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L.A. Medical Pot Ordinance Sparks Controversy

Mon, Nov 16, 2009 4:08 pm


In the continuing saga of the L.A. City Council’s bumbling attempt to 1) actually pass a legitimate medical marijuana ordinance, and, 2) somehow ban the sale of medical marijuana, the council is buckling down today to finish drafts of their latest anti-medical marijuana legislation.

 

As we’ve covered previously, the City Attorney’s interpretation of the state law – that it actually prohibits sales of medical marijuana – is quite a stretch. Essentially, the argument is that to be designated as “nonprofit” a business cannot accept any cash. Not even to cover the basic costs of operating. Naturally, such a law would lead to the closing of a whole bunch of legitimate nonprofit dispensaries – just as it would lead to the closing of a whole bunch of legitimate nonprofit businesses in any field if the City Council decided to target them.

 

It’s a long shot that such an ordinance would hold up in court (as it appears the entire case for banning sales is based on a wishful interpretation and is not actually specific in the language of the law). Still, the City Council seems content to go forward with this ordinance and in the process, waste time, waste money, and appear woefully inept.

 

Two groups, the Union of Medical Marijuana Patients and Americans for Safe Access are prepared to sue over City Attorney Carmen Trutanich’s sophistry. Let’s hope we don’t get to that point and that the ordinance never passes the council.

 

More info @ latimes.com



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uhh

Dec 29 2009, 8:01 pm

I guess Its impossible to get over the wrong doing by the prohibitionists, its just that I think we need to shed our anger. Anger blocks the good life that all should have.
Vaporized green goodness should never be shunned!

actually

Dec 24 2009, 5:01 pm

It was Joseph Campbell's
Mythic literature

after though

Dec 23 2009, 4:55 pm

Listing to joseph campbols symbol thing, I realize that maybe i am being too critical. After all, it is HUMAN to not be perfect. I just need to get over it.

the people

Nov 24 2009, 2:16 pm

you can not trust are the snitches. The ones who thrive on federal monies to entrap otherwise innocent people.

I'm not for a minute saying that there isn't scum who use "street drugs", and I think the violent ones and the ones who do steal or and hurt others do need to be locked away.

However statistics don't lie. Most cannabis busts are for having a little weed on the person and non violent. This is a crying shame.

Watch out for people who pepper they're wording with words like "abuse" and "drug addict" and be careful around people who say they have been "clean" for such and such a time, "as they usually smoke a cigarette of tobacco", as they don't know the real meaning of clean then so they can not be trusted either as these words are words uttered by prohibitionists.

just out

Nov 24 2009, 2:09 pm

more factious trivia

Prohibitionists use the old we have to not trust the "street people" as a ruse to frighten ordinary citizens into believing that any use of a substance other than the ones pushed by doctors makes the street people somehow become thiefs, or worse. This just isn't so.

I have lived among the "street people" for a while, and have found the nicest people to be street people.

I have

Nov 22 2009, 4:19 pm

found out that there are over 6,798,724,641 people on the planet.

Most of those people get by on less than a dollar a day.

the city council

Nov 22 2009, 4:15 pm

Needs to enact the will of the voters.

I'm not even sure why we need to vote on legalizing our constitutional rights in the first place.

Coast to coast last nite told the truth on how and why so many people are getting arrested yearly folks and its a shame. Snitches. Watch out for these soulless vermin.
The lady who hope to profit from the book she wrote on the snitches made me sick. Her anti-christenic attitude is most evil. I know weed is the all healing herb, and I don't do coke, but I know those who do will continue doing what they want until they and they alone choose to stop. So I leave the coke users alone. In turn, they leave me alone, and we have mutual respect for each other, and that's how it should work. But that lady last night. Saying the arrest of "these people" are necessary. PULEEZE!
She I assume thinks I need to be in a penile institution. What trash she is if that's what she thinks.
She needs to take all her proceeds from that ill book of hers and donate to Norml, or mpp, or maybe go out her door, and give the money to the homeless.

The New Linneas

Nov 21 2009, 10:33 pm

Hey I have a blog about the demonization of marijuana and how it should be made into a legal medication please comment and leave insightful reason behind your thoughts the medical implications of the ganja. Please leave insightful and comprehensive ideas about why you believe marijuana is a safer and better medication for pain etc.... this is a project for a toxicology class and I would like to get the people opinion but I have to remove anything that is not appropriate.

