4:35 pm
and
Sep 11 2008, 4:16 pm
that day,we must not ask why,we must accept,all facts and reasons are true and our govt. Has our 6,and knows what is best for us
really? what statemnets?
Sep 11 2008, 12:06 pm
Obama
Sep 11 2008, 5:53 am
Fact Check
Sep 11 2008, 4:59 am
you wanna deal with hype?
Sep 10 2008, 8:54 pm
what numbers?
Sep 10 2008, 8:49 pm
Fact Check
Sep 10 2008, 7:57 am
No , I got it
Sep 8 2008, 5:10 am
no, you missed it again
Sep 7 2008, 9:58 pm
Got your point
Sep 7 2008, 6:15 am
no political party can police their members 100% and no political party has cornered the market on honesty or morals . Thats just reality .
well.........
Sep 6 2008, 10:54 pm
but only one party has been "leading" this country for the last 7 plus years.And in that time,we've been robbed.
Freedom has become a dirty four letter word,and all the
questions that will never have answers,wmd,s and the like
where are they,who's got em now? And i don't even wanna start on Alaska,and off shore drilling.
you are missing the point
Sep 6 2008, 7:43 pm
I don't doubt
Sep 6 2008, 4:25 am
ps: your example of "proof" sounds like you are relying on conjecture and is hardly "proof at all . Although , it could be true , but has yet to be proven .
As far as the poor Democrat being duped by the villainous Republicans and taking a bribe example ... you don't think the guy is responsible for his actions ? Because he's a Democrat ? ...........now we're back to naive .......
You are wrong and ignorant
Sep 5 2008, 6:23 pm
You are excused
Sep 5 2008, 5:29 am
hint: bribery lobbying and lying is not limited to any one party and has never been . There goes your "truly informed " line .......
Excuse me?
Sep 4 2008, 6:00 pm
Objective Person
Sep 4 2008, 6:49 am
well
Sep 3 2008, 5:41 pm
tons of chants
Sep 3 2008, 3:47 pm
and
Sep 2 2008, 7:49 pm
what you talkin' 'bout?
Sep 2 2008, 7:28 pm
? supposed to be
Sep 2 2008, 5:02 am
"to" was supposed to be
Sep 1 2008, 7:37 pm
to
Sep 1 2008, 7:18 pm
Re: obviously
Sep 1 2008, 5:49 am
Thats like saying the Republicans cheered for McCain at the RNC meant something .
obviously
Aug 31 2008, 7:33 pm
Re: More clear
Aug 31 2008, 6:13 am
let me be more clear
Aug 30 2008, 9:10 pm
Re: "can you hear me "
Aug 30 2008, 5:06 pm
"Yes we can " ...? Are you sure ? When was this and what were the circumstances ? I think you're wrong on that .
to re and to to
Aug 30 2008, 4:35 pm
Re: "can you hear me "
Aug 30 2008, 6:04 am
to below
Aug 30 2008, 4:36 am
"can you hear me"
Aug 30 2008, 12:48 am
Mccain
Aug 30 2008, 12:45 am
Obama
Aug 29 2008, 5:55 pm
Can't wait for an actual televised debate .
?
Aug 29 2008, 7:20 am
"giving law enforcement the tools they need to investigate suspicious activities is the right thing ." "We should not let the Patriot Act expire " .
Factcheck : " Obama promised to repeal the patriot Act , but then voted for it " .
I guess it depends on your definition of the word "change " . Sounds like same ole same ole to me too .
?
Aug 29 2008, 6:49 am
Biden " the more people learn about them (Obam & Hilary ) and how they handle the pressure , the more their support will evaporate "
Sept . 2007 on Obama's Irag plan
Biden " my impression is he thinks that if we leave , somehow the Iragis are going to have an epiphany . I've seen zero evidence of that ."
the Observer on Obama's Presidential plans :
Biden " I don't recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or tactic "
And this is the guy that will be pulling the strings for Obama . Yea , sounds like change to me ..........
almost forgot
Aug 29 2008, 5:11 am
you don't understand . There is a difference .
to below
Aug 29 2008, 5:03 am
Thats mighty nice of you to take such responsibility . I bet you know what everybody is supposed to do, when and how they're supposed to do it ? haha .. you're funny .
