The Democratic and Republican Conventions are over and after long, careful consideration, I have decided that anybody who truly wants to see marijuana legalized nationwide must vote for Hillary Clinton to become President of the United States.
Hold on there, don’t go jumping to the comments section yet to put me on blast for supporting a lying, warmongering, fracking, corrupt puppet of the One Percent. I’ve already beat you to it. I’ve probably written 20,000 words on how much I despise Hillary Clinton as a candidate. I was one of the loudest “Bernie Bros” out there and I, too, am furious about the fixed primary system revealed by WikiLeaks DNC email hack.
So, yeah, you could cast a feel-good vote for Johnson or Stein because they agree with you on legalizing marijuana, but to what end? They’ll have zero power over legalization policy and you’ll be doing nothing to stop the candidate who would dismantle legalization, Donald Trump. And if Johnson or Stein were actually successful enough to win a state’s Electoral Votes, it increases the chances nobody gets to 270, which kicks in the 12th Amendment election tiebreakers than guarantee Donald Trump becomes president.
I know, I know, you hate the two-party system, the corrupt oligarchy that offers us two puppets of the wealthy, the choice of Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich. But throwing the election to Donald Trump by denying Hillary Clinton the votes she needs to beat him is not the way to end the duopoly. If you really want to end Republican/Democratic dominance, you can’t just change the players, you’ve got to change the game, and that will require about twenty years of ballot initiatives and constitutional amendments, not a symbolic protest vote every four years.
You might be harboring the feeling that there’s really no difference between Clinton and Trump. If that’s really true, then what difference does it make which of them you vote for? Given the choice of two lying, corrupt multimillionaires, shouldn’t we at least pick the one whose convention audience looks more like America and who doesn’t demean women, gays, immigrants, the disabled, and religious minorities? Perhaps pick the one who has actually served as an elected official at any level?
Maybe you’re even thinking about voting for Trump, just because you hate Hillary Clinton that much or you have the delusion that he “alone” is going to “make America great again.” If so, I think you’re not putting a lot of thought into just how a Trump Administration would impact marijuana legalization.
Consider that a President Trump wouldn’t just be on your TV making “fantastic” speeches, “believe me.” He would be appointing the next Attorney General, the nation’s top cop, and the rumors are that it will be New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. Do you need a refresher on exactly how shitty Christie would be for legalization? On the campaign trail, he told us to smoke up while we can in Colorado, because he would be shutting it all down and enforcing federal drug laws.
President Trump would also appoint the US Attorneys who decide whether to conduct raids on marijuana businesses and press charges against patients and growers. We have US Attorneys still today that prosecuted the so-called Kettle Falls Five, patients who were medically-legal in Washington State where recreational marijuana is legal, even under President Obama and with a memo from the Attorney General to knock that shit off. You think that gets better under Trump’s US Attorneys?
It goes even deeper than that. A President Trump would be appointing heads of EPA who decide which pesticides are approved for cannabis, heads of financial agencies that decide whether marijuana businesses are legit, heads of the IRS that decide whether to audit marijuana businesses and non-profits, and the head of the ONDCP and every other federal agency that would make a regulatory decision regarding cannabis. Imagine Chris Christie recommending Kevin Sabet as the nation’s Drug Czar.
Then there’s the biggest appointments: The Supreme Court. Right now the balance is four conservatives (Chief Justice Roberts, Justices Thomas, Alito, & Kennedy) and four liberals (Justices Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Kagan, & Breyer). A President Trump adds at least one more conservative and Justices Ginsburg, Kennedy, and Breyer are over 80 or will be in Trump’s term. By 2020, Donald Trump could seat a 7-2 conservative majority that would last for 20 years. Do you want that court hearing the next lawsuit from some red state that wants to overturn another state’s legalization law? Or deciding whether there is a First Amendment right to use cannabis religiously?
Fine, fine, you might think, that’s all reasonable, but I just can’t vote for someone like Hillary who… fill in the blank. I feel you. You may even live in a non-swing state (guaranteed, like California, to go for Hillary or, like Texas, to go for Trump) and feel you can vote your conscience.