LET'S LEGALIZE IT...... my blog is
http://demon-plant.blogspot.com/

MR.C

Nov 21 2009, 7:48 pm

well where to start. first of all i have never paid for medical marijuana in Los Angeles, i make donations. donations are not cash transactions, there for it is not illegal. second the da in la will be gone soon enough and they will proberly never have a political job again, but ya they should just stay home and never come back. save us all alot of time and money to get rid of them. and yes if any of us were to tell our employers what we will and will not do yes we would be shown the door. so if the da in la does not want to do what they are told then yes they should be terminated. at least if the city council did this then maybe they would gain some respect from the voters, because they truely need some. but if they do not do their job then it will be the job of the voters to remove them for office. everyone have a happy thanks giving and stay hopeful.

scotti

Nov 20 2009, 1:25 pm

That would not be a good thing if the city keeps there shit up.

ANON

Nov 20 2009, 12:58 pm

IF THESE IDIOTS COULD ONLY GET IT THROUGH THEIR THICK HEAD THATS WEED IS NOT BAD FOR YOU.

Eazy E

Nov 20 2009, 8:36 am

I'd rather pay tax on it than get locked up for it

hmm

Nov 19 2009, 1:40 pm

well Marijuana is a Vegtable given to us buy GOD how can they TAX IT it should be free for all

la city council

Nov 19 2009, 3:20 am

I don't get it, I would think that the city council would be able to just tell the district attourney sorry!! we do not agree with you and for even trying to go against the will of the voters we will fire you. Get another job, I bet you would be good in fast food Carmen.

dr. green thumb.

Nov 18 2009, 11:12 pm

very stupid move for la county. i guess it back 2 buyin weed off the street again. just what we need drive it back 2 the blackmarket. fucken retards

James Crosby

Nov 18 2009, 1:59 pm

This is complete bullshit. The L.A. council is being so stupid, and we're all watching them! We all KNOW how ridiculous they are being! We'll just have to take them to court & win. I'm glad to see advocacy groups ready to take them on in court already; because they will win for sure.

Not-for-profit business' have been able to sell stuff since their inception. They just can't be making a profit for personal individuals. They must put their money back into the organization. That is completely legal, and always has been.

people!

Nov 18 2009, 1:45 pm

You need to come out of your various esoteric groups and tell it like it is, and not in metaphoric code. I am so sick of that. Tell it like it is.

Let people, all people know how you feel. If your group prohibits such free speech, then quit that group, and join one that will, or be a loner and do it yourselves.

And ignore the crazy people that post here with hate. They are obviously paid fed ass-wipes.