Reality is a scary thing but it's preferable to wishful thinking if only because you aren't surprised when your delusions fall apart . You can call it "shitting on hope " I call it not sticking your head in the sand because you don't like it .
Debate ? Reality doesn't require debate , it simply is .
You don't like it ... cool . I don't want to change your mind , thats up to you .
to "to below"s again
Aug 28 2008, 6:39 pm
to "to below"s
Aug 28 2008, 6:14 pm
kinder
Aug 28 2008, 5:15 pm
to below
Aug 28 2008, 2:02 pm
kinder
Aug 28 2008, 1:40 pm
Is it POST TURTLE time again?
to below again
Aug 28 2008, 7:02 am
Do you blame the weather man /reporter for bad weather ?
Do you blame the Doctor for medical problems ?
Do you blame McDonalds because you got fat ?
I'll answer those questions for you :
The weather man/ reporter does not control the weather .
The Doctor didn't make you sick .
McDonalds didn't make you get fat ,you did .
Your problem is you can't stand it when people don't agree with you . And throwing one of your hissy fits might make you feel good in some way , but it only demonstrates your juvenile nature .
Things will remain the same . That is my opinion . You don't have to like it , I don't have to explain it ( it is doubtful you could understand if I did ) .
to below
Aug 28 2008, 5:34 am
Don't like the message , attack the messenger ? And things still remain the same .
ps : you're getting stupider with each post . Trying to save face often has the opposite effect .
change happens
Aug 28 2008, 1:06 am
to "to below"
Aug 28 2008, 12:47 am
to below
Aug 27 2008, 4:36 pm
...................................................ok
You shouldn't have brought up weed if that wasn't what you were talking about . That made your statement specific ( get somebody to explain that to you )
AND I never said I wanted the country to stay fucked up , thats your lack of interpretation again . ( when you read between the lines , but , there wasn't anything between the lines to read , you will always come across as an idiot )
SO , fuck you right back , off the high horse you think you're sitting on .
BTW Obama would probably be ok as a President as long as Biden is there for the real stuff .
Regardless , nothing will change .
BTW
Aug 27 2008, 3:26 pm
kinder
Aug 27 2008, 3:13 pm
and justice for all,ether America,rises to the occation or
go stumbling off into the night,like an old blinded one eyed
whore.
to the ?
Aug 27 2008, 3:02 pm
to to below
Aug 27 2008, 2:54 pm
?
Aug 27 2008, 8:12 am
What have the candidates stated they will do ? answer : nothing
What makes some people think they will do something ? Answer : nothing reality based . ( wishfull thinking doesn't count )
note : this conserns candidates who actually have a chance at being elected .
conclusion : there is no tooth fairy . Get used to it .
to to below
Aug 27 2008, 7:09 am
to below
Aug 27 2008, 5:47 am
That makes your comment even more childish .
AND
Aug 26 2008, 10:00 pm
KINDER
Aug 26 2008, 7:05 pm
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
to below
Aug 26 2008, 5:16 pm
kinder
Aug 25 2008, 1:31 pm
of AMERICA,will it be,land of the fee,home of the slave.Or
will it be,liberty and justice for all?
hey look!
Aug 24 2008, 10:17 pm
Obama / Biden ???
Aug 24 2008, 7:00 am
Somebodies got to be there for the hard stuff .......
watched it
Aug 24 2008, 1:05 am
FosterBoys
Aug 23 2008, 8:26 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyC-v3CNvfw
Forward this video to your Congressperson! Show them who we really are!
It's Obama/Biden 08!