But consider what Hillary Clinton as president would be like if she only squeaks into office with an Electoral College victory, but lacks a popular vote majority (like her husband won the presidency in 1992 with just 43 percent of the vote, thanks to Ross Perot.) Or worse, if she wins the Electoral College but Trump gets more popular votes? She will tack more to the center than she already does naturally and she’ll be hesitant to champion any controversial issues like marijuana.
F_@k you. She’s been a sh1t show when it comes to cannabis. And to top it off, her VP is Kaine! Yes, Trump and Pence are sh!t too for cannabis. They all suck and are going to continue the same crap that’s been flung at us for decades.
I recall hearing this same spiel the last two elections, that Obama would help change cannabis legislation. That sure as 5uck didn’t work, in fact, he frequently states he’s against it. And, I believe he claimed being pretty in favor of it before becoming president in his first term. So, what do you think Clinton will do? She’ll get elected, and then spray a wet fart in the face of cannabis supporters; just like Obama did.
I’m tired of this s4it every election. If people want Trump; fine give them him. At this point the US deserves a tiny-handed, orangified, d|℃kless douchebag.
So, rationalize it all you want, but don’t blame people that pick third party if you don’t get the person you want. It’s what happens when we keep getting bowls and bowls of the same bs. Two parties that suck, and will continue to suck.
This is a pretty compelling argument – no flames here! I also like the argument you made elsewhere about a FEMA run by Clinton vs. a FEMA led by Trump! I will not presume to tell anyone else how to vote. I’m voting for the Democratic Party platform, and intend to keep pushing a Clinton administration to follow it.
She or anyone else is going to have a Hella time getting my guns or ammo
What a stupid, empty threat. I’m sure a standoff with you wouldn’t be a challenge if they even gave a shit about taking away your “guns or ammo”.
Please take this topic more seriously than making flagrant attempts of machismo. It belittles the discussion.
She does not want your guns and ammo. Nobody does.
What some of us want is for fewer lunatics spraying bullets in public places.
Russ, Jay is right. And it is obvious that you have not been following Hillary, Obama or the democratic party very closely.
>>>”Given the choice of two lying, corrupt multimillionaires, shouldn’t we at least pick the one whose convention audience looks more like America and who doesn’t demean women, gays, immigrants, the disabled, and religious minorities?
So if you can fool/buy enough ‘correctly dressed’ supporters to fill a camera lens, that’s the proof of a good candidate? Sorry. but Russ #1 made incredibly good arguments for several months. – And now Russ #2 has had an “epiphany,” performed a 180 and expects everyone else to follow in this contortionist act.
That’s not going to happen. It just looks like you’ve given in to the campaign of fear you have been railing against for so long.
Here’s my view. – Clinton has already “won” the election. It doesn’t make any difference who anyone votes for now. – If you could first dismantle the election-stealing apparatus, it might be possible, but that’s not going to happen in three months.
So, here’s a “Radical” idea. – Forget the presidential election. Focus on what really matters now. Passing California’s Prop 64. There is zero reservoir of trust for either Trump or Johnson, so there’s no point trying to nail either one down on a “position.” – The only thing we know for sure about them is they are both representatives and members of the one-percent.
We now need to return to doing what marijuana reformers do. – Changing the law – period. For marijuana reformers, the election is now about successfully legalizing in California, and to a lesser degree, the legalization in the other states. – Arguing over the candidates is pointless and a possibly fatal distraction.
Really, you think the blacks, gays, Latinos, Sikhs, Muslims, Asians, Natives, and disabled in the DNC audience were all planted? And the homogeneous whiteness of the RNC crowd was just a fluke?
No, I think that those people have been fed a narrative their whole lives that says they are not allowed to be conservative or hold conservative values, and that the democrats are their only savior.
White paternalism is still racism.
An AUMA shill is no better the Hil-LIAR-y voter… VOTE NO on AUMA.
Ohh…so when the current sitting president said he would leave states Medical Marijuana alone…then promptly raids them (here in CA anyways)…how is it again that Hillary is gonna make things better?
My sentiments exactly. It’s more of the same.
Hillary will be appointing the bureaucrats, prosecutors, judges, and Justices who will decide the cases and regulations at the federal level concerning cannabis.