gstlab3

Nov 18 2009, 12:25 pm

TO: EVERYONE.,
COPY AND SPREAD THESE FOLLOWING WORDS AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE.,

gstlab3

Nov 18 2009, 12:23 pm

WHEN DOES THE SECOND AMENDMENT BECOME RELEVANT?
"WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE FORCED OUT OF DESPARATE NEED AND BASIC SURVIVAL IS BROUGHT TO THE FACES OF THE SPOILED ENTITLEMENT CLASSES AND THE ELITISTS HAVE RUN OUT OF BAIT AND SWITCH GAMES FOR US TO SWALLOW!!"
"WHEN DO THE PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THEY ARE SLAVES IN PERPETUITY?"
WHEN THEY ARE TOLD THAT THEIR MEDICAL CONDITION AND SUCH PRECLUDE THEM FROM TREATMENTS AND MEDICINES AND ADVANCEMENT IN SOCIETY IS THUS ENDED AND YOU WILL BE PUT ON WELLFARE AND REMAIN COMPLIANT UNTIL YOU DIE."
IS THIS WHEN?
IS IT TIME TO ACT?
OR.... DO WE SIT ON OUR HANDS AND WAIT SOME MORE WHILE OUR LIVES AND OUR FORTUNES ARE SQUANDERED IN WASHINGTON D.C. AND PLACES LIKE LOS ANGELES?"
WHEN DID OUR LIVES AND OUR LIFES WORK BECOME THE PROPERTY OF THE GOVERNMENT?
WHEN DID THE PEOPLE LOOSE THEIR RIGHT TO BE COMFORTABLE DURING ILLNESS AND DEATH?!?
WHEN THE FUCK DO WE AS A NATION RISE UP AND TELL THESE SONS OF BITCH THAT WE ARE FREE AND WILL NOT BE LIED TO ANY LONGER?!??!"
OUR LIVES ARE OUR OWN!!!!
THESE PLANTS AND OUR BODIES ARE SOVRIEGHN GIFTS FROM GOD AND CANNOT BE OWNED BY ANY GOVERNMENT!!!!
THIS GOES FOR THE PLANET AS WELL FOR ALL YOU TREE HUGGERS OUT THERE!!!!
WE AS HUMAN BEINGS DO NOT "OWN" ANYTHING.
WE ARE CARE TAKERS OF THIS EARTH AND EACH OTHER AND NOTHING MORE., WE ARE GARDENERS AND BABY SITTERS AND NURSES, MOMS AND DADS, BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND COUSINS, AUNTS AND UNCLES.,ALL OF US TOGETHER ARE ONE BIG EXTENDED FAMILY SOME OF WICH WE CANNOT STAND TO BE AROUND!!! "HAHAHA!"
ANY WAY WE BETTER ACT LIKE WE ARE AMERICAN VERY SOON OR THERE WILL BE NO FREEDOMS LEFT AND AMERICA WILL BE A FAIRY TALE ONCE AGAIN NEVER TO BE REALIZED AGAIN BY OUR GENERATION WHO CAN STILL REMEMBER THINGS WHEN THEY WERE A LITTLE BETTER THAN THEY ARE NOW.
AND SOME OF US REMEMBER THE STORY AND OF THE IDEAS OF FREEDOM AND THE BIRTH OF THIS., THE WORLDS ONLY TRULY FREE NATION AND THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT IT INTO EXISTANCE AND WHY THEY DID IT.,
I HATE TO THINK WE WILL HAVE TO BE REMINDED WHY THEY DID WHAT THEY DID.,LIFE WAS'NT SO NICE BACK IN THOSE DAYS.,
I HOPE MORE OF US REALIZE WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING OVER AND I HOPE THEY COME AND GET ORGANIZED VERY SOON.,
WE NEED TO RAISE A ARMY OF FREEDOM FIGHTER ALL OVER AGAIN!!!
REAL PATRIOTS!!! REAL PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE FREE.
IT AI'NT JUST ABOUT MARIJUANA ANYMORE!!!!
GROW YOUR OWN, FREE YOUR MIND, FREE THE PLANET!!!!!!

la-city-council

Nov 18 2009, 11:21 am

This is how they think in government in LA (or anywhere else, for that matter).

pAY tAXES - THEN JUST DIE.

There is no marijuana for sale here. No one uses it. Don't come here.

Stay home and get drunk.


Don't get married.


Stay home and get drunk.

Stay home and get drunk.


THE LA CITY COUNCIL
DON'T VISIT HERE

PAY TAXES - THEN JUST ROLL OVER AND DIE.
IF YOU'RE HERE - GO AWAY AND GET DRUNK.

PAY TAX - THEN DIE.

HU210

Nov 18 2009, 6:56 am

http://cannabisculture.com/v2/content/hugh-hefner-thinks-anti-drug-laws-corrupted-america


Well said Hef.

Ghostwolf

Nov 18 2009, 4:57 am

The whole bunch of them are tin foil hat wearers and you know what that means. !@#$%^&*()+ Damm It!