Aug 23 2008, 6:11 am
yeah
Aug 23 2008, 6:02 am
O bombed a
Aug 23 2008, 5:43 am
McDraft
Aug 22 2008, 1:00 pm
kiefhash420
Aug 21 2008, 7:53 pm
Candidates
Aug 21 2008, 5:44 pm
oneee lovee
Aug 21 2008, 2:29 am
but if we could buy from vendors taxes would be lower and every one wouldnt need dealers and could buy dubs for the gram
1 love
to below
Aug 20 2008, 5:39 am
soundbyte world
Aug 20 2008, 1:45 am
not voting is a waste
Aug 20 2008, 1:38 am
HU210
Aug 19 2008, 6:52 am
Dont waste your vote on McInsane or Obuma.
too much south park
Aug 18 2008, 10:25 pm
HU210
Aug 18 2008, 6:52 am
Go ahead, jump off of the cliff with the rest of the lemmings. See what that gets ya.
Vote for Obama, who just stated this weekend that his greatest mistake was using drugs.
someone else
Aug 17 2008, 3:00 pm
HU210
Aug 16 2008, 2:08 pm
HU210
Aug 16 2008, 12:19 pm
When - we can spend our way to prosperity - Raygun left office. The U. S. was well over 2 Trillion in debt.
Type in: U.S. National Debt 1979 Start there ,read the charts.
Also note the last time that the debt was going down was Clinton's last year in office.
Just the facts please.
to AMERICAN
Aug 16 2008, 11:51 am
american
Aug 16 2008, 9:24 am
We haven't had a surplus in this country since the sixties. We've been trillions of dollars in debt since jimmy carter, and if you would've ever left the country, you would know that other countries view us(US) as the most conceited people in the world. On my trips to europe, I found it increasingly hard to get service where they thought I was american, and where I did, they only wanted to rip me off. I found it much more beneficial to just speak french and pretend I wasn't american.
And, as for the political candidates we have available to us this year, I would have to say I should just shoot myself. J mccain is another GWB, and obama is so left wing it makes me sick. What we should do it remove them both, and see who steps up next. The only good thing that could come of this election is if obama gets in. Then at least minority children could start off life actually believing that anything is attainable. Not just being told that, while viewing another reality. I'm just going to vote third party this year, fuck it, how much worse could they make it before someone starts shooting?
HU210
Aug 16 2008, 6:47 am
Bill Clinton was always a long winded fucker.
also
Aug 16 2008, 6:44 am
Hey That Card
Aug 16 2008, 6:32 am
Thats $20 million for the memories of two people who repeatedly stated under oath that they couldn't remember anything ............
420criminal
Aug 16 2008, 5:00 am
lace
Aug 16 2008, 12:05 am
that card?
Aug 15 2008, 10:13 pm
kake
Aug 15 2008, 8:32 pm
kake
Aug 15 2008, 8:29 pm
umm
Aug 15 2008, 7:49 pm
Kindness goes a long way, and kindness isn't threatening people with sanctions and military violence.
to below
Aug 15 2008, 6:55 pm
Fucked up everybodies money .
to hey ezra : yea , thats about the jist of it .
do better math
Aug 15 2008, 1:59 pm
re hey ezra
Aug 15 2008, 12:40 pm
Blaming anyone else is just silly.
Hey Ezra
Aug 15 2008, 11:33 am
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 yr. long high .
2) Regular gas was sold for about 2.19 a gallon.
3) The unemployment rate was at 4.5%
4) The Dow JOnes hit a reacord 14,000 +
5) Americans were buying new cars , taking trips/vacations
Then enough people decided things had to change so a Democratic Congress was voted in . Now what are those same statistics today ?
1)Consumer Confidence has plummeted .
2)gas went to 4.00 or so a gallon,
3) Unemplotment went to 5% ( thats a 10 % increase )
4) American Homes are being taken in foreclosure to the point where there is no number associated whith it yet .
Do the math .
