Taxing Pot Could Become a Political Toking Point
An Assemblyman from San Francisco argues that it's time to tax and regulate the state's biggest cash crop in the same manner as alcohol. Opponents say it would create new costs for society.
Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:29 am
Source: www.latimes.com
Reporting from Sacramento -- Could Cannabis sativa be a salvation for California's fiscal misfortunes? Can the state get a better budget grip by taxing what some folks toke?
An assemblyman from San Francisco announced legislation Monday to do just that: make California the first state in the nation to tax and regulate recreational marijuana in the same manner as alcohol.
Buoyed by the widely held belief that cannabis is California's biggest cash crop, Assemblyman Tom Ammiano contends it is time to reap some state revenue from that harvest while putting a damper on drug use by teens, cutting police costs and even helping Mother Nature.
"I know the jokes are going to be coming, but this is not a frivolous issue," said Ammiano, a Democrat elected in November after more than a dozen years as a San Francisco supervisor. "California always takes the lead -- on gay marriage, the sanctuary movement, medical marijuana."
Anti-drug groups are anything but amused by the idea of California collecting a windfall from the leafy herb that remains illegal under federal law.
"This would open another door in Pandora's box," said Calvina Fay, executive director of Save Our Society From Drugs. "Legalizing drugs like this would create a whole new set of costs for society."
Ammiano's measure, AB 390, would essentially replicate the regulatory structure used for beer, wine and hard liquor, with taxed sales barred to anyone under 21.
He said it would actually boost public safety, keeping law enforcement focused on more serious crimes while keeping marijuana away from teenagers who can readily purchase black-market pot from peers.
The natural world would benefit, too, from the uprooting of environmentally destructive backcountry pot plantations that denude fragile ecosystems, Ammiano said.
But the biggest boon might be to the bottom line. By some estimates, California's pot crop is a $14-billion industry, putting it above vegetables ($5.7 billion) and grapes ($2.6 billion). If so, that could mean upward of $1 billion in tax revenue for the state each year.
"Having just closed a $42-billion budget deficit, generating new revenue is crucial to the state's long-term fiscal health," said Betty Yee, the state Board of Equalization chairwoman who appeared with Ammiano at a San Francisco news conference.
Also in support of opening debate on the issue are San Francisco Sheriff Mike Hennessey and retired Orange County Superior Court Judge James Gray, a longtime legalization proponent.
"I'm a martini guy myself," Ammiano said. "But I think it's time for California to ... look at this in a truly deliberative fashion."
He sees the possibility of an eventual truce in the marijuana wars with Barack Obama now in the White House.
A White House spokesman declined to discuss Ammiano's legislation, instead pointing to a transition website that says the president "is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana."
Several cities in California and around the nation have adopted laws making marijuana the lowest law enforcement priority, including Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, Denver and Seattle.
Oakland went even further in 2004, requiring pot to be taxed if it is legalized.
They say easier access means more problems with drug dependency among adults, heavier teen use and an increase in driving while high.
"If we think the drug cartels are going to tuck their tails between their legs and go home, I think we're badly mistaken," Fay said.











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tree
Jul 28 2009, 3:28 pm
$1,000 per plant, pay the Man!
tree
Jul 28 2009, 3:18 pm
$1,000 per plant, pay the Man!
one day
Mar 4 2009, 6:14 pm
HU210
Mar 3 2009, 11:31 am
Tuesday January 27, 2009, 3:50 AM
On this day in 1791, after a vigorous debate, the House, by a vote of 35-21, approved legislation imposing an excise tax on whiskey. The levy proved highly unpopular and sparked a brief armed revolt — known as the Whiskey Rebellion — against the federal government, which had been established in 1789.
At protest meetings, opponents of the tax cited the Stamp Act of 1765, which helped foster the successful uprising against the British crown. Western farmers regarded the tax as unfair and discriminatory. They earned much of their income by distilling their spare grain into liquor, and they were incensed that the tax was aimed at producers, not consumers.
In 1794, some farmers in western Pennsylvania attacked federal officials seeking to collect tax on the grain they had distilled into whiskey. One group of resisters, disguised as women, assaulted a tax collector, cropped his hair, tarred and feathered him and stole his horse. President George Washington dispatched 13,000 militia men under his personal command to put down the incipient revolt. Resistance quickly dissipated after the troops arrived.
Alexander Hamilton, the first secretary of the treasury, joined Washington in the field to put down the rebellion. Hamilton had proposed the tax on distilled spirits to raise revenue to pay down the national debt. It had soared after the federal government assumed debts incurred by states in the Revolutionary War as part of the grand bargain that led to the adoption of the U.S. Constitution.
Hamilton said the tax would serve “more as a measure of social discipline than as a source of revenue.” But, perhaps most important, he wanted the tax to advance and secure the power of the nascent federal government.