Or Trump will.
BTW, in the time Obama has been in office, we’ve legalized four states, medicalized another 13, decriminalized another 9, and gotten CBD only in 16 Southern and Midwestern states. Obama’s DoJ could have thrown all sorts of monkey wrenches into that, and didn’t.
Sometimes it’s what a president *doesn’t* do that’s important.
Yea, president Obama also hasn’t united the people of this country. I didn’t vote for him but I had high hopes that he would bring this country together. Instead, he has done and is doing the opposite. An inactive president is a bad deal. Maybe we will learn that a community organizer isn’t qualified to be president.
On the contrary, he has been extremely active in DIVIDING this country!
OMG, Russ–the 1/2 white president has acted 100% white by busting/arresting and prosecuting more than 10 times the number of medicinal patients of gwbush alone and the feds have been on 3 month rampage (over 40 raids) on A20 and A64 (the fake legalization you told people to support) grows in Pueblo alone…what he doesn’t do is admit he has caused harms to millions of Americans and their families….
Do you think Obama is king?
If Obama opens his mouth, it is only for lying.
Feel good vote? Get outta here man. We are better than that. Shes a criminal and you probably feel criminal for smoking. You have that defeatist attitude. No worries. I talk to god and am assured that the law of the universe is greater than man’s. Everything is going to be alright. We the people want better for ourselves and our children. We will make it happen with or with out you. I should write for high times (not sorry).
I agree. You should write for High Times!
damn they deleted it before I could read it
Jill Stein is a win,win, and if you don’t think she can then you havent got your finger on the world wide pulse,of the revolution, we need change, and we need it now ! in order for the world to survive.
Please, describe the scenario by which Jill Stein amasses 270 Electoral College votes.
A) Enough people man up and get her past the 15% threshold
B) Green Party funded and in debates next cycle
C) Stein 2020!
Same case can be made for the Libertarians. We need more voices in the debates!
Sorry to piss in your bongwater —
Jill Stein Is Anti-Science, Bad for the Environment, and Deserves Her Anti-Vax Label
I know Jill Stein personally, and that “article” is utter garbage. In fact, it is a shitty blog by a no name nobody. Try again troll.
Wanting more oversight and QC for vaccines which billions receive is not a bad thing.
She is a medical doctor is in no way”anti-science” or “anti-vacc” and the writer of that article is, like yourself, a Hillary shill.
BTW I dont smoke pot, so GFY.
for you to still believe ‘we the people’ have ANY say in the elections shows how out of touch you are. let me describe the way it’s been done for decades — CHEATING or Rigging by the 2 parties, so you are right–there is no way for Jill Stein to get 270 electoral votes. But if the majority voted 3rd party…perhaps THAT would stir up some long overdue conversations on our ‘election’ system as a whole…..the only thing we the people can have hope for.
Legal weed is not why I vote in a federal election. Fuck high times for taking advantage of pot smokers to further just another agenda. Our 1st and 2nd amendments might get my attention.
Democratic convention doesn’t look like liberal “lilly white” Portland, Oregon and that’s where you have resided for many years despite your praises of multiculturalism. Peter Thiel and Catlynn Jenner are gay/transgender and spoke at the Republican Convention and praised Donald Trump. Plenty of female speakers praised Trump too. I love all these “what if” scenarios. Dubya appointed Chief Justice Roberts and he upheld Obamacare. Dwight Eisenhower appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren and his court was one of the most liberal ever! Both Hillary and Trump made clear they support medical marijuana so there’s not going to be the mass raids you envision, especially in swing state Colorado. “First Amendment right to use cannabis religiously” – a republican judge is more likely to support this.
Thank you LibertyAnnie!
You’re so right all four so called liberal justices voted to keep pot illegal and Scalia the sellout sided with them -nice to know there are informed people out there 🙂
except the feds are here in Colorado raiding more (A20 and A64) then ever once 2016 came round…first it was CA and then WA and now CO….
I find it humorous that the title contains ‘(sorry)’. I’m also sorry for all the disenchanted Bernie supporters who will be voting for this felon.