Ezra Banks
Aug 15 2008, 7:39 am
Illuminati
Aug 15 2008, 1:09 am
Neither candidate would openly admit they are pro-pot b/c it would be political suicide due to the current status quo. People need to break off and support candidates that will help our cause.
Seriously
Aug 14 2008, 10:11 pm
earthchild
Aug 14 2008, 8:44 pm
HU210
Aug 14 2008, 5:25 pm
McInsane, never had a chance at my vote.
Bob Barr,A Libertarian? Thats rich. This drug war General will destroy the Libertarian Party. What were Libertarians thinking?
Writing in Ron Paul is really the only way to make our stoner voices heard now.
I am going to keep getting stoned regardless. If the sheeple want to provide 3 hots and a cot at their expence until they are broke. So be it.
Illuminati
Aug 14 2008, 5:02 pm
kinder
Aug 14 2008, 4:19 pm
To da po,po:How long has this drug war been going on, how
much money has been spent,not to say the loss of life.
The war on drugs has failed soon you will not have a job
cause you boys are gonna run out of funding for all your fun and games.Maybe you and yours should learn how to make
the donuts!!!!!!!!!!
danny danko
Aug 14 2008, 2:08 pm
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police office is a retard
Aug 14 2008, 11:05 am
Candidates
Aug 14 2008, 5:40 am
PS
Aug 13 2008, 11:53 pm
To boston
Aug 13 2008, 11:51 pm
Freedom Weeds
Aug 13 2008, 9:54 pm
umm
Aug 13 2008, 9:46 pm
Illuminati
Aug 13 2008, 9:12 pm
Also in their plans is to reduce the world's population by over 80%. Do you think you would survive a large-scale catastrophy to enjoy, if marijuana did indeed become legalized?
www.codexalimentarius.net
www.healthfreedomusa.org
anonymous
Aug 13 2008, 8:59 pm
Its proven fact. Black Americans get caught because they dont know how to be inconspicuous.
HU210
Aug 13 2008, 8:20 pm
Read this. Then with the ammunition of truth, demand an end to drug testing at your workplace!
www.doctordeluca.com/Library/PublicHealth/DrugTestWorkPlace2002-print.htm
Powerful stuff,Good Shit Man!
umm
Aug 13 2008, 8:03 pm
Illuminati
Aug 13 2008, 7:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdq6H_4Y7LU
Boston
Aug 13 2008, 6:23 pm
Boston
Aug 13 2008, 6:17 pm
Nice post, I agree cannabis is not for all people. It's better with a vaporizer and don't get me started on blunt or cigarette papers. Tobacco leaves, paper and chemicals cause more cancer than the weed? But I think you make some great points and I wish that they could be sanely discussed and brought to kids attention. Weed is not evil. But for some people a small amount maybe 1 in 100, they can have a really bad experience, similiar to what people refer to as a bad trip. I've seen it with a friend. He had a condition that was unknown untreated and it came out when he smoked with us. It wasn't his first smoke of his life and his second incident where he went over the edge. He's cool now but doesn't touch it. Which is good. I'm glad you see through the propaganda and speak logically about something that effected you directly. People like us will make it right. Nobody should be arrested for cannabis use. DARE and propaganda about cannabis needs to be put to a stop. We need real dialogue, education for our kids. Bring in real marijuana experts, people who are NORML sanctioned, scientists etc. not connected to the government. Cannabis is not perfect but it's a good medicine and the safest and most beneficial recreational drug for those that use it(in my opinion).
Boston
Aug 13 2008, 6:06 pm
Boston
Aug 13 2008, 5:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Znv41SIJU
I volunteer for masscann and I can attest that major drug dealing gangs support prohibition and not groups like norml. They support the police backed prohibition. Not talking growers many would like to grow it legally.
Re: Reading this, well. . .