Source: Historian, Office of the U.S. House Clerk
Watch for the upcomming Reefer tax rebellion when the gov attempts to over tax weed. Probably with the same reasoning= need $$$$$$$ to pay for war on terror,etc.
KnugZ420
Mar 1 2009, 9:15 pm
bipolarmania
Mar 1 2009, 5:42 pm
WEEDGOD
Feb 28 2009, 9:36 pm
FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!!! THE WEED WILL ALWAYS BE LEGAL TO ME,I DONT NEED A STATE TO MAKE IT SO!
THE MIGHTY WEEDGOD HAS SPOKEN!!!
longbong
Feb 28 2009, 1:00 am
WeedHead
Feb 27 2009, 4:22 pm
lifted
Feb 26 2009, 10:36 pm
gstlab3
Feb 26 2009, 8:36 pm
420blazeup
Feb 26 2009, 3:30 pm
planning ahead
Feb 26 2009, 3:16 am
USA(the assholes)
Feb 25 2009, 1:20 pm
i love you sweet leaf
Feb 25 2009, 4:35 am
as far as worrying about our kids, its an asinine excuse for parents who cant take responsibility for themselves to raise their own children. plus i seriously doubt that the cartel is going to be hanging around schools to sell to kids who could easily get it from an older friend or family member(just like how most teens get alcohol and cigarettes).
the only reason that i can see why this bill probably will not pass(besides the dumbshit officials not even taking the time to sensibly consider it) is that it will affect other states regulations regarding possession. because there WILL be people road tripping to cali. but hopefully it does pass and other states adapt the legislature too. the fed gov. needs to step in (as they do for every other personal matter) and just legalize it entirely, maybe than they can cut a few billion dollars out of the "war on drugs" that they piss away every year.
well thats it, sorry for any "offensive" language.support NORML!
DROSKYTX
Feb 24 2009, 11:41 pm
support ur local pot dealer n buy from him
only the best
only one love
DROSKY!
Dank4Sure
Feb 24 2009, 8:56 pm
D-Bag
Feb 24 2009, 7:15 pm
I've got news for you, lady. It's a real shocker too. Are you ready for this?
THEY ALREADY ARE.
...
Feb 24 2009, 4:00 pm
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Feb 24 2009, 2:16 pm
U should be able to grow your own.. but not distribute it! That's how you tax and liscence.. but what will we see...
looking forward to the FIRST MARJIUANA FEST!! YEAH HA!
anonymous
Feb 24 2009, 1:55 pm
Their goal should be to bring the prices down to the point that mexican drug cartels can;t make any profit. If herb was next to free then you'd see a dramatic drop in border smuggling and violence. A moron can tell you that.
Decrimianlization is the way to go. Tax it, but not at $50 an ounce. Should be more like 5 to 10 bucks per ounce. Legalization opens doors for the herb to be "controlled" by the government. They shouldn't tell us how much TCH is an acceptable amount. That would be bullshit and they will destroy the potency that everyone desires.
reality check
Feb 24 2009, 1:33 pm
Clay
Feb 24 2009, 1:30 pm
Clay
Feb 24 2009, 1:26 pm
420ill
Feb 24 2009, 1:16 pm
Clay
Feb 24 2009, 1:08 pm
umm
Feb 24 2009, 1:08 pm
IF YOU TAKE THE MILLSTONE AWAY FROM A MAN IT IS AS IF YOU KILLED HIM.,BY DEPRIVING A MAN OF HIS ABILITY TO SECURE A LIVING FOR HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY IT IS AS IF YOU MURDERED THEM ALL. TO BE FREE AND SECURE IN ONES LIVING., ONE MUST HAVE THE RIGHTS TO OWNERSHIP OF PROPERTY AND THE WAYS AND MEANS OF PRODUCTION.FOR WITHOUT THESE SECURITY OF LIFE AND FORTUNE ARE LOST TO THE GOVERNMENTS WHO RETAIN AND CONTROLL THE AFFOREMENTIONED!!! THINK PLEASE oh PLEASE LET THERE BE ENOUGH FREE THINKING INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE TO WRENCH THE BINDS OF TYRANY FROM THE PEOPLEs' "MILLSTONES".
Clay
Feb 24 2009, 12:44 pm
the child no,and enforce it with the moving the child from the
problem,and I'm talking from the time they start moving around
until they learn what NO means. I'm truly sorry that when the parents were making the child that they didn't understand that they were gonna have too do anything besides screw too get them.
Clay
Feb 24 2009, 12:32 pm
420Viper
Feb 24 2009, 12:31 pm
Here's an article where Jack Cole of LEAP owns her bitch ass using facts instead of right-wing, prohibitionist fear mongering dogma. It made my day, I hope it makes yours.
http://transform-drugs.blogspot.com/2008/10/drug-free-america-foundation-clash-with.html
Clay
Feb 24 2009, 12:26 pm
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