Florida Governor Wrong About Welfare and Drugs
Thu, Aug 25, 2011 2:15 pm
Earlier this year Florida Governor Rick Scott signed a bill into law that would require welfare applicants to pass a drug test before receiving benefits from the state. Scott was adamant that people receiving welfare use drugs at a higher rate than the rest of the population. The governor attempted to make this case in an interview with CNN’s T.J. Holmes:
Holmes: “What evidence do you have that [Florida subsidizes drug addiction through welfare]?
Scott: “Studies show that people that are on welfare are higher users of drugs than people not on welfare…”
Holmes: “To that point, that would stop people in their tracks, and I don’t have whatever study you are referring to but you’re saying that people out there who need this assistance, lost jobs, are on welfare, have a higher tendency to use drugs.”
Scott: “Absolutely. The studies show that people on welfare are using drugs much higher than the population.”
Of course Scott didn’t offer up which “studies” show this to be true. Apparently the viewers, and the people of Florida, were to take his word for it.
This bit of sophistry was met with public outcry – the ACLU is threatening a lawsuit challenging the law’s constitutionality – but Scott was undeterred, insisting that rooting out all the drug addicts from the welfare application pool would save the state money.
Well, the law took effect July 1, and while it is a small sample size, Florida’s new lets-drug-test-welfare-applicants program has actually provided some statistics (unlike Scott). And the statistics show Scott to have been dead wrong.
At least 1,000 welfare applicants have been drug tested thus far. Of that group, 2 percent failed the drug test, 2 percent withdrew from the application process for unspecified reasons and 96 – yes 96 – percent were drug free.
Because the law requires the state to reimburse applicants the cost of the test if they pass (each test costs $30), the program is will cost Florida $28,800 - $43,2000 a month, according to The Tampa Tribune. The Tribune places the state’s savings (from rejecting applicants) between $32,200 and $48,2000 monthly – making the program a wash.
More importantly, the results of the program dismantle Scott’s insensitive and idiotic assumption that welfare recipients are more likely to use drugs than anyone else.
For the ACLU’s Derek Newton, the reasoning behind the program is pretty clear: “This is just punishing people for being poor, which is one of our main points … We're not testing the population at-large that receives government money; we're not testing people on scholarships, or state contractors. So why these people? It's obvious – because they're poor.”














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alanofsac
Nov 19 2011, 5:51 pm
supporter
Oct 22 2011, 7:10 pm
anonymous
Sep 12 2011, 9:33 pm
hmm
Sep 12 2011, 9:13 pm
anonymous
Sep 12 2011, 7:49 pm
Square
Sep 11 2011, 9:04 pm
anonymous
Sep 5 2011, 3:30 pm
freevibed
Sep 4 2011, 12:30 pm
Look past the doper rhetoric that youve read on these pro-pot sites and learn the cold hard facts on freevibed.com
You'll thank me in the end. :)
Unbieveable
Sep 3 2011, 6:43 pm
So why make them feel worse and run down the little self esteem they have left, thus making it harder for them to look for work as they are made to feel unworthy of respect.
2 people out of 100 failed 2 found work or left the state or were to proud to pee in a cup for a little food. Or maybe the last 2 just feel it is easier to kill you and take your money instead.
So 96 innocent people are made to pay $30 and submit to the shame of others watching them pee so the rest of the Floridian fuck heads can feel superior.
I have an idea let's just steal their souls and leave them with no hope, then we can feel better about ourselves.
If you need to be in control, try being in control of your own life and feel better about yourself through love and understanding of the 96 people who follow the rules and who your respect can help by building their self esteem to the point where they feel enabled to get off welfare. Or just set a length of time for welfare to last and then everyone has a target date to improve their lives and offer extensions for those in need like the mentally ill and Mothers of disabled children that need full time care. Oh! say what, some people actually have a valid need?
Or just kill them and solve the problem all together, then when the government finishes running our society into the ground and you loose you job and are hungry and need some food, you can be killed as well.
umm
Sep 3 2011, 1:07 am
He reminds me of groucho marx sometimes, only not as funny, but he too has a caustic toungue like groucho, but i guess the reason i bring it up is due to crohns disease, and arthritis, it is hard to keep a job due to the problems associated with it.
People judge others on the outside, not knowing or giving a damn how others are feeling on the inside, and i know this first hand from people around me all my life. You can not look at me and see inside inflammation, or pain. I choose not to talk about it cause i dont want to look like a complainer, and pot makes me feel normal till it wears off, or i run out, but what i was trying to say was that dennis gives me the opinion that if you dont work you should have no say in society, and i think that is just creepy.
Dennis. If you ever get this, and you doubt my credibility, and lots do, thus another reason i choose to be a loner, then please feel free to bring on the dogs. You know who i am, as i have written you, and told you who i am. I stand behind everything i say.