Aug 13 2008, 3:24 pm
For instance, only recently have I started having good experiences smoking- generally they just aggravate my (already present) psychotic disorder. So, while I don't think pot can cause any more legitimate harm than what I've listed, I think it's important for people (especially those who may have latent psychological disorders) to jsut be aware of how it can affect you.
Oh, and PoliceOfficer, you make me giggle. =) You're such a joke.
Again- Peace, all.
yea
Aug 13 2008, 2:44 pm
"Alot of you people don't realise that i am doing what is right i am protecting the community from drug additcs , dealers like ya who would hurt anyone to get high so i try to stop this morons before they kill someone or themselfs. If marijuana is not dangerous why do our goverment makes it illegal? do you honestly think ur smarter than our goverment.. i dont think so... so stop smoking marijuana today and join the fight against drugs,God Bless."
Al
Aug 13 2008, 2:35 pm
I think this sentence pretty much sums up where your at, cop. Of course, the anti-drug gang has no experience whatsoever with the plant, we on the other hand, know a lot of info, more than the propaganda that has circulated for all these years. Let me ask you, have you smoked pot before?
my name doesnt matter
Aug 13 2008, 2:24 pm
Yes I do
Aug 13 2008, 1:50 pm
med patient
Aug 13 2008, 1:08 pm
PoliceOfficer
Aug 13 2008, 12:42 pm
federalstatesofamerica
Aug 13 2008, 9:38 am
smoke it if you got it
Aug 13 2008, 2:33 am
umm
Aug 13 2008, 1:46 am
Thats how I see it anyway, and that seems to work for me...
Love to the imbibers, and remember that Alcohol, tobacco and caffeine are the drugs the pushers push first♥
Reading this, well. . .
Aug 13 2008, 1:13 am
A couple points: Someone mentioned the idea that pot legalization isn't an issue just so people can smoke without fear of legal ramifications, though there is that aspect; what's the point at which you draw the line? When the government is prohibiting your freedom to pollute your body with anything you want (yeah, I do recognize that pot has legitimate medical uses- I also recognize that it has some harmful effects as well, though nothing that will kill you outright), why wouldn't they prohibit your freedom to do anything else? If your drug use, no matter how hard the drug is, is only hurting yourself, that should be your decision. That's your life. If you get messed up and hurt someone else, or drive stoned or high on meth or shitfaced, yeah, that should be punishible. But forreals, let people hurt themselves as much as they want.
Secondly, on the topic of politics, though I think it really applies to life in general: People are people. NOBODY is perfect. But we forget this, and we judge other people. Yeah, sure, the cop who posted was being a dick and has no right to go about belittling people like that, he still has the total right to be a judgemental prick and have unrealistic perceptions of users. Sure, it's sad. Sure, you should try and educate him. But, really, by reacting with hostility, you're just perpetuating his negative image of users at large. Also, one of my best friends is a detective who smokes regularly; just as the cop who posted here thinks he's better than all of us, it seems that most of you genralize to the point where you consider yourselves better than not only him, but all law inforcement peoples. I'd just ask- isn't it possible that's you're just judgemental in a different way? People are people- we're all stuck here together, start learning to accept people, even if you don't agree with them.
For the record, I don't really smoke pot- maybe about twice a year. That being said, I'm all for legalization. The war on drugs isn't just useless, it's immoral. It's one of the many things that makes me wish I wasn't American.
Peace, all.
F The Police
Aug 13 2008, 1:05 am
thc bear to PoliceOfficer
Aug 12 2008, 10:53 pm
umm
Aug 12 2008, 10:52 pm
HU210
Aug 12 2008, 9:13 pm
If legalizn weed is such a minor issue. Then why aint it legal? It should be easy for them. Look at the facts-Legalize it-eh?
re: umm
Aug 12 2008, 9:05 pm
http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/medical/young/young.html
click here for instructions on how
what?