HadGirthAtBirth

Nov 18 2009, 2:29 am

haha what a bunch of child ass raping trojan helmet shitheads

bigtitsbiggerdicks

Nov 18 2009, 1:48 am

goddamn cum guzzlin horse fuckers

gstlab3

Nov 17 2009, 8:32 pm

WHEN GOVERNMENTS HIDE BEHIND THE LIKES OF ATTORNEY
CARMEN TRUTANICH AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SIT IDLE AND ARE DEAF TO THE CITIZENRY YOU HAVE TYRANY!!
THE LAST TIME TYRANTS ASSERTED THEMSELVES UPON THE FREEDOM LOVING PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES THERE WAS CIVIL WAR AND THE UNION WAS BROKEN.,UNTIL THE PEOPLE WERE BROKEN AND THE ARMIES WERE DEPLETED., BOTH SIDES HAVE SUFFERED INTO THIS DAY., WE ARE SEEING THE GOVERNMENT OVER STEPPING THE BOUNDS OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IS IGNORED.HOW DO WE RESPOND?!?
OPEN REBELLION? A VOTE IN THE NEXT ELECTION SEASON?
OR REAL ACTION IN THE SUPREME COURT PUTTING AN END TO THE LAWYERING AND THE CREATION OF MORE BEUROCRACIES?
HOW DO WE DISMANTLE THIS EMPIRE THAT FEEDS OFF THE CITIZENS AND PROMOTES NOTHING BUT MORE RESTRAINTS UPON THE COMMON PEOPLE?!?!
THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA MUST END THE GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION IN COMMERCE AND TRADE/ SMALL BUISNESS etc...,GIVE THE PEOPLE THEIR PROPERTY AND INCOME TAX/SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY BACK AND GIVE THEM THEIR RIGHT TO TRADE OPENLY AND PRIVATELY IN SMALL PERSONAL CO-OPS AND SMALL FARMS!!!!
GROW YOUR OWN, FREE YOUR MIND, FREE THE PLANET!!!!

dumbass

Nov 17 2009, 5:35 pm

both michael jackson and ana nicole smith died of pharmaceutical drugs overdoses , legal dope kills.
cannabis does not what else do they need to know?

the

Nov 17 2009, 5:10 pm

people voted to have the ability to buy pot legally, so whats the problem? No one dies from Cannabis.

How about closing down pharmaceutical outlets in l.a. that dispense deadly pills? How many pill outlets are there in l.a.? Huh? How many die in l.a. from pills annually?

Red

Nov 17 2009, 12:13 pm

This message is intended for the knuckleheads in L.A. trying to take away patients rights. Every business regardless of their tax status, has a right to remuneration. Light bills have to be paid, along with rent etc. The L.A. ordinance will do two things. It'll push patients back onto the streets for their medicine and all the places where there were dispensaries will sit vacant becoming an eye sore in the community. It's L.A.s own fault, you guys at the city council sat on your freaking hands. You sat by and let everything happen. So now you've got too many dispensaries and instead of looking for a real solution, you want to find a legal loophole to shutter them all. Every council member should be ashamed of themselves, because if your inability to do your jobs, you want to penalize the sick in your community. Remember one thing as your plotting your next move against the sick in your community, they are voters and they WILL remember what your council did.

commen sense

Nov 17 2009, 4:48 am

I hope people just refuse to see a doctor and refuse to pay into health care. Instead I hope everyone joins the new health care plan of medical marijuana and refuses to pay this broken down health care system another dime. Stop paying for old broken down health care and pay for something that is good for the environment instead.

the

Nov 16 2009, 6:09 pm

people who vote in favor of spitting in the faces of the innocent, have the mentality of the hater on coast to coast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDN55kfYjYI
Skip 30 seconds from the beginning to see his humiliation when he sees the error in his hateful ways. Haters let the light of fear guide they're way in life. Just look at tv and see what the prohibitionists love to listen to. They long to tell someone off. Haters long to hit someone if they think they could get away with it. and some haters join groups and try to multiply they're hate into policies of hate. I bring you now to l.a. Its obvious I am right on.

why

Nov 16 2009, 5:53 pm

why is it that haters are always in city councils?

who elects these mentally challenged intolerant people who want only war with the innocent?

haters have every right to live on this earth, but to spread they're diseased ways is not the way of true and successful and prosperous and happy countries.

mindless sheep should have no vote to any city council, as the results are disastrous as can be seen from our economy.

Real World Wisdom

Nov 16 2009, 5:20 pm

L.A. is biding is time . Hopefully ( to them ) this Obama healthcare bullshit will pass and the point will be moot .
I'm VERY seldom wrong . Hopefully ( for us ) this healthcare bullshit will be shot down by people with a brain .
Or maybe the Jan.2010 court hearing to determine Obama's eligibility to be President will go well and the bastard will be removed from office ( sorry Demo's you should have known better ). We have a few options .
We'll see ............

FUCK THAT!

Nov 16 2009, 4:41 pm

This is absolutely ridiculous. A non-profit business cant even accept cash to cover operating costs. what a load of shit.

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