I don't know what brought up his rant, but i had to shut off the radio. I am not into war like you dennis, so if you hate me for that, again, call the coppers with all speed brother. I kid you not.
I will sue you though for doubting my honesty if you do doubt it, that i guarantee.
BIG WEED SMOKE
Sep 1 2011, 6:19 pm
porker
Sep 1 2011, 11:37 am
shroom
Sep 1 2011, 8:58 am
byrantxboy
Sep 1 2011, 7:04 am
maybe
Sep 1 2011, 12:41 am
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Flash!
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poe kat
Sep 1 2011, 12:03 am
being an ignorant hater, he just can't stand the sick,
Then one day he saw indigents scourging for food,
and just the sight of them put ole rick in a real bad mood
Cannabis tokers, his parents taught him to hate em'
Well the first thing you know ol Ricky then declared,
he'l do away with poor folks after all its only fair
Said the prison industry is where they all should be
So they loaded up the indigent’s and through them in the sea
Swamp, that is. Crocodiles , boas and pythons.
(ENDING)
Well now it’s time to say good bye to Rick and all his hate
And we would like to thank you God for locking up your gate
You're all invited back again and don't stay gone so long
To have a heapin helpin of a Florida bud packed bong
pot that is. Texas tea
Y'all come back now, y'hear?.
Hempbilly
Aug 31 2011, 9:54 pm
A ignorant fucker, to obsessed with drugs to care,
Then one day he saw indigents scourging for food,
And you would of thought they were asking for money from his own checking account.
Cannabis tokers, lazy fuckers, Florida’s forte.
Well the first thing you know ol Rick’s declared,
Kinfolk said "Rick move away from here"
Said "Florida’s is not the place you ought to be"
So they loaded up the indigent’s and they threw them in the swamp.
Swamp, that is. Crocodiles , boas and pythons.
(ENDING)
Well now it’s time to say good bye to Rick and all his crazy schemes.
And we would like to thank you folks fer kindly voting his crazy ass out.
You're all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of Florida hospitality
Hospitality that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?.
anonymous
Aug 31 2011, 8:36 pm
If you are serious I feel sorry for your corrupted soul. God may take piety on you, I on the other hand hope you get a disease that Marijuana could help and that you are in a situation that prevents you from getting it and that you suffer to death. Then you will realize what an asshole you actually are. At the end as you draw your last breath in pain you will realize the truth. And it will set you free.
You are a dickhead
Aug 31 2011, 8:27 pm
not fed nelson
Aug 31 2011, 6:12 pm
Aug 29 2011, 7:53 pm
I agree fully on the Florida law that mandates drug testing for welfare recipients, AND THE POSTER COULD CARE LESS IF OTHER MEDICATIONS ARE POISONOUS OR NOT WHICH MAKES ME REALIZE THE SICKNESS OF PROHIBITION, AS IT BREEDS A HATEFULL SPECIES OF HUMAN. IF PEOPLE WERE TO BE ON A PRESCRIPTION DRUG FROM THE FEDS, THAT WOULD BE OK THOUGH I ASSUME.
There should be a Federal law making ALL 50 states do the same..and if the states wont cooperate, their funding should be cut off. HEARTLESS PERSON THAT POSTER.
Potheads and other druggies have no business collecting welfare. WHY NOT?
Why should decent? "INSINUATING THAT A PERSON WHO MEDICATE WITH CANNABIS IS SOMEHOW INDECENT" taxpaying citizens continue to subsidize "drug addicts" i NOTICE THAT HATERS DONT LOOK AT THEIR PILL ADICTED WAYS AS ANY SORT OF AN ADDICTION, AS THAT WORD IS RESERVED FOR THOSE WHO THEY HATE AND THEY WERE TRAINED THAT RETARDED THOUGH AT CHILDHOOD, SO YOU JUST HAVE TO IGNORE THEM when they will just use the money to anesthetize themselves with dope? MARIJUANA IS NOT DOPE- PAIN PILLS IS DOPE, HEROIN IS DOPE, BUT POT IS NOT DOPE, ITS ONLY USELESS TO USELESS WARMONGERS Id bet the farm that the welfare checks arent exactly going towards feeding and clothing the children like it should. THE POSTER WOULD BET WRONG These dope addicts need to make an effort to get a job HOW? WHEN WE ARE BANNED FROM WORKING DUE TO OUR PISS instead of sponging SPONGING? IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THE POSTER AND HIS MOB GOVERNMENT IS SPONGING OFF CANNABIS USERS, AS THEY CONFISCATE PROPERTIES, STEAL MONIES, AND ALL KINDS OF CORRUPTION AND WARS off the Government and the taxpayers.