“….disenchanted” (brain-dead) “Bernie supporters….”
I call them the staring into their Poke-Mon phone, apathetic living off the fat of their parents backs generation.
Trump has said in his mussolini-like way, buffoonishly, that the War on Drugs is a “Joke.” Which is a lot closer to understanding the problem than anything Big Nurse Hitler-Hillary has ever said about the issue. Unless you’ve got hard evidence for the likelihood of Christie being made Attorney General, I’d say stick with the cannon you know to be loose rather than the fascist war-monger–Mussolini over Hitler any day.
Christie isn’t blowing Trump for no reason! Trump has said what you quoted decades ago. His latest stance on legalization is: that he is definitely for medical but as far as recreational goes he’s not sure yet. He has to see the reports coming out of Colorado, but so far what he is seeing is not good! (Says him) That said plus Christie as Attourney General and it’s a pretty good chance we will see the return of full on prohabition again! Christie has said if he becomes president, he will shut down all legal marijuana. So, in the position to be able to do so, I’m sure he certainly will.
This entire article was poorly timed.
Really makes HT look foolish, biased… not really interested in legalization, but interested in pushing the “Clinton or else” narrative.
Thank you for the link. You are awesome! Its unfortunate that legalization movement consists of so many drones that don’t know how to lead and think for themselves.
Russ is known for selling out…long history of it…especially MMJ.
Of course these Republican dingbats are just crazy enough to try “full on prohibition”–which would mean WAR, upon the recognized consensus of the American people, by the central powers of their own government–which Obama (and Hillary) are too sane, and too chickenshit, even to contemplate: Maybe we should let them try it. It would not be a war that the Forces of Darkness are at all likely to win. And, just maybe, it would result in things that all us Humanist Liberals would vote for if we could: the Secession of the Western States (Hail Cascadia!), the Dissolution of the CIA and the DEA, and the end of the Corporate-Prison Empire. As Little Bush used to say, “Bring it on!”
I’ve got an idea in November in California. When legalizing marijuana is on the ballot in again, can you get out there and vote instead of staying home and getting high? Can you do that? Last time you didn’t, idiots!
why? So the Diebold machines will just go “click” a little while later?
Are you fooking kidding me?
After all the graft and corruption that has been exposed by the leaks?
DWS gone, it has been proven they control the media:
“JULIAN ASSANGE: The other top emails, well, as I said, I think this instruction by Luis Miranda, the head of communications, to go out and covertly spread anti-Bernie Sanders propaganda is a clear instruction combined with a chain of command. It’s not simply expressing a sentiment. It is expressing an instruction within the DNC to subvert the Bernie Sanders campaign.
Then there’s a lot of emails about the close relationship between the DNC and the media—The Washington Post involved in a co-fundraising party, an off-list co-fundraising for the DNC, calling up MSNBC during the middle of a program and saying, “Pull that segment now,” Debbie Wasserman Schultz calling up the president of MSNBC in order to discipline Morning Joe, etc. That’s, you know, of course, something that we’ve all suspected happens, but this is concrete proof of it.”
Vote for a fascist……bcuzzzz leeegal weed!!
Just smoke the shit, no one cares. It will be legal soon enough.
Thank you. I appreciate your comments!
I’ve felt this exact same way for about a month or so now. I’m not a Hillary fan, but there’s no way in hell I’d vote for Trump. A politician with zero experience, a short temper, and who can’t even pretend to have ethics is not someone I want to see in office. Hillary may maintain the status quo, but I’d rather have 4 more years of slightly progressive than 4 years of a trigger-happy, racist, conceited prick. She’s safe and boring. He’s scary as shit and a fearmongering ass. I know when I go to church I walk out if the preacher’s sermon is all fire and brimstone, but I stay when I hear words of hope and motivation to do better. There’s a reason for this. People who want to incite fear in others have an agenda while those who speak words of actual wisdom are more likely to be on my level. Trump is not our only hope and he alone won’t do a damn thing for this country. I can’t wait to see Hillary win just so I can say Trump was fired. It’s going to be a great day.
Russ is right as usual, hold your nose and vote for Hillary. Then be active towards working with our government to legalize fully.