Aug 12 2008, 9:00 pm
umm
Aug 12 2008, 8:34 pm
The Dea's very own law Judge the Honerable Francis L. Young's decision. Please copy and paste the link below to your web browser, and press return...
http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/medical/young/young.html
maximillious
Aug 12 2008, 8:30 pm
gren hari ohio kid 17
Aug 12 2008, 7:24 pm
I do not care
Aug 12 2008, 7:12 pm
I how ever in 15 years will have a million dollars that I have earned through hard work. In 15 yaers i will be moving to Mexico or Costa rico and live like a king on my million.
so i pitty all of you fools.
kinder
Aug 12 2008, 6:40 pm
Over the years billons and billons of dollars,your hard earned tax dollar has paid and paid and paid and paid,for
the war on drugs,yes YOU,are funding the war on drugs and
you ain't gettin' your money's worth.In fact they got both
cannons pointed at YOU!!!!!!!
How long are YOU going to keep paying for something that
don't work,never will work,cause it was not suppost to work.
HOW LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
obamamccain
Aug 12 2008, 6:39 pm
in the last election. enough people DIDN'T vote to have elected someone else. you might want to think about that.
probably a bunch of stoners(like you) who couldnt get away from the bong,sofa and chips. to take 1/2 hour of their time every other year, and get off of their apathetic asses and do something to change their situation.
just doing the easy part and just sit around getting stoned and bitchin. all talk no action.
get it yet?
to 10
Aug 12 2008, 6:38 pm
Ode to the officer in denial.
Aug 12 2008, 6:24 pm
HussshYourMouth
Aug 12 2008, 6:17 pm
somebody
Aug 12 2008, 5:56 pm
look man the only protest that happens is a shitload of high college hippies sitting in a road.
Americans have turned into pussies that dont have the balls to do anything about the government.
to 10
Aug 12 2008, 5:46 pm
@ police officer
Aug 12 2008, 5:39 pm
jax
Aug 12 2008, 5:31 pm
HU210
Aug 12 2008, 5:27 pm
Why the drug war is a crime against humanity,explained in plain english.
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3608.shtml
none ya
Aug 12 2008, 5:03 pm
InKeD OnE
Aug 12 2008, 3:52 pm
InKeD OnE
Aug 12 2008, 3:50 pm
umm
Aug 12 2008, 3:47 pm
The truth please
Aug 12 2008, 3:37 pm
Illuminati
Aug 12 2008, 3:03 pm
Who benefits from these wars? Defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies, building and prison contractors (Halliburton/Dick Cheney), oil companies, more funding for police and military, the REAL drug lords (the government - just google Iran-Contra Affair).
Our standard of living is continually falling from where it used to be. WEIRD!!!!
Everyone needs to wake-up!!!! WATCH ZEITGEIST, ENDGAME, FREEDOM TO FASCISM. (All available for free on google)
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.
The Real Common Sense
Aug 12 2008, 2:59 pm
Now, I will burn one .
megan
Aug 12 2008, 2:32 pm
Illuminati
Aug 12 2008, 2:22 pm
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it." - JFK
"Think for yourself and question authority." -Timothy Leary
tyler
Aug 12 2008, 2:15 pm
buds
Aug 12 2008, 2:08 pm
DONO
Aug 12 2008, 1:56 pm
Could some plz explain how being a liberal(*note the spelling*) could be a bad thing?
Ohio republican girl
Aug 12 2008, 1:33 pm
Obama-5
Aug 12 2008, 1:31 pm
Whatever
Aug 12 2008, 1:28 pm
Forget about what is illegal. What are we going to do about the stuff they say it's ok for you to take as mentioned above.
Kind regards,
Peace keeper!
Georgio
Aug 12 2008, 1:26 pm
georgia
Aug 12 2008, 1:24 pm
THE INDIVDUALS
Aug 12 2008, 1:20 pm
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Aug 12 2008, 12:49 pm
Amerika is the 4th Reich.
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Aug 12 2008, 12:17 pm
OBAMA IN 2008!
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Aug 12 2008, 12:15 pm
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