I just disagree with the method of testing that Florida utilizes: urine testing. Urine testing is largely ineffectual and lends itself too much to cheating. Anyone can cheat a urine test by drinking an abundant amount of fluids, or even using a urine sample from a drug-free acquaintance. Hair testing is the only way to go. Its far more accurate, it has the ability to detect drug abuse? ANY USE OF CANNABIS IS ABUSE TO THE LOSER ISNT IT for a much longer period of time than urine tests, and its virtually cheat-proof. THE POSTER IS RIGHT THOUGH ABOUT HAIR TESTING, NOT THAT I AM FOR IT
For this reason, the Florida Government (as well as the rest of the 49 states) should switch to hair drug tests. And if a person (welfare or not) cannot pass them, then they should simply be thrown in jail. NOT REHAB! JAIL! The Feds and the states have been slack on the dopers for far too long. Its time to toughen up. I THINK POSTER WANTS AN ALL OUT UNCIVIL WAR Drug abuse is a bad thing. TOO BAD PEOPLE DIE FROM THE ABUSE OF THE PROHIBS STOMACH ADICTED WAYS ISNT IT It kills. POT DOES NOT KILL, THE POSTER IS CLEARLY A LIAR NOW It destroys minds. AGAIN, A TOTAL LIE SAID BY A BIND IDIOT And it breeds other criminal activites such as impaired driving, gangsterism, robberies, kleptomania, sexual assaults, and murder. DUE TO THE LAWS AGAINST IT, SOME PEOPLE DO KILL
People like me that pay taxes and live clean, INDECENT, ISNT CLEAN LIVING, decent, and INCORRECT HATEFULL correct lives have a right to worry about such things and should never ever have to be crowded in by a bunch of burned-out zombies and their lack of self-control. Mandatory hair drug testing and lengthy incarceration is the way to go."...
I SAY WE AS A COUNTRY NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM THE PROHIBS. THEY HAVE RAN THE COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND WITH THEIR PROHIBITION ON LIFE AND LIES AND THEIR HATEFUL WARS, AND MANDATORY PILL TAKING OR NOTHING KNOWING FULL WELL, THAT PILLS DO KILL, AND POT DOES NOT, AND THEY ARE THE ONES DESERVING PRISON, THEM AND THE ONES WHO COVER UP THE LIES WITH ALL THE UFO BS TALK
barfaroni
Aug 31 2011, 4:55 pm
Think about it, you paranoid freeks...do you really think the cops care. They might try to entrap you...cause their are some individuals that are missing a screw and will gladly oblidge the cops.
We are protected by free speech and when I say let's legalize marijuanna...it's just an opinion.
"Fuck the police" is also protected by free speech.
barfaroni
Aug 31 2011, 4:47 pm
Shut up
Aug 31 2011, 9:46 am
You have the right to remain silent. Stop telling the cops shit they will use against you.
perspective spliff
Aug 31 2011, 1:49 am
Do we go into your police chat site to shoot the bull and dare you to break the law? I think not.
Grow some balls and show respect. Next time you want to be a hero...volunteer for a tour to afganistan so you can learn first hand what a true enemy is.
Like yourself, we are patriotic americans. It's too bad that america considers cannabis a drug instead of an herb.
As an american, I have nothing against the law officials...but I do have a beef when police use trickery to bust my fellow cannabis brother.
Hopefully, one day we can sit together in a table of cannabis brotherhood. Hence, you cops can drink a beer...and I can smoke my cannabis.
undercover cop
Aug 31 2011, 12:56 am
god
Aug 31 2011, 12:30 am
Not a cop
Aug 31 2011, 12:20 am
gstlab3
Aug 30 2011, 11:50 pm
DIVIDE AND CONQUERE AND THROW THEM INTO THE PRISONS BREAK THEIR MINDS AND SOULS AND STARVE THEM OF THEIR MOTIVATIONS AND DESIRES TO BE FREE.
YEAH THAT WILL ALLWAYS WORK WONT IT KIDS?!?!!?
I'M TELLING YOU.
WE ARE BEING SET UP LIKE BOWLING PINS.
QWERTYBIN IS AN AGENT PROVACATUERE.
BE CAREFULL "OUT THERE" MY FREEDOM FIGHTERS WAR IS HELL.
SIC SEMPTER TYRANOUS!!!!!!!!!!!
GROW YOUR OWN, FREE YOUR MIND, FREE THE PLANET!!!!!!!!!
perspective spliff
Aug 30 2011, 9:30 pm
double ha
Aug 30 2011, 9:05 pm
........
Aug 30 2011, 8:38 pm
double ha
Aug 30 2011, 7:30 pm
Unbieveable
Aug 30 2011, 6:41 pm
right on
Aug 30 2011, 5:02 pm
chilkon
Aug 30 2011, 2:50 pm
Go to http://www.DoMePlz.com/gethigh.html
Unbelievable
Aug 30 2011, 10:07 am
You are a closet Communist and your statements there are proof of it. You are the one who wishes to create a cast class system of Government testing that you yourself would fail. You are the one who desires to force people into service against their there will. YOU ARE A COMMUNIST OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.
It is now apparent you have no idea of what a communist is as you now describe your ideal Government and it is a Communist Government.