>You must vote for Hillary
Trump says he will leave legalization up to the states.
today he says that tomorrow it will be different. Hell he was caught lying four times today
I’ll start with recommending that you reread an article that you wrote: http://hightimes.com/culture/radical-rant-bernie-sanders-vs-hillary-clinton-on-marijuana/
2nd, Trump has said that he favors marijuana for medical use given that it has been proven effective.
3rd, the republican platform is grounded in states rights. This is a Trump administration, not a Christie administration.
and 4th, Have you lost your mind? Hillary lies practically everytime she opens her mouth. Benghazi? Lied to everyone. Unguarded Email Server? Oh so innocent, she did it out of convenience? Bull shit. She did it to control public access to her records and to keep this information for her personal benefit. She mishandled top secret information and risked the lives of that gather that information. It isn’t worth it, besides, Hillary isn’t pro-legalization. She would only do it to exert more control and influence of the people..which is exactly what socialism does.
We are Freedom Fighters. And I say we because there is no one that has sacrificed and done more for this movement then myself. I’m in it for the long haul but I’m not gonna sacrifice my freedom or the security of our country for it. Are you?
Trump got caught lying five times today.
about national security? dead Americans? TTP?
But there are a lot of unanswer questions, and we should wait and see how CO and WA fair, and I have never tryed marijuana and I’m not going to start now. THIS REALITY SANDWICH tastes sooooo bad.
I have a novel idea. Don’t vote for The Donald or The Hillary. Don’t vote at all. Smoke all the pot you want and declare it legal in your own space. Make it a social issue and not a political issue. When you vote, you give your consent to be governed, you perform an act of aggression against your friends, family, neighbors and humanity, and you give legitimacy to the system as well as the sociopath you vote for. Are you really prepared to continue the death and destruction around the world so there might be some possibility that the government will “allow” you to smoke weed? Is the death of others tolerable so that you may avoid a trivial fine for possession if you happen to be caught with some weed?
If her mouth is open she is Lying…..You have NO IDEA what she will do…
This article is exactly the pain I feel in this upcoming election. In my 47 years, and since I have cared about politics which is about the last twenty years I have never felt less happy about either choice. We get to pick between a lying, one percenter marijuana prohibitionist, or the other Candidate, a lying, one percenter marijuana prohibitionist. Disgusting. Whoever wins, we all lose.
Sorry is the word…
Thank you smart people voting for Donald trump!! If you vote for Hillary you can kiss your gun rights goodbye. legal marijuanna is awesome but it’s not gonna be great when people start breaking into your house to steal your weed and not having a gun to defend yourself and your crop. Donald trump is for states rights. If the American people want it he’s not going to stand in the way. There is absolutely no reason to vote for that nasty b****
Legal is a joke in WA OR CO. Call it what it really is -regulated to death and no good. Anybody that votes for Hillary the crook is dum dee dumm dum -Russ been smokin’ too much of da herb
over 5 million were arrested for pot on the civil libertarian nightmare Bill Clintons watch
and how many million during oBOMBya (over 8 million) and continued with Hil-LIAR-y?
I will never, ever vote for the Hillabeast. Yet the Donald is a loose cannon and has that dumb ass Christie in the wings, Pense is an Indiana back woods ultra conservative asshat. So that leaves Johnson and whoever that Green women is? Good God on horseback who do I vote for? I’ve used this wonderful plant for over 45 years and it’s not been even close to legal except for the last few years in a few places. So I can get along a bit longer, black market, home grow, or medical cannabis I’m going to keep on keeping on no matter what lame ass is President. This would all be so much better if people would not try and tell everyone else how they think other people should live.
Txt directly mates
the only thing to fear is fear itself…and that goes for everyone fear mongering the win of either of the 2 least liked ‘options’ in the 2 party system….
Didn’t know the readers of High Times were such morons. Russ you are a noble man, and you simply get it.
Well if you actually understood how the election system works, you would know that third party vote are not “feel good votes”. The goal is to take just enough electoral votes so clinton and trump dont get 270. Then, it gets thrown to the house of representatives where he has a much bigger chance of being chosen