I never thought I would say it, but you are an idiot and everything you have ever claimed to stand for is a lie.
No need to respond as there is nothing more to be said. I refuse to read your Communist rants any longer and you are a complete poser and have lost all support from the TRUE FREEDOM FIGHTERS.
The rest of us will miss what we thought you were.
gstlab3
Aug 29 2011, 11:31 pm
PEOPLE ARE FED UP AND KNOW BULLSHIT WHEN THE HEAR IT AND SEE IT COMING FROM THE GOVERNMENT ON ANY LEVEL.
SO YEAH IT'S TERRIBLE AND IT IS NOT PRETTY.
REMEMBER IT IS THEY WHO DECLARED WAR ON THEIR OWN CITIZENS.
THE CREATED PROHIBITION LAWS TO CONTROL AND TO MAKE MONEY AND TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO A SUBMISSIVE AND PASSIVE LIFESTYLE.
OH YEAH THE THING IS TO CREATE A THUG CLASS.,
AN INSTANT SCAPE GOAT FOR ALL OF SOCIETIES ILLS WICH CAN BE TRACED BACK TO CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT BEHAVOUR.,
AND TO CREATE MORE CRIME AND VIOLENCE THEY COULD FEED THE PIGS WITH AND ALL THEIR LAWYER AND JUDGE ASS SERFING BUDDIES YEAH ITS ALL A BIG PLAY A GAME TO THESE DICKS IN POWER.
SPIN SPIN SPIN GOES THE POLITICO CONTROLL FREAKS AND THE NEWS CYCLE KEEPS IT GOING WITH LIES AND MORE SPIN.
WHEN COMMON SENSE IS IGNORED FOR LONG ENOUGH THE SHIT WILL START TO STINK AND IT WILL EVENTUALLY FIND THE FAN TO HIT AND WA LA INSTANT CRISIS FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO USE AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA.
MOST OF WHAT WE SEE AND HEAR IS MADE UP BULLSHIT TO CONTROLL US AND TO INTIMIDATE US INTO SUBSERVIANCE AND SERVITUDE TO THE CONTROLL FREAKS WISHES.
WAR IS HELL AND THE RIGHTIOUS WILL PREVAIL AND THE EVIL AMONGST US WILL PAY WITH THEIR LIVES AND THEIR FORTUNES.
IT HAS BEEN SO SINCE THE START OF CIVILIZATION.
GOOD LUCK FLORIDA THE ILLEGAL AND NON ENGLISH SPEAKING AMONGST YOU ARE BEING TRAINED WITH LIES AND SPIN AND THEY WILL VOTE AND DO THINGS AS THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO.
FLORIDA IS DIVIDED INTO TWO CAMPS ONE SIDE IS WEALTHY AND THE OTHER IS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AND SEPARATE FROM THE REST OF THE SOCIETY.
IT'S ALL ON PURPOSE FOR USE LATER.,
MAY BE EVEN FOR CANNON FODDER BY THE VERY GOVERNMENT THAT PERMITS THEM TO BE THERE IN FLORIDA IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IF THE GOVERNMENT WAS TRUE AND JUST THE IMMIGRANTS WOULD BE WELCOME HERE AND WOULD TRULEY WANT TO LEARN TO BE AN AMERICAN AND LEARN ENGLISH.
BUT THE TRUTH IS THEY FEEL ISOLATED AND SEPARATE AND UNWELCOME HERE AND IT IS SHAMEFULL THE ARE HERE ILLEGALLY THEY SHOULD HAVE IT BETTER BUT THE CRIME IT CREATES IS TO MUCH FOR THE GREEDY SONS OF BITCH IN GOVERNMENT TO PASS UP!!
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THAT IS THE CASE IN AMERICA??
GIVE ME YOUR POOR HUDDLED MASSES..,etc..,etc..,
YOU ALL KNOW THE PLIGHT OF THE IMMIGRANT AND IT'S NOT EASY AS IT IS BUT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG REALLY WRONG HERE.,
TERRIBLY WRONG!!!
WE ARE KEPT DIVIDED AND SEPARATE FOR NEFARRIOUS PURPOSES AND IT'S NOT JUST IN FLORIDA.
THE MELTING POT HAS BECOME A BUNCH OF SEPARATE LITTLE POTS ALL BOILING OVER ONTO THE STOVE TOP AND IT'S ALL BROKE UNEMPLOYED AND SCARED AND THE POTS ARE SMOLDERING NOW TO BE USED BY THE EVIL THAT HAS TAKEN OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TODAY.
UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.
THE NEXT BIG THING IS COMING.,
I CAN SMELL IT COMING DOWN THE PIKE AS WE SIT AND CHAT HERE OFF AND ON.
I SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL SO TO SPEAK.
GROW YOUR OWN, FREE YOUR MIND, FREE THE PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!
FLA is a asshole state anyway
Aug 29 2011, 9:44 pm
This is not 1938 and he is not going to get any with Anslinger tactics. The rest of us can read and do math and the ACLU is going to sue the shit out of Fla. Once changed by the courts they own it and FLA can never have an opinion again. Once Judges get involved it is Roe VS Wade type shit. FLA assholes will have this shoved up their ass where it should be. I can't wait.
can't toke
Aug 29 2011, 8:58 pm
perspective spliff
Aug 29 2011, 8:52 pm
Second, if Florida does not want to take care of its indegent...just come out and say so. Why put stipulations.
There is no need to put more salt in the wounds when people are down and out.
It's time to get rid of all ignorant politicans that have no clue about life, and polticial figures that are only in there for their own personal interest...instead of its citizens.
anon
Aug 29 2011, 8:49 pm
CMT33
Aug 29 2011, 8:38 pm
qwertybin
Aug 29 2011, 7:53 pm
There should be a Federal law making ALL 50 states do the same..and if the states wont cooperate, their funding should be cut off.
Potheads and other druggies have no business collecting welfare. Why should decent taxpaying citizens continue to subsidize drug addicts when they will just use the money to anesthetize themselves with dope? Id bet the farm that the welfare checks arent exactly going towards feeding and clothing the children like it should. These dope addicts need to make an effort to get a job instead of sponging off the Government and the taxpayers.
I just disagree with the method of testing that Florida utilizes: urine testing. Urine testing is largely ineffectual and lends itself too much to cheating. Anyone can cheat a urine test by drinking an abundant amount of fluids, or even using a urine sample from a drug-free acquaintance. Hair testing is the only way to go. Its far more accurate, it has the ability to detect drug abuse for a much longer period of time than urine tests, and its virtually cheat-proof.
For this reason, the Florida Government (as well as the rest of the 49 states) should switch to hair drug tests. And if a person (welfare or not) cannot pass them, then they should simply be thrown in jail. NOT REHAB! JAIL! The Feds and the states have been slack on the dopers for far too long. Its time to toughen up. Drug abuse is a bad thing. It kills. It destroys minds. And it breeds other criminal activites such as impaired driving, gangsterism, robberies, kleptomania, sexual assaults, and murder.
People like me that pay taxes and live clean, decent, and correct lives have a right to worry about such things and should never ever have to be crowded in by a bunch of burned-out zombies and their lack of self-control. Mandatory hair drug testing and lengthy incarceration is the way to go.
Think First, Vote Second
Aug 29 2011, 6:19 pm
Did they go to sowhempeverywhere.wordpress.com first? Your spot for top candidates in 2012.
scott
Aug 29 2011, 5:42 pm
Sowhwmpeverywhere.wordpress.com
Aug 29 2011, 5:35 pm
Johnny Hemp Seed
Aug 29 2011, 4:52 pm
toker2
Aug 28 2011, 10:15 pm
20 people flunked
20 people got a job OR just refused to take test
so if we figure 30 people who flunked or refused than they would have to be getting at least 1000.oo a month to see any kind of savings from this testing crap
if all 40 were actually flunked or refused and none of them had actually gotten jobs than at least 720.00 each a month to see any kind savings
i know a couple families of 3 or 4 people in each family here in my state on welfare and they get between 300-450 a month so exactly where is the savings going to come from???
Anonymous
Aug 28 2011, 12:40 am
That is why you are a redneck fucktard and have no math skills or common sense.
Out of 1000 people 2% FAILed AND 2% withdrew for unspecified reasons. So 20 people failed and 20 people withdrew, the 20 people that withdrew could have moved out of fuckville and or found work.
So 960 people passed and had to be reimburst for the test after having to pay out $30 they didn't have in the first place as they are poor. This caused them hardship to some extent for no reason as no money is saved. DO YOU UNDERSTAND NO MONEY WAS SAVED AND YOUR DUMB FUCK GOVERNOR MADE THE WHOLE THING UP TO START WITH. THERE ARE NO REPORTS JUST MADE UP SHIT BECAUSE HE CAN'T READ EITHER.
So get your head out of your ass and think for a change, the more you do it the less it hurts.
You are just a fucktard bully like the rest of the inbred assholes around you.
ok retards...
Aug 27 2011, 9:22 pm
Anonymous
Aug 27 2011, 6:25 pm
anonymous
Aug 27 2011, 6:16 pm
hooligan
Aug 27 2011, 4:58 pm
wheresurhead
Aug 27 2011, 4:21 pm
anonymous
Aug 27 2011, 4:21 pm
Simple math.
headache
Aug 27 2011, 4:16 pm
when it comes to weed some of those people might be growing their own and not even spending cash on it.
if it's really only about what welfare cash is spent on than why not take away their cig's and alcohol too?
niggas
Aug 27 2011, 2:50 pm
anonymous
Aug 27 2011, 2:11 pm
pothead
Aug 27 2011, 1:33 pm
toker
Aug 27 2011, 1:26 pm
if you believe in personal freedoms than you can not believe that anyone should be drug tested-the only exceptions i can see it being ok to drugtest folks would be if you work with someone that is actually putting peoples safety at risk while at work, or driving, but it shouldn't be a given that everyone gets tested, only if someone is apparently high while driving and or working, and could actually cause someone else to be hurt because of it, which also means that they would need to have a better test for thc since it stays in your system for so long after partaking. i work for a living and partake everyday after work, but i do not agree with drug testing people on welfare just because i work and may get randomed at anytime.
unless it becomes apparent that someone is high at work and even then if they are not doing some type of work that would endanger other people around them then they also should not be tested.
anonymous
Aug 27 2011, 10:13 am
anonymous
Aug 27 2011, 10:12 am
Place your gun in a container of gear oil with some bullets in a zip lock bag and bury it in your yard. When you need it dig it up. And you will need it.
umm
Aug 27 2011, 4:45 am
umm
Aug 27 2011, 3:05 am
gstlab those are terrible thoughts
gstlab3
Aug 27 2011, 12:20 am
IF YOU ARE DYING AND HAVE SOME STRENGTH LEFT IN YOU PLEASE TRY TO TAKE SOME OF THESE SONS OF A BITCH WITH YOU BEFORE YOU GO!!!!
FREEDOMS ARE DYING TOO!!!!!
WHY LET IT DIE WITHOUT A FIGHT???
gstlab3
Aug 27 2011, 12:17 am
FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THAT FEARS YOUR RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF!!
FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR REALLY DANGEROUS DRUGS WICH ARE BASICALLY UNTESTED AND FOR THOSE SAME DEADLY POISONS TO BE FREELY MARKETED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE DRUGS ALL COMING OUT OF THE SAME PLACE THE FDA!!!!!!
WHO'S THE BIGGER THREAT?????
A GOVERNMENT THAT BOWS TO BIG BANKING AND CORPORATE MONEY OR A PEOPLE WHO SEEK THE TRUTH AND FREEDOMS???
THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS MORE BLOOD ON ITS HANDS FROM PRESCRIPTION PAIN PILL DOCTORS AND CLINICS THAN ILLEGAL DRUGS INCLUDING ALL OF THE MADNESS OF THE COCAINE GANG BANGER VIOLENCE!!!!!
SCREW THESE ASSHOLES IN FLORIDAS GOVERNMENT.
HIRE A MOBSTER HIT MAN TO DO YOUR ELECTING FOR YOU NEXT TIME!!!!
JUST AS SIMPLE AS PIE!!!!
BY WAY OF SELECTIVE AND CAREFULLY PLANNED POLITICAL ELIMINATION OF REAL CRIMINALS IN GOVERNMENT AND IN THE ELIMINATION OF CERTAIN SECTIONS AND PERSONS OF THE MILITARIZED POLICE FORCES.
YOU HAVE TO PLAY HARD BALL WITH CRIMINAL GANGS AND THUGS!! IT'S WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND JUST LIKE THE TERRORISTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST THEY UNDERSTAND COMPLETE AND TOTAL POWER AND DEATH AND NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!!
SIC SEMPTER TYRANOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
GROW YOUR OWN, FREE YOUR MIND, FREE THE PLANET!!!!!!!!
cigs
Aug 26 2011, 9:22 pm
cigs
Aug 26 2011, 9:15 pm
Alabama Kush
Aug 26 2011, 8:44 pm
tom jones
Aug 26 2011, 7:58 pm
anonymous
Aug 26 2011, 7:07 pm
umm
Aug 26 2011, 5:46 pm
and what evidence do you have that i am wrong?
umm
Aug 26 2011, 5:44 pm
The so-called space ships are just pot seeds.
and it is all a cover, and at our expense as we are not to be recognized
get a clue
umm
Aug 26 2011, 5:40 pm
when prohibs refuse to recognize us to the point of dehumanizing us to the point of calling us aliens then yes it is time for a discussion on the subject fellow alien.
stinkybeef
Aug 26 2011, 5:10 pm
K2 radio
Aug 26 2011, 3:13 pm
umm
Aug 26 2011, 2:26 pm
stupid world we live in isnt it
umm
Aug 26 2011, 11:16 am
it does have the ability to make you cough up blood and make you feel sleepy, not high and angry that you blew 25.00 listening to a kid peddling poison.
only danger while driving on the poison would be that you may fall asleep and kill someone including yourself.
i stress the word sleep.
which has nothing to do with being high.
k2 goes straight to your cb1 receptors, and doesn't even touch cb2.
whoever thought of k2 is an idiot, cause it has absolutely no benefit whatsoever, and i should sue for a refund and lung damage, and for false advertising, cause coughing up blood and feeling irritable, and sleepy wasn't what i expected i expected to feel high like the liars promised, except it did say on the package not to be smoked, but it is to be used as an incense. if you don't smoke it though, you will not feel even sleepy at all.
a complete rip off
go away k2 poison peddler, i know what sell it to prohibs, cause they don't like to get "high" either you faker
Stay Healthy
Aug 26 2011, 9:25 am
Herb makes me see more clearly and makes it more fun to type on line as my mind wonders down the corridors of creativity.
If I want to get stupid and have a car wreak I will order K2, until then I will stick to Herb and keep control of my faculties and the dents out of my car.
Not that I drive while using herb, but K2 just sounds a little dangerous and there are no Ingredients listed so it is just huffing a mystery substance.
truth man
Aug 26 2011, 9:24 am
umm
Aug 26 2011, 3:00 am
oldsagesmoker
Aug 26 2011, 12:29 am
I've been buying from them ever since January...that is when I can make out the keys on my laptop good enough to place an order. Get dazed!
Bluesmoke
Aug 26 2011, 12:25 am
Rick Scott would gladly put everyone who disagrees with him in prison. His assumption is that welfare recipients are drug users is based on arrogance and a view of these individuals as basically inferior. He is nothing more than a deceitful and arrogant millionaire who, along with the rest of the tea baggers, is more interested in a specific status quo, rather than an open minded dialogue.
In American politics, more and more, ignorance is becoming bliss for those in power. Not THEIR ignorance, the ignorance of citizens. WAKE UP America! Millionaires, billionaires, and criminals in power is NOT a recipe for long term success of a democracy!!
anonymous
Aug 25 2011, 11:40 pm
This troubles me as my friends worked and paid taxes until they were laid off and as both are older they are not able to find jobs. Did I mention they both used to work at good jobs and were generous and kind.
Life is tough and the government is making it worse. What does congress care they still get paid and have great insurance, it is we the people who suffer.
Good luck I hope things get better for you.
cigs
Aug 25 2011, 11:17 pm
WTF
Aug 25 2011, 6:07 pm
The Dad wants the kid to eat so he robs a store and kills a clerk over $20 to buy a sandwich for the kid and know the other guys family is on welfare as Dad is dead. Then as there is now more crime extra money is spent on cops and security systems. The first guy cleans up and passes the UA and now 2 families are on welfare and more cops are being paid.
That will save a lot of money in Bizzaro land. If you agree with this shit you are retarded.
bad_aron
Aug 25 2011, 5:52 pm
Then test for all drugs,,alcohol,,prescriptions,,the works.
Just because it was prescribed doesn't change the fact that your getting high,,just that your more likely to be high on the job ( which it seems Florida's Gov is).
kathy
Aug 25 2011, 5:29 pm
lazy bum
Aug 25 2011, 4:54 pm
gstlab3
Aug 25 2011, 4:23 pm
IT IS ENTIRELY ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE THINKING AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT THE DRUGS AND THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PROGRAMS IT OFFERS TO THE CITIZENS.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HELPING PEOPLE BUT KEEPING THEM IN LINE WITH THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM AND MAKING MONEY AND KILLING OFF POOR PEOPLE AS FAST AS THEY CAN.
I HAVE DELT WITH FREE CLINICS AND THEY HAVE MISSED TWO ABSCESSED TEETH ONE CASE OF LUNG DISEASE AND ONE MAJOR CASE OF CANCER.
ALL OF WICH WERE PUT OFF TO ME OVER REACTING AND SEEKING DRUGS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER A LOT YOUNGER!!!!
LIKE TWENTY YEARS AGO YOUNGER!!!!
EVERY TIME I ENDED UP IN PAIN AND BORROWING THE MONEY TO PAY A REAL DOCTOR AND FOUND THAT THE MONEY YOU HAVE DOES MATTER TO THESE SONS OF BITCH.
I WAS SPARED MY LIFE BECAUSE I WENT TO A DOCTOR WHO WAS MOTIVATED BY PROFITS AND HIS OATH TO HELP AND HEAL AND TO DO NO HARM UNLIKE THE FREE CLINICS AND THE WELLFARE CLINICS THAT HAVE A MISSION TO KILL OFF THE POOR AS FAST AS THEY CAN BY IGNORING MAJOR WARNING SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS IN THE PEOPLE THEY quote., "TREAT."
IT SHOWS THE PEOPLE THAT CAN STILL THINK FOR THEMSELVES LIKE A FEW OF US IN HERE AT THE HIGH TIMES COMMENT PAGES THAT THE GOVERNMENT REALLY FEARS PEOPLE WHO CAN TREAT AND MEDICATE THEMSELVES AND WHO CAN THINK FOR THEMSELVES ABOVE ALL ELSE.
IF THE PEOPLE CAN THINK OUTSIDE THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLS AND THE MATRIX AND THE EVIL GRID OF 24/7/365 TELEVISION AND THE NON STOP BIG PHARMA DRUG ADDS THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE SCREWED AND WOULD LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY.,
WHEN YOU PEOPLE SMOKE SOME MARIJUANA OR GET AN INSANELY GOOD STREET DEAL ON THOSE OPIATE PRESCRIPTION PAIN KILLERS "THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY WORK FOR SEVERE PAIN.,"
AT LESS THAN HALF THE COST OF THOSE GOVERNMENT FDA SANCTIONED VISITS TO A HIGH PRICED PAIN SPECIALIST OR OTHER PILL PRESCRIBING DOCTOR YOU TAKE FROM THE MOUTH OF GOVERNMENT LAKIES AND THEIR FRIENDS IN BIG PHARMA!!!!!!!!
SHIT MAN.,
THE COSTS THESE DAYS!!! AND OR LACK OF AVAILABILITY OF ANY INSURRANCE THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO ENDURE ANOTHER HUGE ASS PREMIUM DUE EACH MONTH!!!!
WTF?!?!?!?
SO YEAH POOR PEOPLE ARE SMART AND PAY LESS FOR MEDICATION AND STILL HUSTLE THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS FOR ALL ITS WORTH.
THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN CREDIT.,
THEY'RE PAYING LESS FOR LIVING AND THEIR HEALTH CARE THAN THE REST OF US!!!
I SAW THIS REPLAY ONCE ON THE NOW FAMOUS OPRAH WHINFREY SHOW.,
"THE CAUSE OF MORE DIVORCES THAN DONIHUE!!!!
AN ENTIRE FAMILY WAS FEATURED THAT WAS SPENDING LESS ON HERION TO TREAT CHRONIC PAIN AND SUBSEQUENT ADDICTIONS THAN THEY WERE WHEN THEY HAD INSURRANCE AND WENT TO THE DOCTORS AND YEAH MAN IT WAS CHEAPER THAN THE METHADONE CLINIC TO TREAT THEIR ADDICTION ONCE THEIR DOCTORS CUT THEM OFF!!!!
SO YEAH MAN.,
FUCK FLORIDA AND THE NEW WELLFARE LAW.
THE BIG SECRETE IS YOU DO NOT NEED THE GOVERNMENT.
WE CAN AND ALLWAYS HAVE FENDED FOR OURSELVES WITHOUT COMMUNISTS AND BIG BROTHER TRYING TO CONTROLL AND KILL US WITH OVERLY HIGH PRICED AND FAKE DRUGS FROM TEST TUBES.
BUY ORGANIC NATURAL DRUGS INCLUDING YOUR FAVORITE MARIJUANA TO TREAT YOURSELVES FOR WHATEVER IT HELPS YOU WITH AND THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!!
THINKING.,
THE BIGGEST THREAT TO COMMUNISM AND THE BIG BROTHER GOVERNMENT IN WASHINGTON D.C.!!!!
PAIN WILL DRIVE A PERSON TO DO CRAZY SHIT AND SO DOES BEING SICK AND KNOWING THAT THE MEDICINES ARE JUST OUT OF REACH!!
BECAUSE YOU ARE POOR AND OR SICK OR BOTH OR JUST UNLUCKY NOT TO HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH JOB TO PAY OFF THESE DOCTORS TO GET YOUR FIX OR A CURE YOU ARE MARKED FOR EXTERMINATION AND A SHORTENED LIFE.
IT'S THE TATTERED CONSTITUTION AND THE FAILED "ON PURPOSE" ECONOMY PEOPLE!!!!
IT'S OUR COMMUNIST RUN GOVERNMENT THAT HAS RUINED EVERYTHING WITH GREED AND SHORTSIGHTED BULLSHIT AND ALL OUT LIES!!!!!!
ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN LEFT CAN SEE THE REASONS FOR THE MESS WE'RE IN!!!!
DRUGS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.,
LACK OF SOUND PUBLIC EDUCATION AND AN ILLEGAL TREASONOUS BIG COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT IS.
GROW YOUR OWN, FREE YOUR MIND, FREE THE PLANET!!!!!!!!!
FUCK FLORIDAS GOVERNOR!!!!!!!!
Aj
Aug 25 2011, 4:21 pm
joe somebody
Aug 25 2011, 3:27 pm
someone
Aug 25 2011, 3:06 pm
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Aug 25 2011, 3:05 pm
The state of Florida doesn't give a shit about babies in welfare households - the law would never have passed if those racist assholes didn't assume that most welfare recipients are drug users.
This program will end up costing the state millions because the state will have to pay back thousands of drug test fees that they didn't count on because they probably thought half the people being tested would fail.
From Cali
Aug 25 2011, 3:04 pm
reality 88
Aug 25 2011, 3:04 pm
rocktonpoden@aol.com
Aug 25 2011, 3:00 pm
WHAT IF
Aug 25 2011, 2:57 pm
kansas
Aug 25 2011, 2:56 pm
From Florida
Aug 25 2011, 2:33 pm
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